Wake Up, America! Wake Up! PLEASE!!

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Let's hear what the brain dead has to say about Mr. Paul Manafort's latest legal maneuvering!

Washington (CNN)Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has agreed to cooperate with the Justice Department, including in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
Manafort pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy against the US and one count of conspiracy to obstruct justice due to attempts to tamper with witnesses, according to a court filing Friday.
Prosecutor Andrew Weissmann told the judge Manafort's plea agreement is a "cooperation agreement," and other charges will be dropped at sentencing at "or at the agreement of successful cooperation."
Manafort had proffered information to the government already, Weissmann said in a federal court in a Washington, DC.
The scope of the cooperation was not immediately clear. While President Donald Trump is not mentioned in Friday's filing, nor is Manafort's role in his campaign, the news of the cooperation comes as the President continued to lambast the Mueller investigation on Twitter this week.

In a statement to CNN after the news of Manafort's cooperation, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said, "This had absolutely nothing to do with the President or his victorious 2016 Presidential campaign. It is totally unrelated."
Wearing a purple tie beneath his dark suit, Manafort looked glum as the hearing unfolded, standing next to his attorney, Richard Westling, with a court security officer standing immediately behind him. Manafort answered the judge's questions about himself, his plea and rights he will waive, including his right to a trial.
"I do," he said repeatedly, waiving each right.
Westling agreed in court that the mistried counts in Virginia will be dropped with Manafort's admission of guilt to all his allegations. In DC, his seven criminal counts are rewritten as two.
Prosecutors will drop the five remaining charges in DC federal court against Manafort, including money laundering, tax fraud, failing to disclose foreign bank accounts, violating federal foreign lobbying law and lying to the Department of Justice. But the court filing says Manafort admits to the actions.
Manafort had faced seven charges in Washington and faces another 10 possible charges in Virginia which had been declared in mistrial. It's still not clear what will happen to those charges in Virginia federal court. He's already been convicted on eight counts of bank and tax fraud crimes in the Virginia trial.
In recent days, as the Manafort plea talks were ongoing, the President's legal team expressed confidence that if Manafort signed a cooperation agreement it wouldn't have anything to do with the President, according to a source briefed on their thinking.
In a statement Friday, the President's attorney Rudy Giuliani reiterated that confidence.
"Once again an investigation has concluded with a plea having nothing to do with President Trump or the Trump campaign. The reason: the President did nothing wrong," said Giuliani.
It was the second version of the statement. The initial version, which was quickly revised, included "Paul Manafort will tell the truth" as part of the quote. The amended version removed the phrase.
A legal source, supportive of the President and familiar with the Manafort case, said the Trump team does not believe Manafort has anything significant on the President to share with the special counsel.
The White House had previously distanced itself from Manafort and downplayed his time leading the Trump campaign. But last month, Trump expressed sympathy for him.
"I feel very badly for Paul Manafort and his wonderful family," the President tweeted the week of Manafort's conviction in his Virginia trial. "'Justice' took a 12 year old tax case, among other things, applied tremendous pressure on him and, unlike Michael Cohen, he refused to 'break' - make up stories in order to get a 'deal.' Such respect for a brave man!"
In their filing, prosecutors describe Manafort's scheme to take in more than $60 million from pro-Russian Ukrainians and launder that money to avoid paying taxes. He appears to admit to the allegations he faced in both Virginia federal court and DC district court, describing his use of offshore bank accounts to move the money, deceive his accountants and bookkeeper and then spend the money on lavish purchases and real estate.
He also will admit to lying to banks about his assets to gain new loans as a way to supplement his income, according to the filing.
"Manafort cheated the United States out of over $15 million in taxes," the filing states, adding that in order to commit the crimes, he relied on help from both his longtime deputy Rick Gates and the Russian Konstantin Kilimnik.

