Having read that Donald Trump thread

[BBC4pussy]

Exactly ! It is beyond your way of thinking. Alpha Males are a mystery to you.

so lying is a sign of being a Alpha, man you are dumb aren't you. News flash in case you did not know, a strong alpha male does not lie, does not blame others for their mistake, they take responsibility and correct their mistakes. But you being a simp (beta male ) dont know of these qualities, because in your mind lying makes you strong, and it is that trait you have that will ensure you will continue to be a Beta male.

 

[BBC4pussy]

You do realize Republicans make up about 1/3 of the population of the US. And right leaning people make up about half of the US Population. And all of those people have say.

MacNfries- If you believe your support of Abortion is so wide spread why are you so afraid of over turning Roe V Wade? Because you know over half the country does not support it or supports it after only a few weeks. That includes both Men and Women. You know, or you should know, the case law is wrong and was a liberal court jumping over it’s Constitutional authority. And if you are up on current event you should also know the case plaintiff was a fraud. The case predication is all made up by her.

If you are so confident in the support for abortion, why do you guys fight transparency around abortion? Why did you all fight so hard, using liberal judges, to prevent the legislation that requires women, wanting to ******* their babies, to watch a video or read a document showing the abortion before they can ******* the baby? I bet if high school ******* saw the procedure abortion support would drop to almost zero.

You support excluding male taxpayers because most abortionist know men will NOT support taxpayer funded baby killing and overly entitled women from escaping accountability for their behaviors. But strange how strong independent women and a billion dollar "charity" need taxpayers to cover the cost of their bad behavior or poor decisions.

It is telling how hard you all fight to place legal stops to prevent the “fathers” from having the right to not have to financially support the women if she decides not to ******* the baby. If the woman has the right to choose if the baby lives or dies and the ******* has no say, shouldn’t he have the right not to pay for the support?

"If you are so confident in the support for abortion, why do you guys fight transparency around abortion? Why did you all fight so hard, using liberal judges, to prevent the legislation that requires women, wanting to ******* their babies, to watch a video or read a document showing the abortion before they can ******* the baby? I bet if high school ******* saw the procedure abortion support would drop to almost zero. "

Because no ones health decisions is your business and what you gives you or anyone else the right to tell anyone what they can do with their body, go ahead give me some of that twisted conservative logic, kind of like trying to put a square peg in a round hole with you types.

 

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The presidency is officially a cash grab — and a pitstop on the way to autocracy

The convictions of Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen this August shined a light on the type of people Trump chooses to work with. He said he’d employ the “best people”; instead, he employed crooks.

Behind all the outrage, the Manafort and Cohen convictions show that Trump’s government is building an American kleptocracy. The Washington Post has described how kleptocracy, or “rule by thieves,” arises when a country’s elite begin to systematically steal from public funds on a vast scale.

This is where the United States is headed. Trump’s government is powered by people who want to see tax cuts for their own benefit, without a care for the cost to others. This runs from voters backing pro-tax-cut candidates to the upper echelons of the GOP that are complicit in what Fortune magazine is calling “the biggest wealth grab in modern history.”

It is far from the first time a person like Trump has run a country. History may determine it was inevitable that the United States would go the way of countries like Russia, Turkey, China, and many others, electing a leader who could facilitate transferring the country’s wealth to a small number of private individuals. The thing about kleptocracy is that it doesn’t need to break the law because those doing it are writing the law—but the outcome is the same.

Trump was helped to power by a conspiracy of billionaires, including Vladimir Poroshenko and Robert Mercer. From this angle, you could argue that while the Russian attack on American democracy was partly political, it was mainly just about business. After all, the Russian government is a mafia gang for whom international politics is a business operation. By helping to power a man they helped make rich, they can weaken one of the main international obstacles to their own efforts to drain Russia of cash.


This presidency is but a brief window to grab as much cash as possible before being inevitably booted back out.

