Wake Up, America! Wake Up! PLEASE!!

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well you did post something...….from a far right source only fox listeners would believe....well that and a few on here....but that isn't saying much

Oh my goodness it is too easy. I was feeling devilish so I posted this knowing you would say, "You posted something, but" and then dismiss it as right wing and throw in an insult.

2 Questions
1- How can I never post something and then seem to post a lot of this?
2- If Dems are so smart, there are so many more of them, and are so much better how can they are all be victims and so oppressed with no power?
 
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you do come up with some childish *******....get that from hottobe or from blklump?...or do all of you just seem to think alike ...in the see spot run category.....see LINK below



Donald Trump loves the 'poorly educated' — and they love him
https://www.usatoday.com/.../2016/02/24/donald-trump-nevada-poorly-educated/80860078
Feb 24, 2016 · Trump told supporters in Las Vegas that he got votes from well educated and poorly educated people, adding "I love the poorly educated." ... Trump didn't just win with less educated

Same Link from 2016...….What can't find anything new...…. that confirms your intolerant bias view of half the...... county.....Too slow to realize every time you post this you prove me right......And then post an insult and prove me right again......

Liberalism Linked To Low IQ | Poletical.com
www.poletical.com/liberal-liberalism-low-intelligence.php
 
Same Link from 2016...….What can't find anything new...…. that confirms your intolerant bias view of half the...... county.....Too slow to realize every time you post this you prove me right......And then post an insult and prove me right again......

Liberalism Linked To Low IQ | Poletical.com
www.poletical.com/liberal-liberalism-low-intelligence.php




A crack in Trump’s ‘poorly educated’ base?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/20/trump-hailed-his-support-poorly...
Aug 20, 2019 · The poll tested Trump against a generic 2020 Democrat and found him losing by 12 points overall. That included a remarkable 33-point deficit among college-educated white women and even a six-point deficit among non-college-educated white women. That’s a group he had carried by 27 points in 2016 exit polls.
 



Why Republicans Play Dirty
They fear that if they stick to the rules, they will lose everything. Their behavior is a threat to democratic stability.

The greatest threat to our democracy today is a Republican Party that plays dirty to win.
The party’s abandonment of fair play was showcased spectacularly in 2016, when the United States Senate refused to allow President Barack Obama to fill the Supreme Court vacancy created by Justice Antonin Scalia’s death in February. While technically constitutional, the act — in effect, stealing a court seat — hadn’t been tried since the 19th century. It would be bad enough on its own, but the Merrick Garland affair is part of a broader pattern.

Republicans across the country seem to have embraced an “any means necessary” strategy to preserve their power. After losing the governorship in North Carolina in 2016 and Wisconsin in 2018, Republicans used lame-duck legislative sessions to push through a flurry of bills stripping power from incoming Democratic governors.

Last year, when the Pennsylvania Supreme Court struck down a Republican gerrymandering initiative, conservative legislators attempted to impeach the justices. And back in North Carolina, Republican legislators used a surprise vote last week, on Sept. 11, to ram through an override of Gov. Roy Cooper’s budget veto — while most Democrats had been told no vote would be held. This is classic “constitutional hardball,” behavior that, while technically legal, uses the letter of the law to subvert its spirit.

Constitutional hardball has accelerated under the Trump administration. President Trump’s declaration of a “national emergency” to divert public money toward a border wall — openly flouting Congress, which voted against building a wall — is a clear example. And the Supreme Court’s conservative majority, manufactured by an earlier act of hardball, may uphold the constitutionality of the president’s autocratic behavior.

Constitutional hardball can damage and even destroy a democracy. Democratic institutions function only when power is exercised with restraint. When parties abandon the spirit of the law and seek to win by any means necessary, politics often descends into institutional warfare. Governments in Hungary and Turkey have used court packing and other “legal” maneuvers to lock in power and ensure that subsequent abuse is ruled “constitutional.” And when one party engages in constitutional hardball, its rivals often feel compelled to respond in a tit-for-tat fashion, triggering an escalating conflict that is difficult to undo. As the collapse of democracy in Germany and Spain in the 1930s and Chile in the 1970s makes clear, these escalating conflicts can end in tragedy.

Why is the Republican Party playing dirty? Republican leaders are not driven by an intrinsic or ideological contempt for democracy. They are driven by fear.

Democracy requires that parties know how to lose. Politicians who fail to win elections must be willing to accept defeat, go home, and get ready to play again the next day. This norm of gracious losing is essential to a healthy democracy.
But for parties to accept losing, two conditions must hold. First, they must feel secure that losing today will not bring ruinous consequences; and second, they must believe they have a reasonable chance of winning again in the future. When party leaders fear that they cannot win future elections, or that defeat poses an existential threat to themselves or their constituents, the stakes rise. Their time horizons shorten. They throw tomorrow to the wind and seek to win at any cost today. In short, desperation leads politicians to play dirty.

