And its no surprise you would, too. He's been a vulture capitalist all his life ... taking advantage of the weaker to enrich himself. He's by far hurt more people than he's helped ... 3,000+ law suits to date? Give me a break. He's the President because of a level of dishonesty never measured on an individual before, much less a President. He deserves the harshest KARMA that can be given to him ... 3 failed marriages, thousands of lawsuits for ripping people off, lying out his ass daily, reneging on promises, enriching himself at the expense of others, etc etc ... he has zero integrity. There's no way Hillary Clinton could have been even a 1/10th.as bad. All that is sustainable, however, but colluding with Russia and insulting our allies is not forgivable, and the Republicans will pay in 2018 mid-terms.
Wake Up, America! Wake Up! PLEASE!!
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I'm well aware of the differences. What's sad is your lack of understanding of basic tenants of health Insurance when you're claiming you were advising employees on their health insurance options. We've been over this umpteen times, but apparently you still can't get it. You said:
As I told you many times, Obummercare was going to slap a 40% "cadillac tax" on my company because our insurance was too good in Obummer's eyes. (What happened to "if you like your plan you can keep your plan???) So my awesome plan went bye bye and the only options our company offers now are HDHPs.
Once again, since you can't seem to get this despite being shown multiple times. With an HDHP, there is no copay or coinsurance for a sore throat visit until your ENTIRE calendar year deductible is met.
https://www.healthinsurance.org/glossary/high-deductible-health-plan/
HDHPs cover preventive care before the deductible – the ACA requires this of all plans – but under an HDHP, no other benefits are provided until the insured has met the deductible. That means HDHPs cannot have copays for office visits or prescriptions prior to the deductible being met
And even from Obummercare's own website:
How can you be in your claimed profession and not know this???? As I've said before, I pity the poor slobs who are stuck with you as their insurance guy!
We actually covered this BS back in January. Neither Bandy Lee nor any of her cohorts in the book have actually examined Trump. They're expressing their opinion, which is fine legally....it is just a gross violation of the ethical standards of their profession.
https://www.psychiatry.org/newsroom/news-releases/apa-calls-for-end-to-armchair-psychiatry
Today, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) reiterates its continued and unwavering commitment to the ethical principle known as "The Goldwater Rule." We at the APA call for an end to psychiatrists providing professional opinions in the media about public figures whom they have not examined, whether it be on cable news appearances, books, or in social media. Armchair psychiatry or the use of psychiatry as a political tool is the misuse of psychiatry and is unacceptable and unethical.
Funny how the liberals get all wound up about Trump and other republicans ethical issues, but let someone else make gross violations of their ethical standards and that's just fine and dandy....provided they do so speaking poorly of Trump.
so what's your point?
you got something to say...say it!
facts are facts....the right has no morale's or standards...how many put in jail in the past year?...even on the state level!...we have had 2 here..one with little boys in a motel room...oh yes Al Frankin grabbed a tit and someone wanting to make a name for herself made an issue of it
And I'm telling you, if you don't have access to the 3 existing plans, its either YOUR fault, Your EMPLOYERS fault, or Your STATES fault.
Republicans have done everything to ******* the health plan while providing NOTHING in return. Blame the party you keep pulling for, as the states who picked up the Exchanges, Medicaid Expansion, Subsidies, etc were very happy until President DUMBASS made it his mission to ******* the plans with EXECUTIVE ORDERS .... but, we'll take care of that jerkoff in 2020 if Mueller doesn't take him out FIRST ... are you capable of reading the plans or should someone draw you pretty pictures similar to below?
And I'm sure, H-H, you won't read this for UNDERSTANDING, but as to how to DISCREDIT it and me. Afterall, that's ALL you do here. This is the last I'll go back & forth with you on this. Frankly, you bore me with your so-called KNOW-IT-ALL hypocritical attitude. No worry, I believe you'll be on Medicare before too long... maybe we can get rid of Trump and the Republican trifecta before they cut the legs out from under that entitlement for you just to give themselves yet another income tax cut. ......
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so much for freedom of speech now....guess that's out the window...isn't that how they do things in N.Korea?...then they ******* them!
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-his-most-vocal-critics/ss-BBM1ZYD?ocid=ientp
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-his-most-vocal-critics/ss-BBM1ZYD?ocid=ientp
If you look at ALL DICTATORS throughout the ages, as well as wannabe dictators like the current one in the White House, they share a very common trait!
