Having read that Donald Trump thread

Also if Trump had the unquestionable powers of an Emperor similar to Kim Jung-Un who is considered as a life-long ruler, why is Pelosi still in the House of Representatives and not renditioned into a gulag somewhere? And if Trump had such dictatorial powers how is it that you @MacNfries, @subhub174014 , and @BlkCumsHeavy can freely criticize him without penalty? A true dictator would do what they could to eliminate various privileges you take for granted?


I'm sure he would like to......after all his work on trying to censor the press......his "payback" at anyone who testifies against him....look at Col Vindman…..Hillary and the McCabe....wants them both in jail.....no he is trying to be a fucking dictator.....look at the gal that laughed at jeff sessions during a speech....she is/was serving time....it goes on.....his reign of terror will end...…..but he is trying to hang on....after got Russia involved again to assure his chances...….I'm sure they will spend millions building him up and trashing the dems
 
Trump a Russian plant? You got proof?

The House didn’t, Mueller didn’t and the corrupt FBI conspirators, didn’t. Or more importantly- Dems could not manufacture believable fake “evidence,” not even when Hillary paid Russia for it.

This Dem Failed coup cost a billion tax dollars. All because the Dems can't accept they lost an election they thought that they had already won or cheated enough to win.

Ahhhh Russia! Russia! Russia! The new Bogyman since the Dems, that Russians own, didn’t win. I wonder which Dems, besides BO and Hillary, took more money from Russia?


Facts
Every witness Dems call admitted they were not on the call or near the call. – The whole thing Made UP

Every Dem witness admitted they could not provide proof nor name a single crime Trump committed. - So all Made UP

Every Dem witness would not stand under oath and say Trump should be Impeached and/or committed a crime- So All Made UP

Even Nadler's joke, the left wing professors would not.

Every Witness is a Dem support- So all made up

Can you say Epic Democrat Fail?

The sad part- your so brainwashed you didn’t even know that. Just spewing the democrat propaganda your government media tells you. You should be embarrassed that you bought this Democrat coup, but not you. No, you double down and keep doubling down.



you really have been mind fucked...……..get you head out of the sand....and wake up!
 
I back mine up when needed or called for
Sometimes an opinion is just something subjective @subhub174014 . Theoretically we can both go to Vegas and play the Roulette wheel. You can compose lengthy essays illustrating and proving with a variety of Statistical methods that the next spin would result in a red. But it could just as easily be Black? Same thing goes for November 2020 where I stated for over 3 years now on these political threads that Trump would be re-elected. It was an opinion that I had since that point in time that I knew, but I could not prove at that time. Seeing you are so exacting with your methods perhaps you could illuminate us as to what the next Powerball numbers will be? Once they play after you called them in advance, I'd be eagerly reading every letter of the methods you used in your accurate prediction @subhub174014 . 👀 🤑
 
what....not a fucking thing said has any validity to it...…...it has never been real credible......just out your ass statements!

Take off your blinders. Go watch the witness testimony when the Republicans were questioning them. Every single witness called was not in the room when the call was made, not on the call, and would not swear Trump broke the law when asked to under Oath. In fact the "key Witness" and several others said Trump said, "There is to be no Quid Pro Quo." Before that, Mueller himself said they did not have any evidence. What he meant to say is the Dems/Hillary bought bad fake "evidence" from the Russians. By the way neither of the charges were a crime against Trump. Both of Clinton's impeachment were actual crimes.

The Dems had nothing and they knew it. This was political theater in hopes if they lie enough people will believe. That is why Schiff made that Mob story up in his opening at the witness testimony and then back tracked after the Media would not run with his fantasy. They knew that would get them bankrupted in court. Before Trump was in office the Dems were saying they had to impeach him to beat him.
 



I can read....something you need to do and learn instead of waiting for the RNC publication to tell you what to think....here educate your self....oh ******* forgot you are a trumptard and already overfull!

I already took the time to look up each statement and post a link with it.....I know to hard for you to follow and more than your attention span can hold


The Trump Kleptocracy
The presidency is officially a cash grab — and a pitstop on the way to autocracy


The convictions of Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen this August shined a light on the type of people Trump chooses to work with. He said he’d employ the “best people”; instead, he employed crooks.

Trump is Leading the Most Corrupt Administration in U.S ...
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Trump is Leading the Most Corrupt Administration in U.S. History, One of First-Class Kleptocrats . By Alexander Nazaryan On 11/02/17 at 9:54 AM EDT . Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump ...

