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It`s not only annoying it is becoming ridiculous! Even though i can see where the OP is coming from, i think it`s plain overreacting. Considering the site we are on and the many different shades of words used in different contexts "boy" must be one of the faintest.
There had been a discussion about the "BBC" before, and it is quite obvious i think that the term used in context of a person and not an organ is objectifying and demeaning. i never use it that way (and hardly use it at all BTW).
But "boy"? C`mon.
If you want to vent or rant about something based on reason, don`t let it be the "boy". i can think of better-founded complaints. (But perhaps they would not be in line with the policy of "interracially" fucking other men`s wives.)
There had been a discussion about the "BBC" before, and it is quite obvious i think that the term used in context of a person and not an organ is objectifying and demeaning. i never use it that way (and hardly use it at all BTW).
But "boy"? C`mon.
If you want to vent or rant about something based on reason, don`t let it be the "boy". i can think of better-founded complaints. (But perhaps they would not be in line with the policy of "interracially" fucking other men`s wives.)
Ask white people not to say one word and we apparently act like we've been asked to ******* our first born. Jesus Christ.
I didn't start the post. Touched a nerve, did I?
I would say that it's very much, each person to their own, being on here you have to expect some language you aren't going timo like, whether your the black guy, the woman or the white guy.
Venting and telling everyone they are wrong doesn't cut it my friend, in you own world, with your own people you play with, having rules and words you don't use is perfectly acceptable, as is refusing to play if someone doesn't respect your rules, but on here, it's a public forum, if you don't like what people say here then either complain to the mods, who will decide what's allowed, or pipe down.
Venting and telling everyone they are wrong doesn't cut it my friend, in you own world, with your own people you play with, having rules and words you don't use is perfectly acceptable, as is refusing to play if someone doesn't respect your rules, but on here, it's a public forum, if you don't like what people say here then either complain to the mods, who will decide what's allowed, or pipe down.
The words are all just a means to an ends for everyone involved.
I'm sure I read somewhere on here one black guy saying he got of even more when one of the couple would say the N word or another derogatory word, just like the couples do.
Each to their own but trying to sensor a fetish site from using derogatory terms for one demographic in a fetish, without the same for the others is a bit rich.
I'm sure I read somewhere on here one black guy saying he got of even more when one of the couple would say the N word or another derogatory word, just like the couples do.
Each to their own but trying to sensor a fetish site from using derogatory terms for one demographic in a fetish, without the same for the others is a bit rich.
Funny. But it`s not "we".
Anderson Cooper 360
Understanding why you don’t call a black man a boy
Congressman Geoff Davis (R-KY) .
Roland S. Martin, CNN Contributor
Special Correspondent, Essence Magazine/Essence.com
When I read about Kentucky Republican Congressman Geoff Davis using the word “boy” in reference to Sen. Barack Obama, I immediately thought of a routine, and subsequent book, by comedian Cedric the Entertainer.
While watching the movie, “The Kings of Comedy,” Ced had me rolling in the aisle talking about being a “grown ass man,” and that eventually became the title of his best-selling book, “Grown-A$$ Man.”
For those who think that African Americans are too sensitive over this issue, and it’s just a well-meaning person making a mistake, I understand that. But others must understand the history of African Americans, and what it has always meant to black men for someone to call them a “boy.”
One, it’s the ultimate sign of disrespect, and is often more offensive than calling them the N-word. For years black men were summarily dismissed and treated with disregard. It was as if their stature was diminished when someone white called them a boy. I’ve heard black men describe the hurt and pain of growing up and having someone white call them a boy in front of their own baby.
Again, I know some are reading this and saying, “Why can’t we all just get along and forget all this race stuff?”
That would be great, but our history is truly our history, and there are things left over that when said, immediately conjure up those feelings of old.
Do you remember the images from the sanitation strike that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was leading in Memphis in 1968? The most striking visual was that of the male protestors wearing signs saying, “I Am A Man!”
There was a reason they were wearing those signs.
You may have caught the Showtime movie, “10,000 Black Men Named George,” which tells the story of labor leader A. Philip Randolph, who organized the black porters of the Pullman Rail Company during the1920s, known as the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters.