Take German conservatives before World War I. They were haunted by the prospect of extending equal voting rights to the working class. They viewed equal (male) suffrage as a menace not only to their own electoral prospects but also to the survival of the aristocratic order. One Conservative leader called full and equal suffrage an “attack on the laws of civilization.” So German conservatives played dirty, engaging in rampant election manipulation and outright repression in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

In the United States, Southern Democrats reacted in a similar manner to the Reconstruction-era enfranchisement of African-Americans. Mandated by the 15th Amendment, which was ratified in 1870, black suffrage not only imperiled Southern Democrats’ political dominance but also challenged longstanding patterns of white supremacy. Since African-Americans represented a majority or near majority in many of the post-Confederate states, Southern Democrats viewed their enfranchisement as an existential threat. So they, too, played dirty.

Between 1885 and 1908, all 11 post-Confederate states passed laws establishing poll taxes, literacy tests, property and residency requirements and other measures aimed at stripping African-Americans of their voting rights — and locking in Democratic Party dominance. In Tennessee, where the 1889 Dortch Law would disenfranchise illiterate black voters, one newspaper editorialized, “Give us the Dortch bill or we perish.” These measures, building on a monstrous campaign of anti-black violence, did precisely what they were intended to do: Black turnout in the South fell to 2 percent in 1912 from 61 percent in 1880. Unwilling to lose, Southern Democrats stripped the right to vote from millions of people, ushering in nearly a century of authoritarian rule in the South.

Republicans appear to be in the grip of a similar panic today. Their medium-term electoral prospects are dim. For one, they remain an overwhelmingly white Christian party in an increasingly diverse society. As a share of the American electorate, white Christians declined from 73 percent in 1992 to 57 percent in 2012 and may be below 50 percent by 2024. Republicans also face a generational challenge: Younger voters are deserting them. In 2018, 18- to 29-year-olds voted for Democrats by more than 2 to 1, and 30-somethings voted nearly 60 percent for Democrats.

Demography is not destiny, but as California Republicans have discovered, it often punishes parties that fail to adapt to changing societies. The growing diversity of the American electorate is making it harder for the Republican Party to win national majorities. Republicans have won the popular vote in presidential elections just once in the last 30 years. Donald Trump captured this Republican pessimism well when he told the Christian Broadcasting Network in 2016, “I think this is the last election the Republicans have a chance of winning because you are going to have people flowing across the border.”
“If we don’t win this election,” Mr. Trump added, “you’ll never see another Republican.”


The problem runs deeper than electoral math, however. Much of the Republican base views defeat as catastrophic. White Christians are losing more than an electoral majority; their once-dominant status in American society is eroding. Half a century ago, white Protestant men occupied nearly all our country’s high-status positions: They made up nearly all the elected officials, business leaders and media figures. Those days are over, but the loss of a group’s social status can feel deeply threatening. Many rank-and-file Republicans believe that the country they grew up in is being taken away from them. Slogans like “take our country back” and “make America great again” reflect this sense of peril.

So like the old Southern Democrats, modern-day Republicans have responded to darkening electoral horizons and rank-and-file perceptions of existential threat with a win-at-any-cost mentality. Most reminiscent of the Jim Crow South are Republican efforts to tilt the electoral playing field. Since 2010, a dozen Republican-led states have adopted new laws making it more difficult to register or vote. Republican state and local governments have closed polling places in predominantly African-American neighborhoods, purged voter rolls and created new obstacles to registration and voting.

In Georgia, a 2017 “exact match law” allowed authorities to throw out voter registration forms whose information did not “exactly match” existing records. Brian Kemp, who was simultaneously Georgia’s secretary of state and the 2018 Republican candidate for governor,
tried to use the law to invalidate tens of thousands of registration forms, many of which were from African-Americans. In Tennessee, Republicans recently passed chilling legislation allowing criminal charges to be levied against voter registration groups that submit incomplete forms or miss deadlines. And in Texas this year, Republicans attempted to purge the voter rolls of nearly 100,000 Latinos.

The Trump administration’s effort to include a citizenship question in the census to facilitate gerrymandering schemes that would, in the words of one party strategist, be “advantageous to Republicans and non-Hispanic whites
,” fits the broader pattern. Although these abuses are certainly less egregious than those committed by post-bellum Southern Democrats, the underlying logic is similar: Parties representing fearful, declining majorities turn, in desperation, to minority rule.

The only way out of this situation is for the Republican Party to become more diverse. A stunning 90 percent of House Republicans are white men, even though white men are a third of the electorate. Only when Republicans can compete seriously for younger, urban and nonwhite voters will their fear of losing — and of a multiracial America — subside.