Jury selection was set to begin next week

Friday's plea deal comes just three days ahead of when jury selection for his second trial was set to begin.
As part of the run-up to the second trial, Manafort's lawyers filed hundreds of pages in court to fight prosecutors' allegations -- having brought two appeals unsuccessfully -- and his legal fees mounted to more than $1 million, according to two people familiar with his case.
Manafort, Trump's top political operative from May to August 2016, has long been considered one of the bigger fish for Muller's office. In addition to the financial and lobbying charges against Manafort, the special counsel's team has said it's investigating allegations he colluded with Russia while working for Trump.

Over the past several months, Manafort's legal options slimmed as the special counsel notched several wins against him, including sending him to jail, securing several cooperators and gaining convictions.
Manafort's case marked the first indictment in Mueller's investigation. The allegations revealed last October reiterated a year of news reports that Manafort had secretly funneled income from Ukrainian lobbying contacts for years.
After his arrest in October, he was detained by the court in his Alexandria, Virginia, home for more than eight months.
Then in February, prosecutors filed new mortgage and tax fraud charges against him weeks after they discovered he was offering to secure his bail with homes tied up in his alleged mortgage fraud.
Prosecutors also gained the cooperation of his longtime associate Rick Gates, who had been indicted alongside him. Gates pleaded guilty in February to helping Manafort use bank accounts in Cyprus and Grenadines to hide millions they had made while lobbying for Ukrainian politicians. Gates testified against Manafort in the Virginia trial, saying his former boss had directed him to commit the fraud.
The special counsel's office added a second potential cooperator against Manafort in late August when another lobbyist for the Ukrainians, Sam Patten, pleaded guilty to a foreign lobbying charge. Patten worked with Manafort's Russian associate Kilimnik through 2017 and admitted in court to illegally using a straw purchaser to buy Trump inaugural tickets for an oligarch.
Kilimnik is charged as a co-defendant in Manafort's DC criminal case, for the witness tampering accusation. In previous court filings, prosecutors allege he had ties to the Russian GRU, a military intelligence agency. Kilimnik has not appeared in court, though Manafort's plea Friday admits that he committed his crimes in conspiracy with both Gates and Kilimnik.

 

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Just shows.....the right being racists is bad enough...their stance on minorities.....and this shows they just have no morale character at all!!



Some Republicans Stick By Brett Kavanaugh In Face Of Attempted Sexual Assault Accusation
Sebastian Murdock,HuffPost


After news broke on Friday that President Donald Trump’s pick for the Supreme Court has been accused of attempted sexual assault while in high school, some Republican lawmakers hoping to confirm Brett Kavanaugh rushed to his defense.
As The New Yorker first reported, Kavanaugh allegedly held a woman down as a high school student in the 1980s and tried to assault her. From that publication:

The allegation dates back to the early nineteen-eighties, when Kavanaugh was a high-school student at Georgetown Preparatory School, in Bethesda, Maryland, and the woman attended a nearby high school. In the letter, the woman alleged that, during an encounter at a party, Kavanaugh held her down, and that he attempted to ******* himself on her. She claimed in the letter that Kavanaugh and a classmate of his, both of whom had been drinking, turned up music that was playing in the room to conceal the sound of her protests, and that Kavanaugh covered her mouth with his hand. She was able to free herself. Although the alleged incident took place decades ago and the three individuals involved were minors, the woman said that the memory had been a source of ongoing distress for her, and that she had sought psychological treatment as a result.​

“I categorically and unequivocally deny this allegation,” Kavanaugh said in a statement to The New Yorker. “I did not do this back in high school or at any time.”
On Thursday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, acknowledged she had received a letter from the accuser and shared it with the FBI.

Top Republican lawmakers are already jumping to Kavanaugh’s defense. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), chairman of the Judiciary Committee, released a letter signed by more than 60 women who have known the nominee.
“We are women who have known Brett Kavanaugh for more than 35 years and knew him while he attended high school between 1979 and 1983,” the letter said. “For the entire time we have known Brett Kavanaugh, he has behaved honorably and treated women with respect. We strongly believe it is important to convey this information to the Committee at this time.”
The women describe the young Kavanaugh as an “outstanding student and athlete with a wide circle of friends.”
As the Me Too movement has repeatedly pointed out, treating some people well does not mean an individual did not sexually abuse another.
The sheer number of signatures also led some observers to question whether Grassley’s office had known of the accusation before reports about the letter to Feinstein surfaced. Grassley’s office denied this, and one of the women who signed the letter tweeted on Friday that she only found out about it the night before.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), another member of the Judiciary Committee, responded to the accusation dismissively by retweeting someone who had posted REO Speedwagon’s “Take It on the Run.” The lyrics include this line: “Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another you’ve been messing around.”