The name is derived from the fact that white passengers never bothered to learn the names of the porters, and would dismissively call them all George, which was seen during those days as a racial slur.
Remember earlier this year when former President Bill Clinton referred to Obama as a “kid”? That evoked a similar reaction by some because it was seen as being dismissive of a sitting U.S. senator who also is a grown man with a wife and two daughters. Where I come from, we call that a man, and not a boy or kid.
I have my own story when it comes to being called a boy.
I recall working at the Austin (Texas) American-Statesman newspaper and an older white male colleague was talking to me, and in the conversation, he referenced me as a boy. I knew he meant no harm, but don’t think for a second that it didn’t cross my mind about the word. He also stiffened up, realized what he said and quickly replied, “Now you know I didn’t mean to disparage you by calling you a boy?”
In this presidential campaign we have had many instances where individuals have made references that were perceived as sexist or racist. Some have been called overt; others covert.
I’ve heard men blow off comments about Sen. Hillary Clinton that are clearly sexist, and we do well to recognize that. I have a wife, sisters and nieces, and I sure don’t want them treated with disrespect, so not objecting to sexism towards Clinton means that attitude will remain, and it may affect the women in my life one day.
Heck, Obama’s comments about rural folks in Pennsylvania and the visceral reaction by some shows that even when it comes to guns and religion, some folks see that as an attack on who they are and where they come from.
When people suggest that we all shouldn’t be so sensitive, I get what they are saying, but I also know that’s always easy to say when you aren’t the one who is being targeted.
Watching what you say, and realizing the meaning what you say is not being politically correct. It’s realizing that words do matter, and they have meaning.
This brouhaha over the comments by the Kentucky congressman won’t blow up into a major story, and we’ll all likely forget. But let’s treat all of this as a history lesson on race and gender, and as a window into a world that many of us either don’t know about, ignore or long forgot.
Understanding why you don’t call a black man a boy
Congressman Geoff Davis (R-KY) .
Roland S. Martin, CNN Contributor
Special Correspondent, Essence Magazine/Essence.com
When I read about Kentucky Republican Congressman Geoff Davis using the word “boy” in reference to Sen. Barack Obama, I immediately thought of a routine, and subsequent book, by comedian Cedric the Entertainer.
While watching the movie, “The Kings of Comedy,” Ced had me rolling in the aisle talking about being a “grown ass man,” and that eventually became the title of his best-selling book, “Grown-A$$ Man.”
For those who think that African Americans are too sensitive over this issue, and it’s just a well-meaning person making a mistake, I understand that. But others must understand the history of African Americans, and what it has always meant to black men for someone to call them a “boy.”
One, it’s the ultimate sign of disrespect, and is often more offensive than calling them the N-word. For years black men were summarily dismissed and treated with disregard. It was as if their stature was diminished when someone white called them a boy. I’ve heard black men describe the hurt and pain of growing up and having someone white call them a boy in front of their own baby.
Again, I know some are reading this and saying, “Why can’t we all just get along and forget all this race stuff?”
That would be great, but our history is truly our history, and there are things left over that when said, immediately conjure up those feelings of old.
Do you remember the images from the sanitation strike that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was leading in Memphis in 1968? The most striking visual was that of the male protestors wearing signs saying, “I Am A Man!”
There was a reason they were wearing those signs.
You may have caught the Showtime movie, “10,000 Black Men Named George,” which tells the story of labor leader A. Philip Randolph, who organized the black porters of the Pullman Rail Company during the1920s, known as the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters.
The name is derived from the fact that white passengers never bothered to learn the names of the porters, and would dismissively call them all George, which was seen during those days as a racial slur.
Remember earlier this year when former President Bill Clinton referred to Obama as a “kid”? That evoked a similar reaction by some because it was seen as being dismissive of a sitting U.S. senator who also is a grown man with a wife and two daughters. Where I come from, we call that a man, and not a boy or kid.
I have my own story when it comes to being called a boy.