Such a transformation is less far-fetched than it may appear right now; indeed, the Republican National Committee recommended it in 2013. But parties only change when their strategies bring costly defeat. So Republicans must fail — badly — at the polls.

American democracy faces a Catch-22: Republicans won’t abandon their white identity bunker strategy until they lose, but at the same time that strategy has made them so averse to losing they are willing to bend the rules to avoid this fate. There is no easy exit. Republican leaders must either stand up to their base and broaden their appeal or they must suffer an electoral thrashing so severe that they are compelled to do so.

Liberal democracy has historically required at least two competing parties committed to playing the democratic game, including one that typically represents conservative interests. But the commitment of America’s conservative party to this system is wavering, threatening our political system as a whole. Until Republicans learn to compete fairly in a diverse society, our democratic institutions will be imperiled.

Opinion | Why Republicans Play Dirty
They fear that if they stick to the rules, they will lose everything. Their behavior is a threat to democratic stability.
www.nytimes.com
 
Russian Trolls Shift Strategy to Disrupt U.S. Election in 2020
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-09/russian-trolls-shift-strategy-to...
Mar 09, 2019 · Photographer: Daniel Acker/Bloomberg. Russian internet trolls appear to be shifting strategy in their efforts to disrupt the 2020 U.S. elections, promoting politically divisive messages through phony social media accounts instead of creating propaganda themselves, cybersecurity experts say.

The Fake Americans Russia Created to Influence the Election
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/politics/russia-facebook-twitter-election.html
Sep 07, 2017 · If that’s so, his prolific posts are a victory for Russia’s information war — that admirers of the Kremlin spread what American officials consider to be Russian disinformation on election hacking, Syria, Ukraine and more. But if Russian officials are gleeful at their success, in last year’s election


Let's try to protect the 2020 election. Here's how to prove you're not a Russian troll.
The federal government is either unable or unwilling to do anything about Russian trolls on social media. But we private citizens can make a start.

They are coming.

In fact, they never left. Russian efforts to influence American social media didn’t stop in November 2016. In the words of former special counsel Robert Mueller, Russia is attempting to influence the 2020 elections “as we sit here.”

A few weeks ago, a tweet by former FBI lawyer Lisa Page triggered a coordinated troll attack involving over 1,100 accounts. And these 1,100 accounts are just a drop in the bucket. One study discovered that on Twitter alone, for five weeks in September and October 2016, about 400,000 bots made nearly 19% of all tweets about the presidential election.

Russian efforts to manipulate American social media have grown more sophisticated since the summer of 2016, when they were often easy to spot. I was even able to unmask one myself, someone who was using the Disqus platform and Twitter as part of Russia’s efforts to manipulate American political opinion.

 
My answers in Red

So there is no election fraud?
Sure is!!! It's mostly voter suppression from the Right doing what they can to minimize participation of eligible voters. Republicans win when less people vote, not when there is record turnouts.

The problem, no one has shown minority suppression since the 70’s under Democrats. Even with all of the committees and political investigation they always focus on one law, or one event and claim suppressing then use wonky discredited polls or 'studies' by leftist NGOs as claims. Or article by discredited snopes.

You Democrats just spent a billion tax dollars on Mueller and three years whining Russia Russia Russia to prove election fraud so you could run an impeachment

tRump was President and the Congress was Republican in both houses. Mueller was a Republican, chosen by Republicans.

Yeah but Democrats and Media dove that and in reality the Dems gave the scared Republicans the list of who could lead. And you forgot that part about Russia Russia Russia and the impeachment where Dem after Dem claimed election interference and then implied election fraud. Then did a dog an pony show with witness who were not in the room or on the call. And they all got up and admitted Trump did not break any laws.


Didn’t the Democrats commit election fraud when Hilary was given the primary over Bernie so she could lose to Trump?
The answer is yes. The Hillary Supports titled Super Delegates bypassed the convention and gave it to Hillary, Hence all the push back and why the Super Delegates control changed?

And- Thinking people did ask those questions and said, one solution is Voter ID laws. Then emotional deranged limo leftist Dems started scream Racism and in their 'racism of low expectation' assumed minorities don't have IDs. Then thinking people came up with offering free state IDs and limo leftist lost their minds and start suing. For some reason Dems don’t seem to want to have a valid election.
Again using the term screaming or crying racism dismisses the actuality. Voter ID laws have proven to impact the turnout of minority voters as did the voter roll purges, the consolidation of longtime voting venues, and the disinformation on voting (you have to pay all of your parking tickets before voting). This is what happened in 2016. By 2018, the determination to bounce tRump out was stronger and people stood in line for hours in rural areas to flip the house- and that's what happened. tRump was handed big losses, plus the governorships in KY and LA.
You're dismissive of racism and condescending toward minorities. I'd be careful, starting sound a little out of touch.