HuffPost has reached out to Sens. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Susan Collins (Maine), who could ultimately be the swing votes on Kavanaugh’s confirmation.
This is a developing story.

• This article originally appeared on HuffPost.

 

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PoliticsIt's Not Just the President* Who Ought to Be Sweating Today
Charles P. Pierce,

Before the Paul Manafort's Destiny Party really gets rolling-Vodka and ostrich meat for everyone!-let's pause for a moment and consider Vice President Mike Pence. The Choirboy (pace Doghouse Riley) was going nowhere in the winter of 2016. He had screwed up eight ways from Sunday as governor of Indiana, and it was better than even money that he wouldn't be re-elected. His career had kicked the ye oaken bucket.
Then, that summer, a miracle happened, and the miracle was named Paul Manafort. From CBS News:

First reported by the New York Post, an indecisive Trump had initially decided on Christie after the New Jersey governor made his final case to Trump on July 12. Christie, the first former presidential candidate to get behind Trump after a poor showing in the New Hampshire primary, had assumed a high profile role on the campaign prior to the Convention – reaching out to donors and potential high profile supporters. Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager at the time, allegedly had another idea in mind.​

Manafort had arranged for Trump to meet with his first choice for the job on July 13: Indiana Governor Mike Pence. Afterwards, the plans was for Trump and Pence to then fly back to New York together and a formal announcement would be made, a campaign source said of Manafort’s thinking. What had previously been reported as a “lucky break” by the New York Times was actually a swift political maneuver devised by the now fired campaign manager. Set on changing Trump’s mind, he concocted a story that Trump’s plane had mechanical problems, forsing the soon-to-be Republican nominee to stay the night in Indianapolis for breakfast with the Pence family on Wednesday morning.​

Other than softening the Republican Party's stance on Russian thuggery in the Ukraine, and maneuvering Mike Pence into the vice presidency, Manafort didn't do much in the short time he managed the president*'s campaign, except possibly commit some crimes. On Friday, the president*'s former campaign manager, and the person most responsible for the vice president's presence on the ticket, pleaded guilty to...wait for it..."conspiracy against the United States," which isn't really as serious as it sounds, but which is not something to which any president wants his former campaign manager to cop. Mike Pence has one foot in the barrel now, too.​

Other than that, I don't have a lot to add to Friday's proceedings. Manafort clearly didn't trust the president* to deliver on a pardon. (Smart play, Paul.) I don't know how much, precisely, he can hand over to Mueller, but he can put other people who have more to offer into the frying pan. If I were either of the two Trump boys, or Jared and Ivanka, I'd be buying new court clothes tonight. They're pretty much the only ones left short of El Caudillo Del Mar-A-Lago. From The Washington Post:

Kevin Downing, an attorney for Manafort, gave a brief statement outside the courthouse after the hearing. “He wanted to make sure his family remained safe and live a good life,” Downing said of Manafort. “He has accepted responsibility.”​

"Safe" is a curious word in this context. Or, maybe it's not.

Prosecutor Andrew Weissmann said at the beginning of Friday’s plea hearing that Manafort has agreed to cooperate with investigators, saying the 17-page plea document included the terms of Manafort’s expected cooperation. Jackson noted Manafort has agreed to cooperate “fully and truthfully” with the investigation conducted by the Office of Special Counsel, including participating in interviews and debriefings, producing any documents in his control, testifying and agreeing to delay sentencing until a time set by government.​

And Robert Mueller, with no expression on his face, reaches across his desk for another document.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/apos-not-just-president-ought-184400353.html​

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damn wouldn't that be a nice way to make history......a DOUBLE IMPEACHMENT!​

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I'll bet Paul Ryan would love that!​

 

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Donald Trump wrongly says Social Security and Medicare are stronger

By Jon Greenberg on Thursday, September 6th, 2018 at 5:05 p.m.

