Subject for evolutionary biologists, anthropologists and psychologists?

[marco vittoro]

i think it really is all about the genes, and our perception of those genes.
understand there are 2 sets of precursors to consider.
1-the physical.
2-the non-physical.
the physical is the stronger and more needful (aka instinctive) urge...
but the non-physical, which includes intelligence, social prominence, fame, wealth, security, etc (access to resources) is more of a thought out and planned desire. we speak, write, have money, music, art, science, technology, and civilization because of this.
...whereas if it were only up to the physical, all women would be hairy, drag their knuckles, have a thick forehead, and go by names like "ugg".
my sense on this tho is that as society as grown soft, complacent, and sedentary...those that are too much a cliche of it them lose the vital desirability to women. they physical urge never goes away, and is in the moment, much stronger...so if the higher non-physical is no longer dynamically in play, then what is left to compete???

my alyssa has some serious mental & musical/artistic expectations too!

 

[Randilicous]

I am A firm believer also that female infedility has also been A prime mover in human evolution. Again you can see this in nature. Some species of Female ape will risk death at the hands of the males of her own troop, to sneak off and mate with A Male of another troop. The "foreigner" has A different DNA structure than the other Males in her tribe. Mixed together they will make for stronger offspring, more resilient to disease etc.

Hypergamy also rears it's head in human mating. Ever wonder why women find accents, French, Italian etc. so stimulating?

It's because they have different genes and she, on A biological level, wants to pass her genes on, with strong children. That mixing provides that.

It's estimated that during WW2 90,000 illegitimate children were born in the U.K. to American servicemen in England, by native Englishwomen. Yes the Americans were paid more than English soldiers, that plays A part, but also the Americans were "foreign" A different breed. 60% of Americans serving in WW2 were of German or Norwegian stock. Different double helix, mated with their own, to provide ******* with stronger genes.

Nature doesn't care about the morals of our society, women are the gatekeepers of that. Whether it is Elk fighting over an Estrus cow or men wooing women. The females always decide. Again an estimation but I've read that A majority of males did not successfully mate and pass on their genes as A historical average, before the advent of modern society.

I actually think in computer terms on this subject, the analogy might be flawed, however A computer Does mimic the human mind, after all it was created by humans. My thinking goes like this. DOS is the base programming, the underlying female urge to have the most healthy offspring possible. The GUI, windows, is A females social programming that we all can see. The whole valentine's, I need to be special to him, romance etc. That can Always be overwritten by her base programming, the need to pass on her genes to future generations, by getting bred by the strongest Male, not in terms of physical strength necessarily, but the best attributes in total.

Ever wonder why A woman will demand multiple dates from A regular guy before sex, but will line up to fuck A rockstar or celebrity any chance she gets? That explains it IMO.

Honestly all human societies have benefited from this. Look at pictures and the idealized beauty from even 100 years ago and you can see the difference.

If you want to study the subject more I recommend "The Red Queen" by Matt Ridley.
Perhaps before you question the how's and why's of our sexuality, you should have an understanding of why we have sex in the first place. Why don't all species reproduce asexually like lower lifeforms? Why are there men and women in the first place? The whole shitshow, and it can be A fun shitshow, was brought about to keep ahead of internal parasites, parasites we Also need to survive, there is A constant strife there. By mixing the genes of men and women we are less vulnerable to them. By continually adjusting our own defenses. It's A fascinating subject once you get down into the weeds of it.

 

[kukd]

Thank you so much for this reply because it exemplifies truly how much the whole manosphere ideology is just a gigantic self-cucking program.
It's very clear that if your cuckolding fetish is not entirely based upon insecurity and self-loathing, they definitely play a part.
Too good though, that almost everything you wrote is factually incorrect propaganda spread by pseudo-intellectuals on both sides of the political spectrum. Let's debunk those claims one by one :

"The "foreigner" has A different DNA structure than the other Males in her tribe. Mixed together they will make for stronger offspring"

Wrong. This popular myth has its grounds in the misconception that because inbreeding depression reduces the fitness of organisms, somehow fitness is proportional to the degree of outbreeding, but the underlying genetics actually predict the phenomenon known as "outbreeding depression", where fitness is reduced because of incompatible genetics and loss of local adaptation.