"Control the media! Control the message! Control the opposition!"
Then you control the Government, et al, the people!
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I'm conservative, I left the GOP. Now I would take Obama back in a nanosecond | Opinion
Updated July 21, 2018 at 3:07 PM; Posted July 21, 2018 at 1:03 PM
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Gallery: President Obama's farewell speech
By The Washington Post
By Max Boot
How I miss Barack Obama.
And I say that as someone who worked to defeat him: I was a foreign policy adviser to John McCain in 2008 and to Mitt Romney in 2012. I criticized Obama's "lead from behind" foreign policy that resulted in a premature pullout from Iraq and a failure to stop the slaughter in Syria. I thought he was too weak on Iran and too tough on Israel. I feared that Obamacare would be too costly. I fumed that he was too professorial and too indecisive. I was left cold by his arrogance and his cult of personality.
Now I would take Obama back in a nanosecond. His presidency appears to be a lost golden age when reason and morality reigned. All of his faults, real as they were, fade into insignificance compared with the crippling defects of his successor. And his strengths - seriousness, dignity, intellect, probity, dedication to ideals larger than self - shine all the more clearly in retrospect.
Max Boot: I left the Republican Party. Now I want Democrats to take over
Those thoughts are prompted by watching Obama's speech in South Africa on the 100th anniversary of Nelson Mandela's birth. I was moved nearly to tears by his eloquent defense of a liberal world order that President Donald Trump appears bent on destroying.
The first thing that struck me was what was missing: There was no self-praise and no name-calling. Obama has a far better claim than Trump to being a "very stable genius," but he didn't call himself one. The sentences were complete and sonorous - and probably written by the speaker himself. (Imagine Trump writing anything longer than a tweet - and even those are full of mistakes.) The tone was sober and high-minded, even if listeners could read between the lines a withering critique of Trump's policies.
Obama denounced the "politics of fear and resentment," the spread of "hatred and paranoia and propaganda and conspiracy theories," and "immigration policies based on race, or ethnicity, or religion." Gee, wonder who he had in mind? He rightly noted that "we now stand at a crossroads - a moment in time at which two very different visions of humanity's future compete for the hearts and minds of citizens around the world." He then rejected the dark vision propagated by Trump and the dictators he so admires.
After Trump-Putin summit, Obama warns against 'strongman' politics
"I believe in Nelson Mandela's vision," Obama said. "I believe in a vision shared by Gandhi and King and Abraham Lincoln. I believe in a vision of equality and justice and freedom and multiracial democracy, built on the premise that all people are created equal, and they're endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.
And I believe that a world governed by such principles is possible and that it can achieve more peace and more cooperation in pursuit of a common good." Even though I was thousands of miles away, I felt like cheering those stirring words.
No, I haven't forgotten the shortcomings of Obama's administration, but I've gained a new perspective on them.
Can you believe that an Obama-era scandal was that the president wore a tan suit or put his feet up on the desk? (Actual Washington Times headline from Sept. 4, 2013: "Obama's foot on Oval Office desk sends shockwaves around the world.") Oh, to have those days back again - before we had a president who was involved in indecent relationships with a Russian despot and (allegedly) a porn star.
What was supposedly the worst abuse of power committed by the Obama administration - the IRS investigations of conservative organizations - has been revealed as "fake news": It turns out that the IRS was also investigating liberal organizations. By contrast, evidence continues to accumulate about Trump scandals, from alleged campaign collusion with Russia to violations of the emoluments clause.
Obama may have told a few fibs, like any politician, but he was not a pathological liar.
Conservatives accused Obama of hating America and going on an "apology tour." Obama never claimed, however, that poor relations with Russia were the fault of "U.S. foolishness and stupidity" rather than Russian wrongdoing. Obama may have been naive in trying to "reset" relations with Moscow, but he did not say that Russian President Vladimir Pu-tin is a "fine" person -- and he did not endorse the Russian's lies over the truths unearthed by the U.S. intelligence community. The Iran nuclear deal was flawed, but it was infinitely stronger than the non-agreement Trump reached with North Korea. Obama even looks like a fiscal conservative compared with Trump, who is ushering in trillion-dollar deficits.
It can be depressing to think about our current predicament under a president whose loyalty to America is suspect but whose racism and xenophobia are undoubted.