President Donald Trump is rejecting the image of policy chaos and bitter staff infighting captured in the latest book by Washington Post editor Bob Woodward.

At a meeting with Kuwait’s leader Sheikh Al-Sabah, Trump called the book "fiction" and said in contrast to what it describes, no administration has gotten more done on tax cuts, deregulation and the courts than his. And the accomplishments don’t end there.

We’re saving Medicare," Trump said Sept. 5. "The Democrats want to destroy Medicare. If you look at what they’re doing, they’re going to destroy Medicare. And we will save it. We will keep it going. We’re making it stronger. We’re making Social Security stronger. We’re making our whole country stronger. So all you have to do is look at the achievements."

In this fact-check, we look at whether the Trump administration has made Medicare and Social Security stronger.

Key takeaways

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  Compared with estimates a year ago, the primary trust fund for Medicare runs out three years sooner.
  
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  The primary trust fund for Social Security runs out one year sooner.
  
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  The Republican tax cuts trimmed a year of solvency from the primary Medicare trust fund and had a negative effect on the Social Security trust fund.

Medicare

Medicare serves almost one out of six Americans. It’s primarily health insurance for people 65 and older, but it also helps millions of citizens with disabilities.

serves 58.4 million people
8.9 million on disability
49.5 elderly

net spending in 2017 591 billion 17% of the budget

edicare’s core program, Part A, covers hospital care, and it’s an entitlement. Anyone who qualifies gets the coverage and the government funding is automatic, not subject to the annual budget decisions of Congress.

The money for Part A comes out of the Hospital Insurance Trust Fund. Payroll taxes provide about 90 percent of the trust fund’s income. Coming in a distant second are taxes on wealthier Social Security recipients, which provide about 8 percent of total revenues.

In their 2018 report, the Medicare Trustees forecast that fund would run out of money in 2026. A year earlier, they said it would last until 2029. On Trump’s watch, it lost three years of solvency.

In a presentation at the American Enterprise Institute, a market-oriented think tank, the chief actuary at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Paul Spitalnic said two of the lost years were due to lower than expected wage growth.

But the other lost year came from the Republican tax cuts.

"The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 decreased individual tax rates and as a result, there is somewhat less income coming into the trust fund," Spitalnic said. "That does have an effect of making depletion of the trust fund a year earlier."

Social Security

The tax cut law had a similar impact on Social Security. Social Security has two parts -- the Old Age and Survivors Trust Fund, which served 51 million people in 2017, and the Disability Trust Fund, which served 10 million. According to the 2018 Social Security Trustees report, the total price tag in 2017 was $952 billion.

The Old Age and Survivors fund is the big one for retired people, with about $2.8 trillion. The Disability fund had $71 billion at the end of 2017.

With costs rising faster than income, the larger fund is expected to run dry in 2034. A year earlier, the projection was for 2035. So that’s a loss of one year of solvency.

The trustees listed several factors for the worsening situation, including the tax cut law, the expected end of DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, an immigration program Trump opposes), and lower-than-expected wage increases. All three reduced the dollars coming into the trust fund.

The one bright spot was with the Disability Insurance Trust Fund. While by far the smaller of the two, its projected solvency date was extended by four years, driven by a fall in the number of people claiming benefits.

White House staff noted that the economy is growing and growth helps Social Security and Medicare. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said the same when the latest trustees reports came out in June.

Not all economists agree that growth will solve all. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a deficit control group, argues that growth leads to higher prices, which in turn increases program costs.

The White House also said payroll contributions are up since last year. But unless revenues come in faster than outlays, the trust funds continue to lose ground.

Outside assessments

We asked Olivia Mitchell, a professor and leading analyst of social insurance funds at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School, how she would assess the status of Social Security and Medicare.

"Trump’s administration has done nothing to strengthen Social Security or Medicare," Mitchell said.