"Hypergamy also rears it's head in human mating. Ever wonder why women find accents, French, Italian etc. so stimulating?
It's because they have different genes and she, on A biological level, wants to pass her genes on, with strong children. That mixing provides that."

Ever thought about the possibility that certain accents are genuinely sexier than others ? Or do you think a chinese accent is seen as sexy just like the french and italian accents ? Of course not. Ever thought that breeding out reduces the genetic similarity to your offspring thus potentially serving as an out-selecting mechanism for groups wich do not practice endogamy ? Of course not.

"A majority of males did not successfully mate and pass on their genes as a historical average, before the advent of modern society"

Another piece of manosphere nonsense. The actual finding was that only about 20% or so of men from 10 thousands of years ago have succesfully passed on their paternal line to today, whilst the number was significantly higher for females. Now, some low IQ, uneducated incels have taken this to mean that only 20% percent of males successfully mated each generation : the maths don't add up. In short, 1. there is the fact that each time a male bears only female offspring, his paternal lineage was not passed down, 2. if there is even a tiny differential between female and male reproductive success (say men have a higher probability to die from war, disease, etc.), that difference will augment exponentially with each generation, creating a huge gap over time.

"the need to pass on her genes to future generations, by getting bred by the strongest Male, not in terms of physical strength necessarily, but the best attributes in total"

What a sad human being you must be, believing in the most potent lies of both the left-wing and right-wing crackpot idiots. Believing in excessive genetic diversity whilst also believing that said diversity can be boiled down to a tiny percentage of the population that gets selected every generation, with the majority of human genes being apparently worthless.

There really needs to be done something about that ever-decreasing IQ.

 

[PaleSkinLover]

there is no doubt about the existence of the alpha and the beta

 

[Sam&Kay]

Good article on psychology today
https://www.psychologytoday.com/int...et-male-sexual-fantasy-is-surprisingly-common

Cuckold fantasies its not only for white men, lots of asian, arab or indian men have cuckold fantasies.
Lots of men are cuckolds, but they dont know that... noughty wifes

You can add any race or culture to your list of men that have cuckold fantasies, including black men. Similarly, all races and cultures of women also enjoy cuckquean fantasies. These are human interests.

 

[todd210]

there is no doubt about the existence of the alpha and the beta
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wow. i do think this is nature. a alpha male with women and beta males together to support them. its just that black men are alphas and match with white women so perfectly for the best sex in nature. so as a white male we need to step aside and let this happen. penetration sex for betas isn't ideal and i think that is why we are starting to love cuckolding.

 

[SüdMandingo]

Sorry that i have to burst your Pseudoscience bubble but there is no such thing as Alpha Males & Beta Males in Humans. The Author L. David Mech who coined the term with his 1970 Book "The Wolf:Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species" studied wild captive wolves based on untrue theories from Robert Shenkel that he had about wolves and published his theories that were later debunked by scientists and himself in his book. He apologized and denounced the entire concept of Alpha Males in his 1999 Paper "Alphastatus" but it was already too late due to Media outlets , Scientists & Pseudoscientists spreading his Term & Theories into the Mainstream and adapting it to false human behaviour.

In actuality alpha males in certain species/genus like the Chimpanzes for example only reach the status as a leader/alpha if they take care of everyone by grooming or sharing their food and who solve the problems & stop the microaggressions inside the group. If the leader leads the group through aggression and dominance the group often times bands together to even end the Tyranny.

Transporting this concept into human social behaviour an Alpha Male in humans would be someone that takes care of his community, a good parent, philantroph, pacifist and so on. Basically someone like the current Bill Gates.

Sources:

1. Alphastatus.pdf
2. https://www.newscientist.com/articl...***-and-then-cannibalise-their-former-tyrant/

 

[Sam&Kay]

Sorry that i have to burst your Pseudoscience bubble but there is no such thing as Alpha Males & Beta Males in Humans. The Author L. David Mech who coined the term with his 1970 Book "The Wolf:Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species" studied wild captive wolves based on untrue theories from Robert Shenkel that he had about wolves and published his theories that were later debunked by scientists and himself in his book. He apologized and denounced the entire concept of Alpha Males in his 1999 Paper "Alphastatus" but it was already too late due to Media outlets , Scientists & Pseudoscientists spreading his Term & Theories into the Mainstream and adapting it to false human behaviour.