The extent of Trump’s kleptocracy is becoming clear now, with his second proposed tax cut for the rich. The Trump government is ramping up the national debt by $1.5 trillion over 10 years while taking hundreds of billions of dollars out of the economy in tax cuts for the rich. In America, around two-thirds of all stocks and mutual funds are owned by just 5 percent of the people, and any tax-cut benefits for corporations will mainly just benefit that group. It is estimated that 34 percent of Trump’s December tax cuts benefit just the top 1 percent of the country’s rich.

Yet as he cuts taxes for a rich minority, Trump is also freezing public sector pay because there’s not enough money. As Forbes magazine observed:

President Trump has cancelled the pay increases for public sector workers that were due to take effect in January 2019. His reason for doing so? The tax cuts that his administration has introduced are set to create the largest fiscal deficit since the Great Recession. Now this largesse has to be paid for.

In effect, his tax bills have taken money out of the economy and primarily redistributed it to corporations, CEOs, and the super rich.
This is not about Republican political ideology, and it is not mere economic incompetence. It is bare-faced kleptocracy. For Trump, his family, and the less principled crooks around him, this presidency is but a brief window to grab as much cash as possible before being inevitably booted back out of the White House. They’re like a bunch of ******* getting the keys to the world’s biggest candy store without any adults around to supervise them.


To understand the situation with more clarity, look at Russia, which is a more advanced version of what Trump seems to be building. In 2013, the Independent reported that just 110 people held one-third of Russia’s wealth.

The story of modern Russia is that of a massive transfer of wealth from the country to a small ruling elite. According to sociologist and expert on Russia, Elisabeth Schimpfossl, “When this first post-Soviet generation passes its wealth on… it will be the single biggest transfer of assets within the smallest group of people ever to have occurred.”

Beyond the human cost of kleptocracy is the danger that progressively draining the country of money creates the sort of inequality that leads to social and political unrest.

Russia’s kleptocracy has laundered hundreds of billions of dollars out of the country over the years. Meanwhile, Poroshenko’s latest attempt to increase the pension age means most Russian men will die before they are eligible for a state pension.

Most Russians, especially the elderly, are already living in a state of perpetual poverty. This reflects two stark realities: First, there is not enough money left in the Russian state coffers to pay pensions, and second, Russian men have a low life expectancy—arguably because the theft of its kleptocratic government means there is not enough money for health care, education, and the other things people need.

The average life expectancy in Russia is in the mid-sixties, but that’s an average many men fall short of. If all the money tied up in former state enterprises, and then in Russian oil and gas, had flowed back into a well-managed economy run by an honest and effective government, Russian life expectancy would have gone up, people would have adequate health care and education.

The same thing is now happening in the United States. Policies designed to protect the population—but which restrict businesses from making more money—are being abandoned.



Until now, the West was characterized by progress, which in a simple sense can be reflected in life expectancy. As countries become more efficient and effective, they generate more tax, and this is used to support better health care, education, and enforcement of laws that protect the population from harm.

Banning dangerous practices, such as the use of asbestos in building materials and lead in petrol, and introducing public health actions like immunization, universal health care, seatbelt laws, and smoking bans may negatively impact businesses, but it positively impacts people, which should be the point of government. People on their own cannot ******* rich and powerful corporations to stop harming them; they rely on the government to do that.

One of the simplest functions of any government is to ensure the people are afforded some degree of protection against the excesses of corporations and criminals, at least to the extent those excesses do not negatively impact life expectancy.

But, alarmingly, life expectancy is going down in the United States, primarily because the government is putting commercial and personal financial interests ahead of the health and well-being of its citizens.


Beyond the human cost of kleptocracy is the danger that progressively draining the country of money creates the sort of inequality that leads to social and political unrest. This results in political instability and ever-increasing authoritarianism to keep order.

Trump is increasingly undermining the media and law enforcement because those are the two main tools a state has to prevent kleptocracy.