Health policy professor Paul Ginsburg with the University of Southern California and the Brookings Institution told us that he’s hard pressed to remember a tax bill that left the Medicare trust fund worse off.

"The recent change, where legislation moved the date forward, is very unusual and reflects the unusual and dangerous mindset in Congress of not caring about increases in the deficit," Ginsburg said.

Our ruling

Trump said that his administration is making Medicare and Social Security stronger. The forecast for both programs is worse today than a year ago. The main Medicare trust fund is expected to run out of money three years sooner. The main Social Security trust fund is expected to run out one year sooner.

The Republican tax cut law and lower-than-projected wages accounted for most of the downgrade.

We rate this claim False.
Our ruling

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-trump-wrongly-says-social-security-and-medi/


Trump Says He's Strengthening Medicare and Social Security. He's Not

Yahoo View•September 14, 2018

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-says-apos-strengthening-medicare-162700628.html

 

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SO WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK THE "DONALD" MIGHT CHOOSE?

 

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SO WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK THE "DONALD" MIGHT CHOOSE?
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none o the above...he likes being pissed on!

 

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none o the above...he likes being pissed on!

Lol! So I heard!!!

 

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the light at the end of the tunnel?

There are now 2 ways the Mueller probe can go for Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/now-two-ways-mueller-probe-can-go-trump-173817525.html

 

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damn is that a fact! but bet they still won't do anything about it!

Grim warnings for White House, Republicans ahead of election
JULIE PACE, CATHERINE LUCEY and ZEKE MILLER,Associated

WASHINGTON (AP) — The prognosis for President Donald Trump and his party was grim.
In a post-Labor Day briefing at the White House, a top Republican pollster told senior staff that the determining factor in the election wouldn't be the improving economy or the steady increase in job creation. It would be how voters feel about Trump. And the majority of the electorate, including a sizable percentage of Republican-leaning voters, doesn't feel good about the president, according to a presentation from pollster Neil Newhouse that spanned dozens of pages.
Newhouse's briefing came amid a darkening mood among Republican officials as the November election nears. Party leaders were already worried that a surge in enthusiasm among Democrats and disdain for Trump by moderate Republicans would put the House out of reach. But some Republicans now fear their Senate majority is also in peril — a scenario that was unthinkable a few months ago given the favorable Senate map for the GOP.
"For Republican candidates to win in swing states, they need all of the voters who support President Trump, plus a chunk of those who do not," said Whit Ayres, a GOP pollster. "That is threading a very narrow strategic needle."

Operatives in both parties say Republicans still have the edge in the fight for control of the Senate. But GOP officials are increasingly worried that nominees in conservative-leaning states like Missouri and Indiana are underperforming, while races in Tennessee and Texas that should be slam-dunks for Republicans are close.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell raised an alarm last week, warning that each of the competitive Senate races would be "like a knife fight in an alley."
Some of the public fretting among Republicans appears to be strategic, as party officials try to motivate both voters and donors. Many moderate Republican voters "don't believe there is anything at stake in this election," according to the documents Newhouse presented to White House officials. He attributed that belief in part to a disregard for public polling, given that most surveys showed Democrat Hillary Clinton defeating Trump in the 2016 presidential election.
Newhouse and the White House would not comment on the early September meeting. The Associated Press obtained a copy of Newhouse's presentation, and two Republicans with knowledge of the briefing discussed the details on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the matter publicly.
At the White House, anxiety over the midterms has been on the rise for months as polls increasingly show a challenging environment for the GOP and heightened Democratic enthusiasm. The sheer number of competitive races in both the House and Senate is stretching cash reserves and forsing tough calculations about where to deploy resources and surrogates. And there are growing fears that the coalition of voters that delivered Trump to the White House will not come out for midterms.
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When 60% of the Americans Oppose a Health Care bill but the politicians that supposedly represent us pass it anyways because it enriches the mega-insurance companies..................

Doesn't really matter much does it? They are all just different nuts in the same jar.

 

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When 60% of the Americans Oppose a Health Care bill but the politicians that supposedly represent us pass it anyways because it enriches the mega-insurance companies..................