I recall working at the Austin (Texas) American-Statesman newspaper and an older white male colleague was talking to me, and in the conversation, he referenced me as a boy. I knew he meant no harm, but don’t think for a second that it didn’t cross my mind about the word. He also stiffened up, realized what he said and quickly replied, “Now you know I didn’t mean to disparage you by calling you a boy?”
In this presidential campaign we have had many instances where individuals have made references that were perceived as sexist or racist. Some have been called overt; others covert.
I’ve heard men blow off comments about Sen. Hillary Clinton that are clearly sexist, and we do well to recognize that. I have a wife, sisters and nieces, and I sure don’t want them treated with disrespect, so not objecting to sexism towards Clinton means that attitude will remain, and it may affect the women in my life one day.
Heck, Obama’s comments about rural folks in Pennsylvania and the visceral reaction by some shows that even when it comes to guns and religion, some folks see that as an attack on who they are and where they come from.
When people suggest that we all shouldn’t be so sensitive, I get what they are saying, but I also know that’s always easy to say when you aren’t the one who is being targeted.
Watching what you say, and realizing the meaning what you say is not being politically correct. It’s realizing that words do matter, and they have meaning.
This brouhaha over the comments by the Kentucky congressman won’t blow up into a major story, and we’ll all likely forget. But let’s treat all of this as a history lesson on race and gender, and as a window into a world that many of us either don’t know about, ignore or long forgot.
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Terms You Might Not Know Are Considered Racist
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byNadra Kareem Nittle
Updated October 29, 2018
Some racist terms have been included in the American vocabulary for so long that many who use them are often clueless about their origins.
Boy
In most situations, the word "boy" is not a problem. Used to describe an African American man, however, the word is troublesome. That's because historically whites routinely described black men as boys to suggest African Americans weren't on equal footing with them. Both during and after slavery, African Americans weren't viewed as full-fledged people but as mentally, physically, and spiritually inferior beings to whites. Calling black men "boys" was one way to express the racist ideologies of yesteryear.
Despite its widespread use as a racial putdown, in Ash v. Tyson Foods, the U.S. Court of Appeals decided that "boy" cannot be considered a racial slur unless it's prefaced with a racial marker such as "black." This decision has sparked controversy, considering that whites typically didn't call African American "black boys" during Jim Crow, but simply "boys."
The good news, according to Prerna Lal of Change.org, is that the U.S. Supreme Court reversed the holding, ruling "that the use of the word 'boy' on its own is not enough evidence of racial animus, but that the word is also not benign." That means the court is willing to consider the context in which "boy" is used to determine if it's being uttered as a racial epithet.
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Terms You Might Not Know Are Considered Racist
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Ryan McVay / Getty Images
byNadra Kareem Nittle
Updated October 29, 2018
Some racist terms have been included in the American vocabulary for so long that many who use them are often clueless about their origins.
Boy
In most situations, the word "boy" is not a problem. Used to describe an African American man, however, the word is troublesome. That's because historically whites routinely described black men as boys to suggest African Americans weren't on equal footing with them. Both during and after slavery, African Americans weren't viewed as full-fledged people but as mentally, physically, and spiritually inferior beings to whites. Calling black men "boys" was one way to express the racist ideologies of yesteryear.
Despite its widespread use as a racial putdown, in Ash v. Tyson Foods, the U.S. Court of Appeals decided that "boy" cannot be considered a racial slur unless it's prefaced with a racial marker such as "black." This decision has sparked controversy, considering that whites typically didn't call African American "black boys" during Jim Crow, but simply "boys."
The good news, according to Prerna Lal of Change.org, is that the U.S. Supreme Court reversed the holding, ruling "that the use of the word 'boy' on its own is not enough evidence of racial animus, but that the word is also not benign." That means the court is willing to consider the context in which "boy" is used to determine if it's being uttered as a racial epithet.
Anderson Cooper 360
Understanding why you don’t call a black man a boy
Congressman Geoff Davis (R-KY) .
Roland S. Martin, CNN Contributor
Special Correspondent, Essence Magazine/Essence.com
When I read about Kentucky Republican Congressman Geoff Davis using the word “boy” in reference to Sen. Barack Obama, I immediately thought of a routine, and subsequent book, by comedian Cedric the Entertainer.