Voter ID laws have not been proven to impact turnout. Democrat ‘academics’ with dubious data and bias interpretations claim that. In actuality they misrepresent shifting populations, lack lust voter interest/support for candidates and trends in age demographics who ignore voting as proof of suppression. You site KY and LA, both of those candidates were there for one reason political party power. They were widely disliked and lost for that reason. The Left Media used those as support to claims Obama was ‘wining” hearts and minds. The only suppressive point you detailed was paying parking tickets to vote. That is a valid point, if true, and of this decade, but if true it was not wide spread nor detailed in articles readily found.

I think you overstate Trump losses. I believe that was Never Trump Republican Loses that Dems like to claim as victory instead of scorn for weak Republicans. That and long term population migration.


And Again, the NC people voted the law in, including minorities, the Legislature passed it to define it and the Dem dominated election committee and Dem AG are fighting for it.
Voted what in??? I was talking about Wisconsin in particular where I was a witness under Scott Walker but now that you mention it. You are wrong about NC support for the law.



Then Why did you post an article about North Carolina in response?



Part 2- You really only have a superficial understanding of talking points, don't you? You do know there are death certificate issued by the state? You do know the County Clerks get the list of deaths? Then they bounce the list of dead people against the list of voters and see if dead people voted? You also know they track if you vote. Mail in Ballots have that barcode for a reason. You check in at polls for a reason. Hence the stat 81 dead voted.
Please. You trying to talk to me about civics is so far out of your league. If you vote in November and die, or early vote and die, does your vote still count? Yes. Apparently 81 people did. Now call your clerk's office or whomever keeps vital statistics- ask if they are checked against the voter regularly- then come back and apologize. Less than a dozen states have an official removal process for the deceased and less than that enforces it regularly. Next time you're offered tax cuts, ask about investing in a better system to maintain voter rolls.


Not my point. You are trying to parse the point to fight a strawman. The point is dead people are voting. Not someone who just died. People long deceased are voting and when the Republicans try to put functions in to purge the roles of the dead Leftist, like you just did, scream racism or voter suppression and then NGOs sue to stop those laws. Usually underwritten by Democrat redirection of tax dollars.

The point is “thinking” people know Chicago, New York City, NY State New Mexico and Louisiana are blatant examples of voter fraud states where Democrats have long had the dead voting Democrat. Except in Louisiana where, at the local level, it switches depending on who has the most funds.



You do realize the reporter got the information from the County Clerk or the Sec of State, right?
Yes. But, how and when make the difference. And, voting is controlled state by state not the feds so, the rules around it are not consistent.

No *******- Hence why there are areas where people assume, rightful in most case, that the powers at be rig the election or the primary to keep power. Like the Dem did to Bernie. And will try to do again this year.
SUPERDELAGATES:
They make up 13% of all Democratic delegates.
They make up 7% of all REPUBLICAN delegates.
Superdelegates in both parties are party officers and elected members of Congress from that state. No secret group. Bernie is losing because he can't get enough votes. The media hyped him up but his support is about the same as four years ago. Do you hate democracy? Well if not, let the people continue to vote and decide.
 
and you wonder why so many links showing trump people with low IQ'S....you could be a poster baby for some of those idiot links


Are Trump Supporters Really As Stupid As We Think ...
https://democracyguardian.com/are-trump-supporters...
May 04, 2017 · There has been a long standing belief that those that support Trump are the percentage of the country that is ignorant, naïve of politics, gullible and flat out stupid. This opinion was not developed by sheer chance, but has been based on both the behavior and the comments made by his supporters.


yes......see some of the answers in the above post
Oh hell yes!
 
I have read it.

First and foremost this is American Progress. You can't get more leftist unless you start linking the Communist News.

Second, most of this is propaganda and reaffirming the liberal talking points with opinion and lots of "could show" and "likely" sentences. This is propaganda. It takes data points like 1 in 7 voting age people say they are not registered to vote. And implies some nefarious obstacle instead of complacency or laziness or lack of interest. Or says“strict laws” that require people to prove they live in the district they are voting in for the last 30 days. Oh the horror.

Third much of this is government ineptness the leftist put in place and is now trying to turn into nefarious suppressing. No the government just can’t deliver.

So if you want to talk specific points on this we can, but I am not going to jump in so you can duck after the first round.
This is not the first round.
It could be Breitbart, as I pointed out, there are over 100 sources to this article. You send opinion pieces and then respond as the person you are, someone with limited views, experience and understanding.
i've toyed with you long enough. You want to take a victory lap, OK Jimmy enjoy yourself.
 
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