Doesn't really matter much does it? They are all just different nuts in the same jar.

that doesn't seem to be the consensus right now does it?
they were fed a line of ******* the first time by the right...who just opposed anything Obama did.....had they jumped in and helped a little it wouldn't be a main talking point this election!
right now it is a piece of ******* and people paying through the nose....the ones that can afford it....rest now back to doing without
people don't realize what they have until they don't have it anymore


why is it that this country is slipping in so many areas we used to lead the world in?
right wing politics would be the answer!
health care...education......pay...….even fell out of the top 20 in democracy with all the voter rigging the right is doing!
your party is just not for what is good for America!....that is the bottom line!

I think you KNOW that....but right now your wallet is growing and you don't care!
that's the problem with America....greed!

 

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that doesn't seem to be the consensus right now does it?
they were fed a line of ******* the first time by the right...who just opposed anything Obama did.....had they jumped in and helped a little it wouldn't be a main talking point this election!
right now it is a piece of ******* and people paying through the nose....the ones that can afford it....rest now back to doing without
people don't realize what they have until they don't have it anymore


why is it that this country is slipping in so many areas we used to lead the world in?
right wing politics would be the answer!
health care...education......pay...….even fell out of the top 20 in democracy with all the voter rigging the right is doing!
your party is just not for what is good for America!....that is the bottom line!

I think you KNOW that....but right now your wallet is growing and you don't care!
that's the problem with America....greed!

Wanting the government to pay your way in every aspect of life sounds more greedy to me than working hard and growing your own wealth and self worth. Irony - Calling me "greedy" while defending a health care plan that does nothing but put millions into the pockets of greedy insurance companies while taxing the middle class.

I'll repeat - the ONLY people I have seen defend the ACA are greedy insurance companies and lazy fucks that don't work. The poor, disabled and unable, already got free health care. It's just another social program to win your vote - here's your kool-aid.

 

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Wanting the government to pay your way in every aspect of life sounds more greedy to me than working hard and growing your own wealth and self worth. Irony - Calling me "greedy" while defending a health care plan that does nothing but put millions into the pockets of greedy insurance companies while taxing the middle class.

I'll repeat - the ONLY people I have seen defend the ACA are greedy insurance companies and lazy fucks that don't work. The poor, disabled and unable, already got free health care. It's just another social program to win your vote - here's your kool-aid.

wrong again there oh greedy one!...except for the part of calling you greedy!

look at how many work now...some even 3 jobs...just to get by!...If these greedy employers were required to furnish health care for their employees maybe a lot of what the gov has to supply could be dismissed...but since employer greed is the game of the day....and the gov won't push to make the greedy ones pay...then the gov should!

In a country of this size and rich and powerful....no reason everyone should not be able to have health insurance
It is not the individuals fault he can't make it on 2 and 3 jobs!
those people still go to the hospital when needed......and you and I pay for that!

health insurance is no different than any other corp today milking America...the only diff is they can't go over seas like the others so they really stick it to the public....I think it was Teddy R that said we do not want to regulate the corps, but we do want to put in check their greed...something like that
anyway we need a regulatory firm back in place to stop the greed and coruption

used to be a hospital was happy if they didn't lose money......now they have stockholders...all with their hands out....look mat the ******* companies most of what the sell can be bought for a third of the price in Canada or mexico...why is that?
\My neighbor goes to mexico for a week every year, he and his wife have whatever dental work they need done...and buy a years worth of their needed meds!....save enough to pay for the vacation and the trip
again it all goes back to greed!




now I will admit that for some small biz it would be very costly for them to supply health insurance....but there again if the gov stepped in and put some kinds of check and balances of hospt and meds....and probably supplement the small employers some...everyone should still be able to have health ins

 

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look at how many work now...some even 3 jobs...just to get by!...If these greedy employers were required to furnish health care for their employees maybe a lot of what the gov has to supply could be dismissed...but since employer greed is the game of the day....and the gov won't push to make the greedy ones pay...then the gov should!