In actuality alpha males in certain species/genus like the Chimpanzes for example only reach the status as a leader/alpha if they take care of everyone by grooming or sharing their food and who solve the problems & stop the microaggressions inside the group. If the leader leads the group through aggression and dominance the group often times bands together to even end the Tyranny.

Transporting this concept into human social behaviour an Alpha Male in humans would be someone that takes care of his community, a good parent, philantroph, pacifist and so on. Basically someone like the current Bill Gates.

Sources:

1. Alphastatus.pdf
2. https://www.newscientist.com/articl...***-and-then-cannibalise-their-former-tyrant/

Nice work on the research. It's good to see false theories debunked.

 

[BlkGodX]

I believe that the subject of interracial cuckoldry maybe a good topic of research for anyone studying evolution and behavioural ecology, psychology and biology.

There seems to be so many white males, including myself, who would willingly abstain from penetrative sex with their white partners if they were having sex with bigger more dominant black males. This seems to counter so much of evolutionary theory and so maybe an area of interesting research.

Quite a few white cuck wannabes would actually support their wives/partners being impregnated by more powerful black males, so how does this fit in with evolutionary theory? This must be a rich area for research?

Cuckolding like any other fetish is a dopamine rush. You need more and more extreme sexual acts to get the same high of sexual pleasure because the brain gets used to increased dopamine levels.

That's why some husbands end up as sissies. They started watching interracial porn to get that naughty high and years later they are sharing their wives or in some cases sharing bbc with their wives.

Why cuckolding? Because cuckolding is like porn on steroids. Men are visual creatures. We watch porn and masturbate to it to get pleasure. We do it to get a dopamine kick. Cuckolding takes it to extreme levels.

Not only are cucks watching porn in real life but they have an emotional connection and history with one of the performers, their significant other. So not only are they getting extremely sexually turned on they are getting emotional spikes from seeing someone they care about being sexually taken. They are getting a chemical rush. They experience emotional pain, eroticism, euphoria, pleasure, sadness, happiness etc all at the same time.

Why black? It adds to the chemical rush. We are still kind of forbidden and a no no to most whites. That taboo in itself adds to the rush. Plus add in the big cock stereotype, sexual performance stereotype and you have a nice chemical cocktail swirling inside a cucks brain.

Why is it spreading? Because it feels good to all participating parties. Period.

Our society as a whole is becoming more and more sexualized with more erotic acts and fetishes being normalized. So it will be a matter of time before cuckolding and polygamy become a norm.

 

[BlkGodX]

Also the notion of cuckholdry still is not a mainstream phenomenon as it is not listed within the LGBTQ+ universe and personally I never knew that this subculture existed until I joined this site years ago.

It's only a matter of time before it's the norm. I believe we are actually on the verge of it becoming a norm. Remember interracial intimacy was frowned upon recently yet here we are.

Just look at blacked.com popularity.

 

[syscom3]

I believe that the subject of interracial cuckoldry maybe a good topic of research for anyone studying evolution and behavioural ecology, psychology and biology.

There seems to be so many white males, including myself, who would willingly abstain from penetrative sex with their white partners if they were having sex with bigger more dominant black males. This seems to counter so much of evolutionary theory and so maybe an area of interesting research.

Quite a few white cuck wannabes would actually support their wives/partners being impregnated by more powerful black males, so how does this fit in with evolutionary theory? This must be a rich area for research?

This would be a comedy, right?

 

[Anthony0542]

I believe that the subject of interracial cuckoldry maybe a good topic of research for anyone studying evolution and behavioural ecology, psychology and biology.

There seems to be so many white males, including myself, who would willingly abstain from penetrative sex with their white partners if they were having sex with bigger more dominant black males. This seems to counter so much of evolutionary theory and so maybe an area of interesting research.

Quite a few white cuck wannabes would actually support their wives/partners being impregnated by more powerful black males, so how does this fit in with evolutionary theory? This must be a rich area for research?