While watching the movie, “The Kings of Comedy,” Ced had me rolling in the aisle talking about being a “grown ass man,” and that eventually became the title of his best-selling book, “Grown-A$$ Man.”
For those who think that African Americans are too sensitive over this issue, and it’s just a well-meaning person making a mistake, I understand that. But others must understand the history of African Americans, and what it has always meant to black men for someone to call them a “boy.”
One, it’s the ultimate sign of disrespect, and is often more offensive than calling them the N-word. For years black men were summarily dismissed and treated with disregard. It was as if their stature was diminished when someone white called them a boy. I’ve heard black men describe the hurt and pain of growing up and having someone white call them a boy in front of their own baby.
Again, I know some are reading this and saying, “Why can’t we all just get along and forget all this race stuff?”
That would be great, but our history is truly our history, and there are things left over that when said, immediately conjure up those feelings of old.
Do you remember the images from the sanitation strike that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was leading in Memphis in 1968? The most striking visual was that of the male protestors wearing signs saying, “I Am A Man!”
There was a reason they were wearing those signs.
You may have caught the Showtime movie, “10,000 Black Men Named George,” which tells the story of labor leader A. Philip Randolph, who organized the black porters of the Pullman Rail Company during the1920s, known as the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters.
The name is derived from the fact that white passengers never bothered to learn the names of the porters, and would dismissively call them all George, which was seen during those days as a racial slur.
Remember earlier this year when former President Bill Clinton referred to Obama as a “kid”? That evoked a similar reaction by some because it was seen as being dismissive of a sitting U.S. senator who also is a grown man with a wife and two daughters. Where I come from, we call that a man, and not a boy or kid.
I have my own story when it comes to being called a boy.
I recall working at the Austin (Texas) American-Statesman newspaper and an older white male colleague was talking to me, and in the conversation, he referenced me as a boy. I knew he meant no harm, but don’t think for a second that it didn’t cross my mind about the word. He also stiffened up, realized what he said and quickly replied, “Now you know I didn’t mean to disparage you by calling you a boy?”
In this presidential campaign we have had many instances where individuals have made references that were perceived as sexist or racist. Some have been called overt; others covert.
I’ve heard men blow off comments about Sen. Hillary Clinton that are clearly sexist, and we do well to recognize that. I have a wife, sisters and nieces, and I sure don’t want them treated with disrespect, so not objecting to sexism towards Clinton means that attitude will remain, and it may affect the women in my life one day.
Heck, Obama’s comments about rural folks in Pennsylvania and the visceral reaction by some shows that even when it comes to guns and religion, some folks see that as an attack on who they are and where they come from.
When people suggest that we all shouldn’t be so sensitive, I get what they are saying, but I also know that’s always easy to say when you aren’t the one who is being targeted.
Watching what you say, and realizing the meaning what you say is not being politically correct. It’s realizing that words do matter, and they have meaning.
This brouhaha over the comments by the Kentucky congressman won’t blow up into a major story, and we’ll all likely forget. But let’s treat all of this as a history lesson on race and gender, and as a window into a world that many of us either don’t know about, ignore or long forgot.
I get what your saying, but yo bring this up in a site where the basics of it is black men are Alfa males, dominant and superior, white women a desperate for superior black men, and white guys are get a subs and beg the black guy to fuck hid wife/GF, complaining about black boy, when some of the black guys themselves encourage the couples to day such things.
At the least please day you can At least see the point I'm trying to make here.
Why is it not good to call black people 'boy'?
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Aaron Ellis, Black on Both Sides
Answered Jul 15 2017 · Author has 1.2kanswers and 15.1m answer views
With regards to the recent comment Conor McGregor made towards Floyd Mayweather, Jr., the use of boy could qualify as a racist remark. Obviously, no grown man wants to hear another person calling them “boy” in a condescending manner, but in the context of black men in America, there is added baggage that makes it a deeper insult. There is a history that requires context to understand.