Behind all the outrage, the Manafort and Cohen convictions show that Trump’s government is building an American kleptocracy. The Washington Post has described how kleptocracy, or “rule by thieves,” arises when a country’s elite begin to systematically steal from public funds on a vast scale.

This is where the United States is headed. Trump’s government is powered by people who want to see tax cuts for their own benefit, without a care for the cost to others. This runs from voters backing pro-tax-cut candidates to the upper echelons of the GOP that are complicit in what Fortune magazine is calling “the biggest wealth grab in modern history.”

Trump Tax Plan Benefits Wealthy, Including Trump - The New ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/us/politics/trump-tax-plan-wealthy-middle-class...
Sep 27, 2017 · The plan would also benefit Mr. Trump and other affluent Americans by eliminating the estate tax, which affects just a few thousand uber-wealthy families each year, and the alternative minimum tax ...


It is far from the first time a person like Trump has run a country. History may determine it was inevitable that the United States would go the way of countries like Russia, Turkey, China, and many others, electing a leader who could facilitate transferring the country’s wealth to a small number of private individuals. The thing about kleptocracy is that it doesn’t need to break the law because those doing it are writing the law—but the outcome is the same.

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Trump was helped to power by a conspiracy of billionaires, including Vladimir Poroshenko and Robert Mercer. From this angle, you could argue that while the Russian attack on American democracy was partly political, it was mainly just about business. After all, the Russian government is a mafia gang for whom international politics is a business operation. By helping to power a man they helped make rich, they can weaken one of the main international obstacles to their own efforts to drain Russia of cash.

Unequal Russia: is anger stirring in the global capital of ...
https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/apr/25/unequal-russia-is-anger-stirring-in...


This presidency is but a brief window to grab as much cash as possible before being inevitably booted back out.

The extent of Trump’s kleptocracy is becoming clear now, with his second proposed tax cut for the rich. The Trump government is ramping up the national debt by $1.5 trillion over 10 years while taking hundreds of billions of dollars out of the economy in tax cuts for the rich. In America, around two-thirds of all stocks and mutual funds are owned by just 5 percent of the people, and any tax-cut benefits for corporations will mainly just benefit that group. It is estimated that 34 percent of Trump’s December tax cuts benefit just the top 1 percent of the country’s rich.

US national debt rises $2 trillion under President Trump
fox43.com/2019/01/04/us-national-debt-rises-2-trillion-under-president-trump/

Yet as he cuts taxes for a rich minority, Trump is also freezing public sector pay because there’s not enough money.

As Forbes magazine observed:
President Trump has cancelled the pay increases for public sector workers that were due to take effect in January 2019. His reason for doing so? The tax cuts that his administration has introduced are set to create the largest fiscal deficit since the Great Recession. Now this largesse has to be paid for.

In effect, his tax bills have taken money out of the economy and primarily redistributed it to corporations, CEOs, and the super rich.
This is not about Republican political ideology, and it is not mere economic incompetence. It is bare-faced kleptocracy. For Trump, his family, and the less principled crooks around him, this presidency is but a brief window to grab as much cash as possible before being inevitably booted back out of the White House. They’re like a bunch of ******* getting the keys to the world’s biggest candy store without any adults around to supervise them.


To understand the situation with more clarity, look at Russia, which is a more advanced version of what Trump seems to be building. In 2013, the Independent reported that just 110 people held one-third of Russia’s wealth.

The story of modern Russia is that of a massive transfer of wealth from the country to a small ruling elite. According to sociologist and expert on Russia, Elisabeth Schimpfossl, “When this first post-Soviet generation passes its wealth on… it will be the single biggest transfer of assets within the smallest group of people ever to have occurred.”

Beyond the human cost of kleptocracy is the danger that progressively draining the country of money creates the sort of inequality that leads to social and political unrest.

Russia’s kleptocracy has laundered hundreds of billions of dollars out of the country over the years. Meanwhile, Poroshenko’s latest attempt to increase the pension age means most Russian men will die before they are eligible for a state pension.

Most Russians, especially the elderly, are already living in a state of perpetual poverty. This reflects two stark realities: First, there is not enough money left in the Russian state coffers to pay pensions, and second, Russian men have a low life expectancy—arguably because the theft of its kleptocratic government means there is not enough money for health care, education, and the other things people need.

The average life expectancy in Russia is in the mid-sixties, but that’s an average many men fall short of. If all the money tied up in former state enterprises, and then in Russian oil and gas, had flowed back into a well-managed economy run by an honest and effective government, Russian life expectancy would have gone up, people would have adequate health care and education.