As Russia, Turkey, and Venezuela have shown, kleptocrats use nationalism and populism to keep their base because they cannot use economic progress to win votes. They blame foreign governments, conspiracies, and immigrants for the failures actually caused by their own wholesale theft of the country’s assets.


They blame a biased media, foreign propaganda, and “enemies of the people,” when the news explains what is happening. Meanwhile, they counter the truth with media they control—which either doesn’t say what is happening, tells lies, or distracts people from reality. Gradually, the economy unwinds and the social problems caused by these policies collide with the diminished public services that can no longer deal with them.

This is how nationalism and populism become fascism.

Relaxing regulations on things that harm people puts added pressure on the health care system.

The increase in sickness reduces the performance of the economy. The resulting increase in social deprivation leads to an increase in crime. Conventional policing is underfunded and undermined by an increasingly corrupt and weakened judiciary, so laws become more draconian and policing becomes more militarized.


The kleptocratic policies continue to break things in a self-perpetuating cycle. The corrupt rich become even more rich, while the rest of the country becomes even more poor. The inequality leads to unrest, which is managed by ever more propaganda, less freedom, more control and censorship, and harsher policing.

Perpetually blaming others creates an ever-increasing need to find scapegoats, which spills over into outright attacks on minority groups or on foreign governments. We have seen this with Russia’s wars, used to distract people from local economic hardships. Turkey and Venezuela have blamed the United States, Hungary blames immigrants, and generally, every would-be dictator will blame anyone but themselves.

This is how a democracy becomes a kleptocracy, and then an autocracy, and then a dictatorship. This is how nationalism and populism become fascism.

Kleptocratic leaders become trapped in a cycle of their own making. The more wealth they amass, the worse things get for the poor, the harsher the steps they take to maintain order and power. They reach a point where they are so wealthy, and the people around them are so angry, that losing power would mean losing their wealth and, likely, their lives.

Although I doubt Trump could bring about a dictatorship like this, we are already looking at a situation where he could face criminal prosecution once he leaves office. This provides a powerful incentive for him to take more drastic measures to stay in power, weaken or corrupt the legal system that could later prosecute him, and muddy the media’s ability to report on his kleptocracy. He will probably fail, but not before he does immense damage to the United States.

 

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The Republican Party Is as Guilty as Trump

Until they openly declare war on his presidency, his ongoing assault on our democracy is just as much their fault as his.

Every time it seems as though the firewall of apologists protecting Donald Trump might crumble, Republican politicians let us down over and over. In an interview Sunday, one of Trump’s top Republican allies, Sen. Lindsey Graham, was asked in an interview whether he was open-minded about supporting impeachment if damning evidence of Trump’s wrongdoing was to emerge. Graham said, “If you could show me that, you know, Trump actually was engaging in a quid pro quo outside the phone call, that would be very disturbing.”

But just two days later, the high-ranking senator stood by Trump as the president used the most vile language in reference to his impeachment, saying on Twitter, “All Republicans must remember what they are witnessing here — a lynching.” In response, Graham said to reporters, “This is a lynching, in every sense.” He did not say, “This is a symbolic lynching,” or “In some sense, this is a lynching.” (Even those terms would have been unacceptable given the history of quintessentially American racist terror the word references). But Graham said, “in every sense,” this was a lynching of President Trump, implying that even in literal terms, Trump was, in his view, being strung up on a tree by a racist mob and murdered by hanging. Just as other high-ranking Republicans have done in the past, Graham went even further than Trump himself to defend him and his conduct. Are not all of Trump’s supporters as guilty of the president’s wrongdoing as he is?