However, Obama's speech gave me a glimmer of optimism - and not only because he cited Mandela's "example of persistence and of hope." He reminds me that just 18 months ago (can you believe it was so recently?) we had a president with whom I could disagree without ever doubting his fitness to lead. We can have one again.
Max Boot, a Washington Post columnist, is the Jeane J. Kirkpatrick senior fellow for national security studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and a global affairs analyst for CNN. He is the author of the forthcoming "The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right."
Bookmark NJ.com/Opinion. Follow on Twitter @NJ_Opinion and find NJ.com Opinion on Facebook.
Updated July 21, 2018 at 3:07 PM; Posted July 21, 2018 at 1:03 PM
21
Gallery: President Obama's farewell speech
By The Washington Post
By Max Boot
How I miss Barack Obama.
And I say that as someone who worked to defeat him: I was a foreign policy adviser to John McCain in 2008 and to Mitt Romney in 2012. I criticized Obama's "lead from behind" foreign policy that resulted in a premature pullout from Iraq and a failure to stop the slaughter in Syria. I thought he was too weak on Iran and too tough on Israel. I feared that Obamacare would be too costly. I fumed that he was too professorial and too indecisive. I was left cold by his arrogance and his cult of personality.
Now I would take Obama back in a nanosecond. His presidency appears to be a lost golden age when reason and morality reigned. All of his faults, real as they were, fade into insignificance compared with the crippling defects of his successor. And his strengths - seriousness, dignity, intellect, probity, dedication to ideals larger than self - shine all the more clearly in retrospect.
Max Boot: I left the Republican Party. Now I want Democrats to take over
Those thoughts are prompted by watching Obama's speech in South Africa on the 100th anniversary of Nelson Mandela's birth. I was moved nearly to tears by his eloquent defense of a liberal world order that President Donald Trump appears bent on destroying.
The first thing that struck me was what was missing: There was no self-praise and no name-calling. Obama has a far better claim than Trump to being a "very stable genius," but he didn't call himself one. The sentences were complete and sonorous - and probably written by the speaker himself. (Imagine Trump writing anything longer than a tweet - and even those are full of mistakes.) The tone was sober and high-minded, even if listeners could read between the lines a withering critique of Trump's policies.
Obama denounced the "politics of fear and resentment," the spread of "hatred and paranoia and propaganda and conspiracy theories," and "immigration policies based on race, or ethnicity, or religion." Gee, wonder who he had in mind? He rightly noted that "we now stand at a crossroads - a moment in time at which two very different visions of humanity's future compete for the hearts and minds of citizens around the world." He then rejected the dark vision propagated by Trump and the dictators he so admires.
After Trump-Putin summit, Obama warns against 'strongman' politics
"I believe in Nelson Mandela's vision," Obama said. "I believe in a vision shared by Gandhi and King and Abraham Lincoln. I believe in a vision of equality and justice and freedom and multiracial democracy, built on the premise that all people are created equal, and they're endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.
And I believe that a world governed by such principles is possible and that it can achieve more peace and more cooperation in pursuit of a common good." Even though I was thousands of miles away, I felt like cheering those stirring words.
No, I haven't forgotten the shortcomings of Obama's administration, but I've gained a new perspective on them.
Can you believe that an Obama-era scandal was that the president wore a tan suit or put his feet up on the desk? (Actual Washington Times headline from Sept. 4, 2013: "Obama's foot on Oval Office desk sends shockwaves around the world.") Oh, to have those days back again - before we had a president who was involved in indecent relationships with a Russian despot and (allegedly) a porn star.
What was supposedly the worst abuse of power committed by the Obama administration - the IRS investigations of conservative organizations - has been revealed as "fake news": It turns out that the IRS was also investigating liberal organizations. By contrast, evidence continues to accumulate about Trump scandals, from alleged campaign collusion with Russia to violations of the emoluments clause.
Obama may have told a few fibs, like any politician, but he was not a pathological liar.
Conservatives accused Obama of hating America and going on an "apology tour." Obama never claimed, however, that poor relations with Russia were the fault of "U.S. foolishness and stupidity" rather than Russian wrongdoing. Obama may have been naive in trying to "reset" relations with Moscow, but he did not say that Russian President Vladimir Pu-tin is a "fine" person -- and he did not endorse the Russian's lies over the truths unearthed by the U.S. intelligence community. The Iran nuclear deal was flawed, but it was infinitely stronger than the non-agreement Trump reached with North Korea. Obama even looks like a fiscal conservative compared with Trump, who is ushering in trillion-dollar deficits.