The same thing is now happening in the United States. Policies designed to protect the population—but which restrict businesses from making more money—are being abandoned.

Until now, the West was characterized by progress, which in a simple sense can be reflected in life expectancy. As countries become more efficient and effective, they generate more tax, and this is used to support better health care, education, and enforcement of laws that protect the population from harm.


Banning dangerous practices, such as the use of asbestos in building materials and lead in petrol, and introducing public health actions like immunization, universal health care, seatbelt laws, and smoking bans may negatively impact businesses, but it positively impacts people, which should be the point of government. People on their own cannot ******* rich and powerful corporations to stop harming them; they rely on the government to do that.

How the Trump Administration Pulled Back on Regulating ...
https://e360.yale.edu/features/how- trump-administration-has-pulled-back-on-regulating...
The Trump administration has halted bans on toxic chemicals that are known to cause serious health threats. These moves, led by an ex-industry group executive now at the EPA, have allowed the continued use of products found to cause cancer, birth defects, and other ailments.

One of the simplest functions of any government is to ensure the people are afforded some degree of protection against the excesses of corporations and criminals, at least to the extent those excesses do not negatively impact life expectancy.

But, alarmingly, life expectancy is going down in the United States, primarily because the government is putting commercial and personal financial interests ahead of the health and well-being of its citizens.

Beyond the human cost of kleptocracy is the danger that progressively draining the country of money creates the sort of
inequality that leads to social and political unrest. This results in political instability and ever-increasing authoritarianism to keep order.

U.S. income inequality at highest level in 50 years ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-income-inequality-highest-level-50-years...
Sep 26, 2019 · — The gap between the haves and have-nots in the United States grew last year to its highest level in more than 50 years of tracking income inequality, according to Census Bureau figures.

Trump is increasingly undermining the media and law enforcement because those are the two main tools a state has to prevent kleptocracy.

The Trump Administration's Treatment Of Law Enforcement ...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-current-administrations-treatment-of- law...
Jun 16, 2017 · Comey was not the first high ranking law enforcement official to be fired unexpectedly by the Trump administration. In March, Preet Bharara was fired from his position as United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, even though President Trump had personally told him he would stay. Mr. Bharara oversaw a prosecutor’s office ...


As Russia, Turkey, and Venezuela have shown, kleptocrats use nationalism and populism to keep their base because they cannot use economic progress to win votes. They blame foreign governments, conspiracies, and immigrants for the failures actually caused by their own wholesale theft of the country’s assets.


They blame a biased media, foreign propaganda, and “enemies of the people,” when the news explains what is happening. Meanwhile, they counter the truth with media they control—which either doesn’t say what is happening, tells lies, or distracts people from reality. Gradually, the economy unwinds and the social problems caused by these policies collide with the diminished public services that can no longer deal with them.

'Enemy of the People': Trump's hatred of the press is for ...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/30/donald-trump-hatred-press-enemy...
Oct 30, 2018 · Donald Trump's hatred of the press, lies and bullying echoes dangerous regimes of the past Trump uses attacks on the media, totalitarian language, cartoonish conspiracy fictions and a …


This is how nationalism and populism become fascism.

Relaxing regulations on things that harm people puts added pressure on the health care system.

The increase in sickness reduces the performance of the economy. The resulting increase in social deprivation leads to an increase in crime. Conventional policing is underfunded and undermined by an increasingly corrupt and weakened judiciary, so laws become more draconian and policing becomes
more militarized.

Trump has altered over 800 Obama-era regulations, Wilbur ...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/13/...
Oct 13, 2017 · Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said Friday that President Trump is “systematically” removing hundreds of regulations put in place by the Obama …

The kleptocratic policies continue to break things in a self-perpetuating cycle. The corrupt rich become even more rich, while the rest of the country becomes even more poor. The inequality leads to unrest, which is managed by ever more propaganda, less freedom, more control and censorship, and harsher policing.

Perpetually blaming others creates an ever-increasing need to find scapegoats, which spills over into outright attacks on minority groups or on foreign governments. We have seen this with Russia’s wars, used to distract people from local economic hardships. Turkey and Venezuela have blamed the United States, Hungary blames immigrants, and generally, every would-be dictator will blame anyone but themselves.

This is how a democracy becomes a kleptocracy, and then an autocracy, and then a dictatorship. This is how nationalism and populism become fascism.