There has been a mass exodus by Republicans from office and even the party the past two years, strongly suggesting that Trump’s politics are too much for party members to tolerate. Among the earliest was the ambitious Republican star and former House Speaker Paul Ryan, who criticized Trump and then chose to retire, saying, “We’re making really good progress on a lot of signature issues” — as if Trump’s destructiveness were a small price to pay for Ryan’s chief economic concerns such as lowering taxes for the wealthy. Other high-profile lawmakers followed, including Sen. Bob Corker, who had been openly critical of Trump but then retired without speaking out. Sen. Jeff Flake also spoke up loudly against Trump but also chose to retire. House Republican Justin Amash became the first GOP congressman to say that Trump had met the standard for impeachment. He did so in May, before Democrats launched their formal impeachment inquiry — and then made a bold stand by actually leaving the party. Sen. Mitt Romney is the highest-ranking Republican senator who remains in the party and who has spoken out strongly against Trump. According to Axios, Romney explained in an interview that “conservatives are trying to maintain the perception of a united front to voters so as not to risk internal shakeups that could lose them the Senate or Oval Office.”


And there you have it. Fear of losing political gains has kept that Republican firewall around Trump strong regardless of what party members think of the president in private. The real reason Trump continues to be tolerated by his fellow Republicans is because he is delivering on the kind of economic reforms they are counting on. They see the rising tide of anti-capitalist populism in the country as Americans are fed up with the rich getting richer. They see the very real prospects of a Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren presidential election in 2020. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell knows that backing Trump unequivocally has given conservatives the chance to install two out of nine Supreme Court justices and win long-term right-wing influence in the nation’s highest court. He understands that lowering corporate tax rates is worth the price of keeping Trump in the White House. While Trump is destroying the Republican Party, the Republican Party is destroying America.


Does it really matter if there is a secret resistance to Trump from within his party or even his cabinet? In September 2018, a person claiming to work for Trump wrote an anonymous op-ed in The New York Times saying that she or he was “part of the resistance” and had “vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.” Now, more than a year later, that same person is apparently publishing a tell-all book called “A Warning,” as a follow-up to the op-ed. But why continue to remain unnamed? Although anonymous resistance is better than no resistance, if Trump’s horrendous damage to the country over the past year is what has survived the internal thwarting of his agenda by so-called resisters, then their efforts have been in vain.


Several people have asserted that if an impeachment trial were held in the Senate in secret, a large percentage of Republicans would vote to remove the president. Flake estimated that 35 would do so, while an unnamed Republican politician told Fox News’ Chris Wallace that there was a 20% chance of the GOP voting to end Trump’s presidency. But Republicans ought to have the courage to voice their opposition in public. Trump thrives on an impression of compliance and loyalty. He may suspect that Republicans are secretly turning against him, but if that resistance to him remains secret, it matters little. All he cares about is the perception of obedience and the view that he is winning no matter what e does.


One group, Republicans for the Rule of Law, has been working hard to expose Trump and encourage the GOP to take him on. They have operated openly without hiding who they are and are now calling on Romney to “pry the Republican Party from President Trump’s hands.” While their efforts are admirable, it remains to be seen if Republicans who are disgusted with Trump will take its advice.


With the testimony of the acting U.S. ambassador to Ukraine William Taylor confirming that Trump engaged in a quid pro quo to exact political dirt from Ukraine in exchange for military aid, one might imagine that Sen. Graham would stay true to his claim that he might consider impeachment if such a thing could be proved. But Graham, like McConnell and others, appears to have made the cold calculation that a guilty Republican in the White House is better than any Democrat.


Trump got into office because Republicans allowed it, and he remains in office because Republicans continue to allow it. Until they openly declare war on his presidency, his ongoing assault on our democracy is just as much their fault as his. He remains in office at their whim. They are his enablers, the facilitators of his evil. The stink of Trump’s racist and misogynist hate, abject dishonesty and flagrant impunity over laws and the U.S. Constitution ought to follow every Trump supporter inside or outside government for the rest of their lives. The only way to save their soul from the complicity that history books will surely capture is to disavow him, and to do so now when it matters.