GIMME GIMME GIMME that's all I here for the left. Now who is the greedy one? Name one good reason ANYONE should GIVE you ANYTHING?
Why is it the responsibility of the corporation or the government? The only thing the corporation owes you is compensation for your time. If your not getting what you feel you are worth, then find a different job. The only thing the government owes you is what is in the constitution.

Your just a taker.

In a country of this size and rich and powerful....no reason everyone should not be able to have health insurance

Let me correct that statement - There is no reason everyone can't afford health care. We shouldn't need insurance. All you are doing is feed the greedy corporation you so claim to be against! THINK! There is no reason for basic health care to be so expensive.

It is not the individuals fault he can't make it on 2 and 3 jobs!

Disagree - if your not making in on one job, find a different job. It's no the governments responsibility to provide for you.

those people still go to the hospital when needed......and you and I pay for that!

And who do you think pays for it now????????THINK!!!!

Just remember, when the government is powerful enough to give you everything you need, they will be powerful enough to take everything you have. Once our rights are stripped away because you want the government to take care of you and suck you into their bosom, maybe then you will understand. But I doubt it, you will just continue to blame Regan, Bush, Trump, etc etc.

 

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GIMME GIMME GIMME that's all I here for the left.

Greed greed greed that's all we hear from the right...their profit margin is just not enough!

Name one good reason ANYONE should GIVE you ANYTHING?

not saying anyone should be GIVEN anything....Name one major country that does NOT have some kind of health care!?

Why is it the responsibility of the corporation or the government?

wouldn't have to be IF you greedy employers paid your employees enough to afford it...like it should be!..but again it's the right wing greed coming in...pay as little as possible...hire illegals when you can....keep their hours down so you don't have to give them anything...and keep them indebited to you...that's the game plan isn't it/

The only thing the corporation owes you is compensation for your time

well lets take a look at where wages have gone over the past 20 years......and then take a look at CEO's wages and corp profit margin...again Greed Greed greed!...all in your pocket and fuck the rest and let them die!.....right wing policy isn't it?

If your not getting what you feel you are worth, then find a different job.

and just what does that next job pay...…...corp/company collusion?

The only thing the government owes you is what is in the constitution.

true but the right sure has a way of doctoring that to suit their will

There is no reason everyone can't afford health care

tell that to the ones working more than one job just to get by....pretty sure I posted on here last week where most are living off their credit card right now......how long before they can't pay that card and the banks stuck holding the bill....and your man took all the checks and balances off that so who knows what will happen....we bail them out again...or do we go into a recession...one or the other!

All you are doing is feed the greedy corporation you so claim to be against!

those greedy corporations you so willingly defend are the ones that put the changes in place to allow them to go overseas for cheaper labor...it sure wasn't the working man!....again Greed Greed Greed!....and yes you fit right in!

Disagree - if your not making in on one job, find a different job.

you already said that and I replied to that!

There is no reason for basic health care to be so expensive.

sure there is.... they went from basic health care to major corps with stockholders....and all those stock holders have their hands out...again Greed greed Greed!

And who do you think pays for it now????????THINK!!!!

read the statement above that...I already said it is you and I....you just want to argue now and defend that Greed greed Greed

Just remember, when the government is powerful enough to give you everything you need, they will be powerful enough to take everything you have

there are enough check and balances in place to prevent that.....except when it comes to the right and their corrupt politicians wanting....Greed Greed Greed! But we can't stop corrupt politicians that make laws favoring the greedy

Once our rights are stripped away because you want the government to take care of you and suck you into their bosom, maybe then you will understand. But I doubt it, you will just continue to blame Regan, Bush, Trump, etc etc.

those rights have been gradually stripped away now.....voter suppression ...doing away with unions that fought for decent wages and benefits.....changing a lot of the work rules and hours...most gave health ins at one time...how many now....most could afford to live on one job how many now.....who allowed those corps to go over seas....you did just name 3 that are a good part of it

but again it goes back to you and yours.....Greed Greed Greed
what can you do for ME isn't that the republican motto....country be damned!
more party over country...me over everyone else
the American dream is now in some republicans billfold!