Boy has its roots in slavery as an infantilizing and emasculating term directed at male slaves. But it really became an ugly word following the Reconstruction Era. The end of slavery should have signified a new era for African-Americans, but it did not. After slavery ended in America, blacks were still treated as second class citizens for many decades. Much of this came in the form of legal discrimination, such as the Jim Crow laws that made de jure segregation the law of the land. Those laws made it that all public facilities were divided by use for whites and for coloreds, and though supposedly things were “separate but equal,” it was clear that everything available to colored people was starkly substandard. If a black person tried to use a facility intended for whites, there would be consequences, from a minor verbal lashing or an arrest to a beating or lynching. These laws are relevant because they were designed to keep black people “in their place,” which is to say that they offered daily reminders that society placed blacks beneath whites.
The unfortunate result of these laws is that there were also unwritten rules which governed daily life, and they, too, served the purpose of keeping black people in their place. One of the biggest social norms in the Jim Crow era was that when white men addressed black men, they referred to them as boy. When black men addressed white men, they called them sir. This relationship was a constant regardless of context. It didn’t matter if it was a wealthy black senior citizen speaking to a poor white young, black men were called boy as a reminder of inferiority and white men were called sir as a reminder of their superiority. Black men were also expected to be courteous in all of these interactions. If someone called them boy, they were expected to respond. Ignoring the call or getting angry would be met with harsh consequences. If the white man was rude or violent towards them, black men were still expected to smile and finish sentences with sir.
Though these were unwritten social norms, they may as well have been law. If a black man talked back to a white man or did anything that indicated he did not know his place, there were harsh consequences. This was a time in which blacks were victimized by rampant murders, public lynchings and other heinous acts that went uninvestigated by law enforcement, while also being targeted and punished by law enforcement for non-criminal acts or mere accusations. For decades, black people just tolerated the mistreatment.
So this is why there is a lot of negative baggage when someone - especially a white person - calls a black man “boy.” It’s a reminder of a time when black men were treated as though they were subhuman. “Boy” was used post-slavery to treat black men like they were still slaves. It is a reminder of economic, legal, psychological and social disenfranchisement. It is used to publicly emasculate, humiliate, and denigrate.
“Dance for me, boy,” the full statement made Conor McGregor made towards Floyd Mayweather, Jr., is even worse than just saying “boy.” There was a time when black people were severely limited by what jobs they could get. Entertainer, particularly as a singer/dancer, was one of those few available jobs. But often the singing and dancing jobs given to blacks were pure minstrelry, where they were the butt of the joke. “Dance for me, boy” is roughly the exact words a slave master or minstrel show guest would say to black man while demanding entertainment.
So this brings us back to Conor McGregor saying “Dance for me, boy.” Was it racist, clueless, or just an insult gone too far?
My answer: I don’t know.
It’s not the first time McGregor has said something kinda racist. Plus, he said it to Mayweather twice over two straight days. The first time might have been an accident, but the second time?
On the other hand, McGregor is also known for being a consummate trash talker. He takes pride in playing mind games with his opponents through psychological jabs even more than his physical jabs. He also has the personality of someone who doesn’t give a damn, so he is the type that would be willing to say something terrible if it achieves the goal of getting under his opponent’s skin, even if it casts him as the true villain.
The verdict is still out if McGregor used the term in a racially motivated manner or if he is just a clueless idiot who said it without understanding the full weight of his words. Regardless, what he said was not okay, and he needs to remove the racial insults from his arsenal. It may upset his opponents, but it will also upset many others in the process.
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Kathleen Grace, artist, art photographer, top writer 2015, 16, 17, 18
Answered Jul 15 2017 · Author has 13.6kanswers and 15.8m answer views
Historically, “boy” was used as a derogatory and demeaning racist name, called to a Black man’s face, and it’s intention clearly putting them down. It’s beyond a slap in the face, it is the worst insult, and it is intended to make clear who is superior. Why that one word racist is that it would never be said to a White man.
Today, under most circumstances, I’d consider it the worst possible insult, and highly inflammatory. In this instance, it was likely intended to get press attention and intentionally stir things up. McGregor is well know for using taunting and insults as a means of promoting himself.