The Republican Party Is as Guilty as Trump

Until they openly declare war on his presidency, his ongoing assault on our democracy is just as much their fault as his.

www.commondreams.org

 

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This Level of Corruption Is Unprecedented in the Modern History of the Presidency

And it's threatening our democracy.


The important part about dealing with epidemics is to deal with them early. Just like the fire department would really rather come into a building when there was smoke coming out of one window instead of when there are flames coming out of every window, because it's a lot easier to control the fire early on, it's much easier to control an epidemic early on.


It's almost as though the entire bureaucratic immune system of the government is reacting to an invading virus. The worst thing any of us can do is assume that the ascent of El Caudillo del Mar-A-Lago was not the sui generis event that it clearly was, and that he, himself, is not the sui generis occupant of the White House that he clearly is, and that he has not surrounded himself with dubious quacks and hacks that are sui generis in their approach to government as they clearly are.


There is a level of intellectual—and, perhaps, literal—corruption that is unprecedented in the modern history of the presidency and that is a genuine and unique threat to democratic institutions that are the objects of destructive contempt. The man ran on chaos. He won on chaos. And now he's governing on chaos. The checks and balances and safety valves of the Constitution—the things that, well, constitute—the immune system of this self-governing republic are facing a threat that is as different as it is lethal.


The man ran on chaos. He won on chaos. And now he's governing on chaos.


The latest manifestation of this phenomenon is the sudden firing of U.S. Attorneys all over the country—specifically, those appointed by the previous administration. It is true that every president can do what this president did, and that most have. But the people who said all through the campaign that the rules changed with the elevation of Donald Trump cannot say that the rules are back now that he's president. In addition, what he did on Friday was precipitous in the extreme and so much so that it seems to have been improvised on the spot, and that it might have been prompted by a virulent paranoia at the White House about "deep-state" saboteurs, a feeling encouraged by the hardbar caucus in Congress and pimped heavily by the conservative media auxiliaries.


By contrast, in 2009, the newly elected Barack Obama put his U.S. Attorneys in place, but he didn't fire all of the incumbent ones all at once without having the faintest idea who their replacements might be. And this was in the wake of the naked politicization of the DOJ during the Bush Administration. From Tiger Beat On The Potomac:


"I expect that we'll have an announcement in the next couple of weeks with regard to our first batch of U.S attorneys," Holder said Thursday during a House Judiciary Committee hearing which stretched out over most of the day due to breaks for members' votes. "One of the things that we didn't want to do was to disrupt the continuity of the offices and pull people out of positions where we thought there might be a danger that that might have on the continuity—the effectiveness of the offices. But...elections matter—it is our intention to have the U.S. Attorneys that are selected by President Obama in place as quickly as they can." Holder's comments begin to resolve questions in the legal community about whether the new administration would hesitate to replace the chief prosecutors en masse because of the intense controversy that surrounded President George W. Bush's unusual mid-term replacement of nine U.S. attorneys in late 2006. In addition, legal sources said some Bush appointees were looking to burrow in, in part to avoid a grim economic climate for private-sector legal jobs."


But, as we are relentlessly told by people who are whistling past a considerable graveyard, Donald Trump is different. He certainly is. Already, there are serious questions about his violations of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution, about how and where he got his money, about how seriously we should take his claim to have divorced himself from his business interests, and about the precise relationship he has with kleptocrats the world over, especially in Russia. In that context, his decision all at once to decapitate the Justice Department at the local level takes on a more sinister character.