Kleptocratic leaders become trapped in a cycle of their own making. The more wealth they amass, the worse things get for the poor, the harsher the steps they take to maintain order and power. They reach a point where they are so wealthy, and the people around them are so angry, that losing power would mean losing their wealth and, likely, their lives.

Although I doubt Trump could bring about a dictatorship like this, we are already looking at a situation where he could face criminal prosecution once he leaves office. This provides a powerful incentive for him to take more drastic measures to stay in power, weaken or corrupt the legal system that could later prosecute him, and muddy the media’s ability to report on his kleptocracy. He will probably fail, but not before he does immense damage to the United States.
 



have you provided anything but lip service...….and not very good at that...….just rash statements in support of your false god....you probably don't get down out of the hills often enough to know and see what is going on...….jump on that burrow and ride into town and see how things are there....i'm sure things are fine in the hills but the rest of the country is living and seeing the facts
 
you are a science denier. A fetus is a baby. No nefarious action taken
And no where have I said a fetus is NOT a baby. Show me where I said THAT? My reference was with the embryo, still a baby, to some degree, as and I were discussing WHEN it would be right to abort. She said (or he said rather, whatever) to be specific when LIFE started. That was the discussion WE were having then you interrupt with your BS about my implying a fetus is not a baby. My point is, and still is if you're not going to stay specific to the discussion Nina and I were having, butt OUT. Most doctors agree a baby can survive on its own, outside the womb, around the 22nd week ... my point, regarding abortion was "up to 12 weeks" regarding negotiating the Right to Life Or Choice.

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yep.....Russian plant!


‘The Russians are at it again’: Joy Behar slams Trump and ...
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"U.S. intelligence warns that Russia is meddling in the 2020 election, duh! And they want to keep Trump in office, double-duh!" Behar's comments come a day after the New York Times reported a...

Trump dismisses Russian election meddling, doesn't see ...
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Trump dismisses Russian election meddling, doesn't see 'any reason' for it. President Trump said Monday he has yet to see any compelling reason why Russia would have interfered in the 2016 election, contradicting his own intelligence chief who warned over the weekend that Moscow has become the “most aggressive” perpetrator of cybercrime globally.
 
Well, it wasn't particularly pretty, but it worked. Mac and I avoided the worst of polarization and arrived at middle ground on one of the most contentious subjects in politics: Right to Life vs Abortion.
  • the Left (Mac) agrees that abortion would be restricted to the first 12 weeks (approximately the first trimester) in cases of heinous social evil; *******, childhood *******, etc.).
  • the Right (nanci) agrees that children born to difficult circumstances (potential abortion candidates) would be provided on-going social care (health, education, etc.).
  • The details of this agreement would run to hundreds of pages and I will let my subordinates in the Nanzi Party negotiate those.
This is progress in that Right to Life/Abortion is a debate of extremes. It requires the willingness to compromise fundamental values for the greater value of social order -- although Mac and nanci have little in common, we share a desire for a functional political system.

The first step is agreeing to have a civil debate, which is in itself, a value of social order.
 
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Just search, copy, paste


that would be called backing up what I say with facts.....instead of just pushing Hillbilly interpretations with nothing but lip service stating you know anything



funny how people don't like being shown they are wrong....and just go into more ramblings....and still no facts
 
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And no where have I said a fetus is NOT a baby. Show me where I said THAT? My reference was with the embryo, still a baby, to some degree, as and I were discussing WHEN it would be right to abort. She said (or he said rather, whatever) to be specific when LIFE started. That was the discussion WE were having then you interrupt with your BS about my implying a fetus is not a baby. My point is, and still is if you're not going to stay specific to the discussion Nina and I were having, butt OUT. Most doctors agree a baby can survive on its own, outside the womb, around the 22nd week ... my point, regarding abortion was "up to 12 weeks" regarding negotiating the Right to Life Or Choice.

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1- Well you just proved it. Your ego won't let you see it.
2- You and subhub always trying to control the public form and then being butt hurt when your whines are blown off or someone calls you on your juvenile understanding of a topic.

I jumped in on your point about common ground. This only included abortion because that is your example. I was pointing to your statements and your smugness. You basically asserted " If you don't agree with me on this, therefore you must agree with me on this laundry list of my political feelings or I will dehumanized and shame you." No actually I don't.

This pervasive thinking you keep posting is why I call you out. You and people like you want freedom when it fits your beliefs and expect the government to ******* people, who you don't agree with, to either think like you or get out or worse. That is the same thinking that brought geocidal leftist statist governments to power in 30's Germany and Russia and countless others. That is the thinking of envy that leads to intolerance and later worse.
 
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