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Richard Sveyda, former Computer Scientist at USAF, Northrup, Others
Answered Mar 7 · Author has 106 answers and 82.5k answer views
It basically makes the person look like their locked in 1860.
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Aaron Ellis, Black on Both Sides
Answered Jul 15 2017 · Author has 1.2kanswers and 15.1m answer views
With regards to the recent comment Conor McGregor made towards Floyd Mayweather, Jr., the use of boy could qualify as a racist remark. Obviously, no grown man wants to hear another person calling them “boy” in a condescending manner, but in the context of black men in America, there is added baggage that makes it a deeper insult. There is a history that requires context to understand.
Boy has its roots in slavery as an infantilizing and emasculating term directed at male slaves. But it really became an ugly word following the Reconstruction Era. The end of slavery should have signified a new era for African-Americans, but it did not. After slavery ended in America, blacks were still treated as second class citizens for many decades. Much of this came in the form of legal discrimination, such as the Jim Crow laws that made de jure segregation the law of the land. Those laws made it that all public facilities were divided by use for whites and for coloreds, and though supposedly things were “separate but equal,” it was clear that everything available to colored people was starkly substandard. If a black person tried to use a facility intended for whites, there would be consequences, from a minor verbal lashing or an arrest to a beating or lynching. These laws are relevant because they were designed to keep black people “in their place,” which is to say that they offered daily reminders that society placed blacks beneath whites.
The unfortunate result of these laws is that there were also unwritten rules which governed daily life, and they, too, served the purpose of keeping black people in their place. One of the biggest social norms in the Jim Crow era was that when white men addressed black men, they referred to them as boy. When black men addressed white men, they called them sir. This relationship was a constant regardless of context. It didn’t matter if it was a wealthy black senior citizen speaking to a poor white young, black men were called boy as a reminder of inferiority and white men were called sir as a reminder of their superiority. Black men were also expected to be courteous in all of these interactions. If someone called them boy, they were expected to respond. Ignoring the call or getting angry would be met with harsh consequences. If the white man was rude or violent towards them, black men were still expected to smile and finish sentences with sir.
Though these were unwritten social norms, they may as well have been law. If a black man talked back to a white man or did anything that indicated he did not know his place, there were harsh consequences. This was a time in which blacks were victimized by rampant murders, public lynchings and other heinous acts that went uninvestigated by law enforcement, while also being targeted and punished by law enforcement for non-criminal acts or mere accusations. For decades, black people just tolerated the mistreatment.
So this is why there is a lot of negative baggage when someone - especially a white person - calls a black man “boy.” It’s a reminder of a time when black men were treated as though they were subhuman. “Boy” was used post-slavery to treat black men like they were still slaves. It is a reminder of economic, legal, psychological and social disenfranchisement. It is used to publicly emasculate, humiliate, and denigrate.
“Dance for me, boy,” the full statement made Conor McGregor made towards Floyd Mayweather, Jr., is even worse than just saying “boy.” There was a time when black people were severely limited by what jobs they could get. Entertainer, particularly as a singer/dancer, was one of those few available jobs. But often the singing and dancing jobs given to blacks were pure minstrelry, where they were the butt of the joke. “Dance for me, boy” is roughly the exact words a slave master or minstrel show guest would say to black man while demanding entertainment.
So this brings us back to Conor McGregor saying “Dance for me, boy.” Was it racist, clueless, or just an insult gone too far?
My answer: I don’t know.
It’s not the first time McGregor has said something kinda racist. Plus, he said it to Mayweather twice over two straight days. The first time might have been an accident, but the second time?
On the other hand, McGregor is also known for being a consummate trash talker. He takes pride in playing mind games with his opponents through psychological jabs even more than his physical jabs. He also has the personality of someone who doesn’t give a damn, so he is the type that would be willing to say something terrible if it achieves the goal of getting under his opponent’s skin, even if it casts him as the true villain.
The verdict is still out if McGregor used the term in a racially motivated manner or if he is just a clueless idiot who said it without understanding the full weight of his words. Regardless, what he said was not okay, and he needs to remove the racial insults from his arsenal. It may upset his opponents, but it will also upset many others in the process.