And then there's the case of Preet Bhahara, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and the scourge of the money power in New York City, which definitely includes the current president* of the United States. The man was the swamp-drainer supreme. The situation with Bharhara already is stranger than usual. In the first place, a week ago, Attorney General Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III had asked Bhahara to stay on. Also, Bhahara has a number of investigations that may or may not hit too close to home at the White House, including one involving Fox News. And, as has become customary with this administration, the whole matter was handled with the delicacy of a monkey trying to fck a football. From The Washington Post:


Within the Justice Department, some are questioning whether a recent phone call from Trump to Bharara may have contributed to the decision to remove the Obama holdovers, according to a person familiar with the matter. On Thursday, a White House aide called and left a message for Bharara, saying the president wanted to speak with him, though the prospective topic of discussion was unclear. Bharara consulted his staff and determined that it would probably be a violation of Justice Department protocols for him to speak directly to the president, this person said. That protocol exists in order to prevent political interference—or the appearance of political interference — with Justice Department work.


He's shaking up Washington! He's exploding political norms! He's also lighting his own pants on fire. By forsing the administration to fire him, Bharara managed to maneuver the World's Greatest Dealmaker into elevating Bharara's profile even higher, and to draw the spotlight down on what Bhahara's investigations, past and present. He also set up Bhahara as a free radical in our politics; the defrocked U.S. Attorney already is talking about his "absolute independence," which ought to freeze the bowels of a lot of people with plans for the future. If, one day, we're all talking about Senator Preet Bhahara, then the current president* will get a big assist.

He's shaking up Washington! He's exploding political norms! He's also lighting his own pants on fire.

There's a kind of momentum building inside and outside the government right now. For a long time, I thought the Republicans in Congress could hold out against the encroaching chaos long enough to pass their wish list, which the president* would sign, because that beats working and he doesn't know anything. But the way they've botched health-care makes the congressional majorities look as though they've both been hit in the head with a hammer. (The mischief out in the states, however, is still ongoing, and as strong as ever.)


It's possible that too many things are coming from too many directions for that strategy to work any more. The way you'll know if that situation reaches a tipping point will be if the various legislative intelligence committees of the Congress looking into the Russia business give up the job either to a special prosecutor or to some sort of blue-ribbon 9/11-type commission. You want chaos? That will be chaos, and the patient may flat-line.

This Level of Corruption Is Unprecedented in the Modern History of the Presidency

Just like the fire department would really rather come into a building when there was smoke coming out of one window instead of when there are flames coming out of every window, because it's a lot easier to control the fire early on, it's much easier to control an epidemic early on. It's almost as though the entire bureaucratic immune system of the government is reacting to an invading virus. The worst thing any of us can do is assume that the ascent of El Caudillo del Mar-A-Lago was not the sui generis event that it clearly was, and that he, himself, is not the sui generis occupant of the White House that he clearly is, and that he has not surrounded himself with dubious quacks and hacks that are sui generis in their approach to government as they clearly are. There is a level of intellectual—and, perhaps, literal—corruption that is unprecedented in the modern history of the presidency and that is a genuine and unique threat to democratic institutions that are the objects of destructive contempt. …

This Level of Corruption Is Unprecedented in the Modern History of the Presidency

And it's threatening our democracy.

www.esquire.com

 

[jamesriske]

Another example of liberal decision making is the filth and ******* in San Francisco. The city is a cesspool with so much feces, ******* needles, and piss in the streets that foreign governments warn their citizens not to visit. The contaminant levels are worse than the filthiest slums in India. So much of the waste is run off into the ocean that Trump had to get the EPA to legally ******* city officials to clean off the streets. The homeless there harass people and crap all over the place and the homosexual population has free reign to do whatever they want. There's even a public piss pool (an inflatable children's pool) that gays can get into to be pissed on by random strangers who feel the urge. Right in the open, in public. (Great place to raise your *******, huh? )

Liberals allow this because it 'feels good'. They don't want to tell the homeless people or the ******* addicts what to do. They don't want to impose restrictions on them or try to control their behavior. I've even heard them say, "They have things hard enough, why make things even harder on them by telling them what to do. Live and let live."

Sounds good to a liberal; sounds like the right thing to do. It feels good.