Welsh, you ain’t lying. I’m coming to this website from that perspective. Would love to see a study on this. Love that thread idea

 

[Anthony0542]

My wife and I agree with you about the Alpha / Beta labels, but there is no doubt for us at least about her desire for 'Alphas' and no desire for 'Betas'. Maybe its more a swagger, confidence, sexual assertiveness that some men command and other men have none. Add penis size to that equation, and the divide is even greater. Had I been born with a large cock, perhaps i'd been more confident and successful with women, thus help build a more masculine personality and have stronger male traits. I wasn't and i've never ever had sexual influence over any woman, thus added to my submissiveness, which only compounded by even more women having no interest in me, meaning less sex, meaning less confidence.

We do use the terms alpha and beta, but more in a pop psycholgy way, and use it for lack of a better term.

Slink, I always appreciate your honesty and candor on this. I really do. Great point on the alpha and beta. I think a lot of this alpha and beta stuff is very socialized. Alpha men are men that are associated with the masculinity definition of having power, having strength, toughness, able to get women, and accumulate expensive stuff....and if you don’t fit into those characteristics I can see why you might feel like a beta.

And as a beta you gotta figure out how to survive in this world, so I can see how some people take on the identity as a Cuck

It doesn’t help when you watch porn and see no one that looks like you giving women pleasure and then you see these big dicks making women do and act all sorts of ways, making them cum endlessly, and the way these women act with a big dick you just think there is no way you can please your wife like that and you desire to please your wife so much - so the easiest way to do it is be a cuck and it’s kinda hot watching it so - lets do it.

If you had a big dick, Slink. You would look at yourself totally different. It wouldn’t even be a white cuck old thing.

Big dick white cuckolds do it based on what we read in the article.

 

[Anthony0542]

Cuckolding like any other fetish is a dopamine rush. You need more and more extreme sexual acts to get the same high of sexual pleasure because the brain gets used to increased dopamine levels.

That's why some husbands end up as sissies. They started watching interracial porn to get that naughty high and years later they are sharing their wives or in some cases sharing bbc with their wives.

Why cuckolding? Because cuckolding is like porn on steroids. Men are visual creatures. We watch porn and masturbate to it to get pleasure. We do it to get a dopamine kick. Cuckolding takes it to extreme levels.

Not only are cucks watching porn in real life but they have an emotional connection and history with one of the performers, their significant other. So not only are they getting extremely sexually turned on they are getting emotional spikes from seeing someone they care about being sexually taken. They are getting a chemical rush. They experience emotional pain, eroticism, euphoria, pleasure, sadness, happiness etc all at the same time.

Why black? It adds to the chemical rush. We are still kind of forbidden and a no no to most whites. That taboo in itself adds to the rush. Plus add in the big cock stereotype, sexual performance stereotype and you have a nice chemical cocktail swirling inside a cucks brain.

Why is it spreading? Because it feels good to all participating parties. Period.

Our society as a whole is becoming more and more sexualized with more erotic acts and fetishes being normalized. So it will be a matter of time before cuckolding and polygamy become a norm.

Doctor Black, well said man. That was the best explanation for this. You nailed it. The one biological aspect we know is true is the significant dopamine rush that you get from this lifestyle.

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[hornyinmigrant]

I have no idea about evolutionary biology, but if the desire to become a cuckold has a biological basis, then wannabe cucks would have been extinct millennia ago. As a evolutionary strategy is a dead end.

I have come across two types of white cuckolds: the selfish and the altruistic. The selfish ones push their wives to fuck with blacks just to make real their own fantasies. They want white women and black men to be mere actors in their inner dramas.

The altruistic cuckold pretends to be feminist and anti-racist. It's bullshit. Most white allies' motivation doesn’t come from wanting to dismantle patriarchy and systemic racism. Their core motivations typically come from the desire to feel morally superior to other white males.

So when it comes to getting to fuck altruistic cuckolds' wives, it's important to let them think they're really into the anti-racism struggle. Fuck his beloved one really hard, answer 'yes' to anything they say and eventually they will come to think that they're better anti-racism fighter than you are. Regarding the selfish cuckolds, the more you dominate and fuck their wives, the happier they will be.