It can be depressing to think about our current predicament under a president whose loyalty to America is suspect but whose racism and xenophobia are undoubted.
However, Obama's speech gave me a glimmer of optimism - and not only because he cited Mandela's "example of persistence and of hope." He reminds me that just 18 months ago (can you believe it was so recently?) we had a president with whom I could disagree without ever doubting his fitness to lead. We can have one again.
Max Boot, a Washington Post columnist, is the Jeane J. Kirkpatrick senior fellow for national security studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and a global affairs analyst for CNN. He is the author of the forthcoming "The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right."
Bookmark NJ.com/Opinion. Follow on Twitter @NJ_Opinion and find NJ.com Opinion on Facebook.
Well, they are "FORMER" intelligence (I guess the head line forgot to mention that) - do they really need it?
Obviously this is Trump simply playing King of the hill at recess. These people spoke ill of him so now he wants to "get them back". But I really don't see this as a threat to freedom of speech, it's just a ch[ldish revenge game. Lets not forget that a corporation can fire their employees for what they post of Facebook or other media outlet - this is really no different.
But what did you expect? There are 3 things a government must control to control the masses. Media, Education, and Guns. The liberal left controls the Education, so there is 1, the liberal left has taken over the media, so there's 2, and the liberal lefts is trying to hand over the guns so that would be 3. What do you think is going to happen now that the left has established attacks on the constitution is fair game?
Moving forward I see our rights systematically being dismantled. And I see this happening with both Democratic and Republican presidents. The left pushes more and more government and social programs moving us closer and closer to a socialist government, while the Republicans strengthen the top 1% establishing the "******* line". I don't know of any socialist country that has freedom of speech, and your surprised?
from what I understand...YES they do..they still benefit the country....I understand brennan knows a lot about certain countries and when issues come up they still call him in because of his expertise and knowledge of the country/subject
but I'm sure Trump cares about none of that!...hell he doesn't listen to security anyway!
YEs control or discipline the ones that say what you don't want heard!....surprised it took him this long to find a way to get to him....after all EVERYONE that came to him before he was president and warned him about Russia....he has got rid of or silenced!
are we really going there...…..your love of the republican party coming out again and your bias is showing!
I will let it drop at that!
yes they are....but tell me....who is in control....and you can say the left is doing this...come on!
YES and go back and look through history of all the programs they have put out to help the country....can you name ONE the right has done?
see post 846 in this thread
yes and they are slowly destroying the country!
that started with Reagan and his one world....feeding the corps and then letting them go overseas...taking the manuf jobs with them...and then the dismantling of unions...taking away pay and benefits....and it has been going on since...and every time a republican gets in the process is stepped up...….like they can't wait to turn this country into another Mexico!
Says the party that wants to allow the flood of illegal immigrants LOL - What a Tool!.
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It was once written, and I quote, "No country is destroyed from without unless it is first destroyed from within!"
Again, this was never written. A thread started, and the first sentence is inaccurate. And a thread started on an inaccurate first sentence has gone 46 pages.
None of the original post has proven accurate, and none of the predictions have come true.
We'll wait I guess. It should be fun to bump this in a couple of years. Or maybe after the 2020 elections.
more words of wisdom from a fool?
Trump tying Brennan clearance to Russia probe is ‘connecting the dots’ for Mueller
CNN’s Jake Tapper said President Trump
Donald John TrumpNFL players stand in tunnel during anthem, extending protests12 former top intel officials blast Trump's move to revoke Brennan's security clearanceNYT: Omarosa believed to have as many as 200 tapesMORE is "connecting the dots" for special counsel Robert Mueller
Robert Swan MuellerSasse: US should applaud choice of Mueller to lead Russia probeMORE in his latest statements about revoking former CIA Director John Brennan
John Owen Brennan12 former top intel officials blast Trump's move to revoke Brennan's security clearanceTrump planning on revoking more security clearances: reportOvernight Defense: Pompeo creates 'action group' for Iran policy | Trump escalates intel feud | Report pegs military parade cost at MMORE’s security clearance.
It’s almost as if the president is connecting the dots for Robert Mueller,” Tapper said on Thursday’s edition of CNN's “The Lead with Jake Tapper."