The result? A entire city turned into the third world. Piss, *******, and filth everywhere. Tourists, harassed, mugged, robbed, raped, and even killed right out in the streets. Infectious diseases run rampant including STD's. Pollution in the streets running off into the ocean causing toxic levels so high that beaches have to be closed most of the time. Tourism is way down, businesses closing and leaving the area, tax revenues way down. Massive city budget deficits at the brink of bankruptcy. Thousands of *******-addicted, mentally-ill homeless people allowed to languish in the streets and suffer. Living in filth, overdosing on *******, wallowing in their own feces, urine and throw up. Clearly suffering and hurting with no real help available to them. A once beautiful city now in total filth and decay and home to thousands of hopeless, mentally-ill people suffering without any hope of revival.

Why? Because the decision feels good. To hell with the results.

If conservatives were in charge, the homeless would be off the streets, ******* addicts arrested and put into rehab, the area cleaned up, taxes lowered to accommodate businesses, incentives raised, and laws strictly enforced. The result? People would get the help they need to treat and/or overcome their mental illnesses, the city would clean up to attract more business and tourism, revenues would increase, and the standard of living would be raised. Conservatives know that 'tough love' is needed to help certain types of people and certain illnesses such as ******* addiction.

There are thousands of other examples of this. Just pick any liberal policy or decision and look at the outcome, see how the outcome often produces negative results and yet, this fact is never acknowledged by the liberal mindset. To them, results don't matter and their brains can not compute cause and effect.

In short, a liberal runs across a homeless ******* addict and says, "Oh look at this poor man, kept down by big corporate greed. Here, let me give you ten dollars." The bum goes and buys a hit of crystal prohibited chemical and carries on his slow, torturous decline to death.

A conservative runs across a homeless bum and arrests him for ******* possession and vagrancy and puts his ass in jail and orders mandatory ******* treatment programs to help him get off ******* and get a job. The result? Some of the bums actually get off ******* and turn their lives around and go on to lead productive, happy lives.

That's the difference. Only conservatives comprehend this.

 

[blkdlaur]

I used to LUV to walk the streets of San Francisco and eat at Tarantino’s on Fisherman’s Wharf - AMAZING what Pelosification can do to a once magnificent city - SO sad really :{

 

[Sxymexyhotwife]

My attitude, regarding Trump, is pretty much along your line, however, I suggest WE ALL make efforts to un-polarize the parties and try to reach some middle ground

Hey, Look! It's the white moderate that Dr King warned us colored people about.

Let me guess? Blowing Biden in November?

 

[2kindred_spirits]

KAG all the way!

 

[STIFFBBC]

For those who follow Naruto you got to appreciate the similarities with Trump and the character of Naruto as seen here...

Funnier version here...

 

[MacNfries]

Hey, Look! It's the white moderate that Dr King warned us colored people about.

What side of the moon did you say that avatar photo is of ... I can't identify those craters. Or is that a photo of URANUS?

 

[hoping hubby]

What side of the moon did you say that avatar photo is of ... I can't identify those craters. Or is that a photo of URANUS?

Well, you'll have to admit, now ... I'm not insulting or dishing out sarcasm the way I was even weeks ago. Trying to do my part.

Oh yeah, not insulting at all....

 

[MacNfries]

Oh yeah, not insulting at all....

Oh how nice, you DO follow me around just so you can insult my posts ... I knew you were doing that.
You're really lonely, aren't you? You NEED me, h-h, or your life would have no meaning at all. That's ok, glad to help you out.
Ever find a job? Ever go looking for one?
for following me.

 

[hoping hubby]

Oh how nice, you DO follow me around just so you can insult my posts ... I knew you were doing that.
You're really lonely, aren't you? You NEED me, h-h, or your life would have no meaning at all. That's ok, glad to help you out.
Ever find a job? Ever go looking for one?
View attachment 3405062for following me.

Hmmm...can't own up to the insulting you got called out on...so try some good ole denigration. You're certainly consistent!