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Kathleen Grace, artist, art photographer, top writer 2015, 16, 17, 18
Answered Jul 15 2017 · Author has 13.6kanswers and 15.8m answer views
Historically, “boy” was used as a derogatory and demeaning racist name, called to a Black man’s face, and it’s intention clearly putting them down. It’s beyond a slap in the face, it is the worst insult, and it is intended to make clear who is superior. Why that one word racist is that it would never be said to a White man.
Today, under most circumstances, I’d consider it the worst possible insult, and highly inflammatory. In this instance, it was likely intended to get press attention and intentionally stir things up. McGregor is well know for using taunting and insults as a means of promoting himself.
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Richard Sveyda, former Computer Scientist at USAF, Northrup, Others
Answered Mar 7 · Author has 106 answers and 82.5k answer views
It basically makes the person look like their locked in 1860.
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Aaron Ellis, Black on Both Sides
Answered Jul 15 2017 · Author has 1.2kanswers and 15.1m answer views
With regards to the recent comment Conor McGregor made towards Floyd Mayweather, Jr., the use of boy could qualify as a racist remark. Obviously, no grown man wants to hear another person calling them “boy” in a condescending manner, but in the context of black men in America, there is added baggage that makes it a deeper insult. There is a history that requires context to understand.
Boy has its roots in slavery as an infantilizing and emasculating term directed at male slaves. But it really became an ugly word following the Reconstruction Era. The end of slavery should have signified a new era for African-Americans, but it did not. After slavery ended in America, blacks were still treated as second class citizens for many decades. Much of this came in the form of legal discrimination, such as the Jim Crow laws that made de jure segregation the law of the land. Those laws made it that all public facilities were divided by use for whites and for coloreds, and though supposedly things were “separate but equal,” it was clear that everything available to colored people was starkly substandard. If a black person tried to use a facility intended for whites, there would be consequences, from a minor verbal lashing or an arrest to a beating or lynching. These laws are relevant because they were designed to keep black people “in their place,” which is to say that they offered daily reminders that society placed blacks beneath whites.
The unfortunate result of these laws is that there were also unwritten rules which governed daily life, and they, too, served the purpose of keeping black people in their place. One of the biggest social norms in the Jim Crow era was that when white men addressed black men, they referred to them as boy. When black men addressed white men, they called them sir. This relationship was a constant regardless of context. It didn’t matter if it was a wealthy black senior citizen speaking to a poor white young, black men were called boy as a reminder of inferiority and white men were called sir as a reminder of their superiority. Black men were also expected to be courteous in all of these interactions. If someone called them boy, they were expected to respond. Ignoring the call or getting angry would be met with harsh consequences. If the white man was rude or violent towards them, black men were still expected to smile and finish sentences with sir.
Though these were unwritten social norms, they may as well have been law. If a black man talked back to a white man or did anything that indicated he did not know his place, there were harsh consequences. This was a time in which blacks were victimized by rampant murders, public lynchings and other heinous acts that went uninvestigated by law enforcement, while also being targeted and punished by law enforcement for non-criminal acts or mere accusations. For decades, black people just tolerated the mistreatment.
So this is why there is a lot of negative baggage when someone - especially a white person - calls a black man “boy.” It’s a reminder of a time when black men were treated as though they were subhuman. “Boy” was used post-slavery to treat black men like they were still slaves. It is a reminder of economic, legal, psychological and social disenfranchisement. It is used to publicly emasculate, humiliate, and denigrate.
“Dance for me, boy,” the full statement made Conor McGregor made towards Floyd Mayweather, Jr., is even worse than just saying “boy.” There was a time when black people were severely limited by what jobs they could get. Entertainer, particularly as a singer/dancer, was one of those few available jobs. But often the singing and dancing jobs given to blacks were pure minstrelry, where they were the butt of the joke. “Dance for me, boy” is roughly the exact words a slave master or minstrel show guest would say to black man while demanding entertainment.
So this brings us back to Conor McGregor saying “Dance for me, boy.” Was it racist, clueless, or just an insult gone too far?