Trump told The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday that he decided to pull the clearances of Brennan and consider those of other Obama-era intelligence officials who probed Russian interference in the 2016 election.
“I call it the rigged witch hunt, [it] is a sham. And these people led it!” Trump told the newspaper hours after it was announced Brennan's clearance was being revoked.
“So I think it’s something that had to be done," he added.
Tapper asked Thursday if Trump’s admission was opening “yet another door” for Mueller’s investigation.
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders read a statement from the president earlier this week, saying Brennan lost his security clearance because he posed a security threat.
“Mr. Brennan’s lying and recent conduct characterized by increasingly frenzied commentary is wholly inconsistent with access to the nation’s most closely held secrets and facilities, the very aim of our adversaries, which is to sow division and chaos,” the statement read.
She then denied the move was meant to silence Brennan, who is an outspoken Trump critic.
“So despite the best efforts of the White House staff to act as if this decision was about protecting classified information, President Trump made it clear it was actually about punishing one of his fiercest critics,” Tapper said.
“It’s just the latest example of President Trump openly contradicting an explanation concocted, frankly, and then offered by his advisers,” the anchor continued.
For another example, Tapper pointed to when Trump told NBC’s Lester Holt that he fired former FBI Director James Comey
James Brien ComeyTrump planning on revoking more security clearances: reportTrump escalates feud with intelligence officialsSteve Schmidt: Trump revoking Brennan's clearance shows his 'autocratic fetish'MORE over the Russia probe after his advisers claimed it was over the mishandling of the Clinton email server investigation.
Brennan also blasted Trump’s move as a “abuse of power” meant to silence him.
“I do believe that Mr. Trump decided to take this action, as he's done with others, to try to intimidate and suppress any criticism of him or his administration,” Brennan said during an interview on MSNBC Thursday.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/4...n-clearance-to-russia-probe-is-connecting-the
CNN’s Jake Tapper said President Trump
It’s almost as if the president is connecting the dots for Robert Mueller,” Tapper said on Thursday’s edition of CNN's “The Lead with Jake Tapper."
Trump told The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday that he decided to pull the clearances of Brennan and consider those of other Obama-era intelligence officials who probed Russian interference in the 2016 election.
“I call it the rigged witch hunt, [it] is a sham. And these people led it!” Trump told the newspaper hours after it was announced Brennan's clearance was being revoked.
“So I think it’s something that had to be done," he added.
Tapper asked Thursday if Trump’s admission was opening “yet another door” for Mueller’s investigation.
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders read a statement from the president earlier this week, saying Brennan lost his security clearance because he posed a security threat.
“Mr. Brennan’s lying and recent conduct characterized by increasingly frenzied commentary is wholly inconsistent with access to the nation’s most closely held secrets and facilities, the very aim of our adversaries, which is to sow division and chaos,” the statement read.
She then denied the move was meant to silence Brennan, who is an outspoken Trump critic.
“So despite the best efforts of the White House staff to act as if this decision was about protecting classified information, President Trump made it clear it was actually about punishing one of his fiercest critics,” Tapper said.
“It’s just the latest example of President Trump openly contradicting an explanation concocted, frankly, and then offered by his advisers,” the anchor continued.
For another example, Tapper pointed to when Trump told NBC’s Lester Holt that he fired former FBI Director James Comey
Brennan also blasted Trump’s move as a “abuse of power” meant to silence him.
“I do believe that Mr. Trump decided to take this action, as he's done with others, to try to intimidate and suppress any criticism of him or his administration,” Brennan said during an interview on MSNBC Thursday.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/4...n-clearance-to-russia-probe-is-connecting-the
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Dots are connected. Trump is head of Executive Branch. Brennan is a former employee of Executive branch. Trump has authority to pull clearances for whatever reason he wishes. Constitutional authority. Just as he can fire Comey for whatever he wanted to, and just as he can direct DOJ to investigate whatever he wants investigated.
Jake Tapper, who is obviously a Constitutional law expert, didn't seem to cite which part of US Code Trump is in violation of.
Clear thinking people understand this.
People whose knowledge comes from listening to television, and cutting and pasting? Not so much.
Jake Tapper, who is obviously a Constitutional law expert, didn't seem to cite which part of US Code Trump is in violation of.
Clear thinking people understand this.
People whose knowledge comes from listening to television, and cutting and pasting? Not so much.
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