 

[aaron_80]

I have no idea about evolutionary biology, but if the desire to become a cuckold has a biological basis, then wannabe cucks would have been extinct millennia ago. As a evolutionary strategy is a dead end.

I have come across two types of white cuckolds: the selfish and the altruistic. The selfish ones push their wives to fuck with blacks just to make real their own fantasies. They want white women and black men to be mere actors in their inner dramas.

The altruistic cuckold pretends to be feminist and anti-racist. It's bullshit. Most white allies' motivation doesn’t come from wanting to dismantle patriarchy and systemic racism. Their core motivations typically come from the desire to feel morally superior to other white males.

So when it comes to getting to fuck altruistic cuckolds' wives, it's important to let them think they're really into the anti-racism struggle. Fuck his beloved one really hard, say 'yes' to anything they say and eventually they will come to think that they're better anti-racism fighter than you are. Regarding the selfish cuckolds, the more you dominate and fuck their wives, the happier they will be.

Best answer!!

 

[Randilicous]

Key and Peele, comedy geniuses!

 

[Hansjensen]

I believe that the subject of interracial cuckoldry maybe a good topic of research for anyone studying evolution and behavioural ecology, psychology and biology.

There seems to be so many white males, including myself, who would willingly abstain from penetrative sex with their white partners if they were having sex with bigger more dominant black males. This seems to counter so much of evolutionary theory and so maybe an area of interesting research.

Quite a few white cuck wannabes would actually support their wives/partners being impregnated by more powerful black males, so how does this fit in with evolutionary theory? This must be a rich area for research?

Interesting question.
The introduction of the possibility of the woman straying sexually invokes a strong response in the male, to the point that it totally alteres his behavior. Studies have shown that men can indeed become physically aroused by the mere possibility of their wife cheating on them in their absence, which is actually one of the cornerstones of the Cuckold lifestyle.



Once a husband feels these competitive forces awaken within him, he becomes singularly focused on pleasing his wife and seeking her constant approval and sexual consent. This is another simple concept that drives the Cuckold relationship. Even in relationships where the couple may not recognize why it occurs, it usually doesn't take long for them to recognize how it can affect their intimate relationship.



A husband will readily and predictably respond to the threat of competition, whether real or imagined. A wife can use that competition to help mold a sexual relationship that proves sexually satisfying for both of them, while insuring relationship stability and her husband's fidelity all at the same time.



In other words, I desire my wife much more now that she has regular sex with her black boyfriend. It's a "competition" that forces me to show a lot of romantic love. This is the way I can keep her.

My wife has a lot of very satisfying interracial sex with her black lover, and she gets a lot of romantic love from her husband. She says that she has a perfect life.

 

[SüdMandingo]

This Thread exemplifies the term "selective perception" -> confirmation bias. Just because you think that the fetish Cuckolding & Interracial is extremely popular and totally rising does not mean that it actually is. You have to back every Hypothesis that you have with actual evidence. Here are the actual top searches of 2018 based on pornhubs statistics:



The top search terms on pornhub 2018:



The top search categories on pornhub 2018:



(It would of course have been useful to have more stats from xHamster & xVideos to match & compare the results. However, they do not offer any.)

Cuckolding related terms are slowly rising according to a pornhub statistic of 2013 - 2016 but not on a huge scale.


The conclusion is that Cuckolding combined with interracial Sex isn't as big as you think it is. You just surround your self daily inside that fetish which flawes your perception.


Site comparisons:

Pornhub -> 3.3 B total visitors
Brazzers -> 33.28 M total visitors
Blacked - > 9.73 M total visitors
Blacktowhite -> 1.52 M total visitors

You can use Alexa to further analyse the daily site traffic.

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Sources:

1. https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2018-year-in-review#searches

2. https://www.pornhub.com/insights/cuckold

3. https://www.similarweb.com/website/pornhub.com

4. https://www.similarweb.com/website/brazzers.com

5. https://www.similarweb.com/website/blacked.com

6. https://www.similarweb.com/website/blacktowhite.net

 

[StevieGirl]

It fits if you believe that white boys are innately weak and submissive, and that black men are innately masculine and sexually dominant. Works for me.