My answer: I don’t know.
It’s not the first time McGregor has said something kinda racist. Plus, he said it to Mayweather twice over two straight days. The first time might have been an accident, but the second time?
On the other hand, McGregor is also known for being a consummate trash talker. He takes pride in playing mind games with his opponents through psychological jabs even more than his physical jabs. He also has the personality of someone who doesn’t give a damn, so he is the type that would be willing to say something terrible if it achieves the goal of getting under his opponent’s skin, even if it casts him as the true villain.
The verdict is still out if McGregor used the term in a racially motivated manner or if he is just a clueless idiot who said it without understanding the full weight of his words. Regardless, what he said was not okay, and he needs to remove the racial insults from his arsenal. It may upset his opponents, but it will also upset many others in the process.
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Kathleen Grace, artist, art photographer, top writer 2015, 16, 17, 18
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Historically, “boy” was used as a derogatory and demeaning racist name, called to a Black man’s face, and it’s intention clearly putting them down. It’s beyond a slap in the face, it is the worst insult, and it is intended to make clear who is superior. Why that one word racist is that it would never be said to a White man.
Today, under most circumstances, I’d consider it the worst possible insult, and highly inflammatory. In this instance, it was likely intended to get press attention and intentionally stir things up. McGregor is well know for using taunting and insults as a means of promoting himself.
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Richard Sveyda, former Computer Scientist at USAF, Northrup, Others
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It basically makes the person look like their locked in 1860.
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In what way, in this fetish is calling a black guy boy, when he is going to be fucking your other half or you of your the woman, be condicending?
Again I get where your coming from, but this isn't the place to be complaining about this issue.
Again I ask do you see where I'm coming from?
Ok one that wad tough to read and fully comprehend. 2. I apologize to everyone for posting this in general discussion as opposed to the "other forum" where all the random talk is held. I've seen post on trump. I've seen post on sports. And many other non-sex related topics. This topic had nothing to do with this site or any sexual related fantasy. Dear white people is something that has gone from a Netflix series. To a black twitter hashtag. To an actual movie. The purpose of all of those was to shed light on certain inappropriate behaviors, words, thinkings done by white people. So yes i should have posted this in the "off-topic discussions". But still nonetheless if there are men out there that wanna be considered Alfa(lol) And if there are cucks, women, or jus everyday white people that view black men as Alfa(lol)..... Then don't call his Alfa ass boy. If it fits into your fantasy playing and thinking, shouldn't u be calling him sir, daddy, king, or whatever other dominate words some people on this site use? All you folks viewing it is complaining or crying seem very unbeknown to the history of the word. And those same people are so quick to say "get over it" "it happens 100s of years ago". When in fact this very thing happened to some of our parents and definitely my grandparents. It's definitely something i was taught and made aware of at a young age. Now I'll also say this again... This is jus my opinion. It may be brothers on here that disagree with or think I'm making a big deal for no reason. But these are my opinions
Cool, like I said all I was after was for an acknowledgment of what I was saying, yes it's abhorrent and we all should be standing up to that kinda thing, but I would doubt that any white couple would be calling their bull, Dom, Alfa or whatever a boy, if it offenders him, after all I'm sure there are more white couples looking for a decent hung black guy than guys looking for couples.
That last statement is pretty damn comical. Lol. Single men outweigh couples in the lifestyle by a large margin. But other than that, thanks for your input.
To be honest you're right. Lol. But the guy is holding all the cards so to speak, esp if he is exactly the kinda guy the woman desires.
Just so we don't redirect "folks" on a new political correctness assumption (because some are so easily influenced on here) ... Tray was injecting some humorous sarcasm, which I like. BUT, its ALPHA, everyone ... not Alfa. If people start using "that word" regularly, we'll all know WHO to blame, won't 'WE', Tray? 
Lol, can't believe I typed Alfa too.
Exactly my point, earlier ... just as the "southern pride" and Rebel Flag and biased attitude toward blacks is passed on by 'often uneducated white folks'. Passing on negativity seems to be a lot easier to do as it vilifies one and victimizes the other .... its got to STOP!
Agreed.
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