Wake Up, America! Wake Up! PLEASE!!

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Subby said:
I do understand that many in the USA feel that it has been taken advantage of in the past re trade etc and there's probably some truth in it, or at least enough people believing it to act on it, but he's throwing the baby out with the bath water.
To reiterate, USA does not exist in a vacuum and we all need friends and allies.
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there is some truth to that....china has been taking advantage of us for a long time...hell we paid for that big military they have now....but China has been doing the same with a lot of countries......he could have went to the WTO and everyone got together,,,been better and had more meaning......but I think he wants to tank our economy.....just me being bitter about all the ******* he has done....and his aids say he really sucks up to p.utin on his phone calls...….and who knows what they talk about in their private meetings.....with trump everything is about money.…the world saw his last meeting when trump was so meek in his statement about P.utin…..and putin wanting to break up NATO...and take away our influence in the world.....seems to be working.....but the right is just as greedy as trump....and to stupid to see it....all they see is the tax breaks and etc he gave them...…..and the deficit....saying nothing about it....country will be fucked for years when he gets done....all with the support of the right and these trumptards
 
another of those two faced republicans who said one thing under the Clinton impeachment and now say the exact opposite under trump..…..but this guy got caught "altering " Clintons emails to make her look guilty....and the did nor said anything....the party of law and order showing that is far from what they want

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The situation with Turkey, I admit is scary, As Subby says the USA does not exist in a vacuum and we all need friends and allies. The USA spends about 50 billion a year for foreign aide. But, at this time our country is rebelling against itself and not dealing with the basic needs of the American people, the truth is one can't help others until one helps themselves. The problems in our country now run much deeper then Trump as president as that man is doing his best (whatever that my be) but the debate between Democrats and Republicans is way out of hand. Donald Trump is not the problem, as he has come onto the scene, the volcano is boiling over with so many people that have had life better then most of the world, causing all this hate to show itself. We as a nation have to many people that have become so comfortable, that if some misfortune don't personally effect themselves, they have become self-indulgent and not satisfied.
 
It is worth bearing in mind that Trump's comments the other day have directly resulted in tens of thousands of people being driven from their homes. Families with children on the road and with no destination clear to them.
That's on top of those being killed obviously. Erdogan is a psychopath and has been given the green light to attack the Kurds, whether trump and co care to admit it or not.
 
Hottobe cucked said:
The situation with Turkey, I admit is scary, As Subby says the USA does not exist in a vacuum and we all need friends and allies. The USA spends about 50 billion a year for foreign aide. But, at this time our country is rebelling against itself and not dealing with the basic needs of the American people, the truth is one can't help others until one helps themselves. The problems in our country now run much deeper then Trump as president as that man is doing his best (whatever that my be) but the debate between Democrats and Republicans is way out of hand. Donald Trump is not the problem, as he has come onto the scene, the volcano is boiling over with so many people that have had life better then most of the world, causing all this hate to show itself. We as a nation have to many people that have become so comfortable, that if some misfortune don't personally effect themselves, they have become self-indulgent and not satisfied.
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I always say that with diversity, you get chaos. And with centralized control of a diverse populace, you get resentment. Unless power is ceded back to the states, we will go the way the Soviet Union went when their constituent republics decided to go their own way.
 
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Subby said:
It is worth bearing in mind that Trump's comments the other day have directly resulted in tens of thousands of people being driven from their homes. Families with children on the road and with no destination clear to them.
That's on top of those being killed obviously. Erdogan is a psychopath and has been given the green light to attack the Kurds, whether trump and co care to admit it or not.
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I HATE that we abandoned the Kurds - those poor proud people ALWAYS seem to get the ******* end of the stick. REALLY disappointed in the decision to leave them in the lurch.
 
Hottobe cucked said:
The situation with Turkey, I admit is scary
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they were our allies and fought along side of us....and took the most casualties....and this is how we treat them?

Hottobe cucked said:
USA does not exist in a vacuum and we all need friends and allies
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trump has done his best to alienate all of them...they way he treats and talks to them......like he is king and they are nothing...being leader of what was the largest and most respected country in the world probably went to his head....but they are all world leader also.....and according to his aides does not show any respect at all!

Hottobe cucked said:
But, at this time our country is rebelling against itself
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that started back with Gingrich and has just got worse...the 2 parties do not and will not work together anymore and the division is hurting the country and spreading around the country

Hottobe cucked said:
the truth is one can't help others until one helps themselves.
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true but here....America is for sale....greed took over a long time ago....now it is just...."what can you do for me"....and fuck everyone else

Hottobe cucked said:
The problems in our country now run much deeper
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That is because the right does all they can to stop the people from having a voting voice in what is going on.....this country was founded on that basic principal and yet the right is doing away with it...what happened to "no taxation without representation"
guess some of these rich fuckers forgot about that part of history

Hottobe cucked said:
Democrats and Republicans is way out of hand.
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goes back to Gingrich and his contract with America...that started the divide...and has just compounded over the years....throw in people like Rush Limbaugh...O'rielly...Hannity and a few others that just promote the hate in the name of greed



Hottobe cucked said:
Donald Trump is not the problem
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true....the people who elected him have been having these "desires" for a long time now and just he opened the wound......although he is doing nothing for America except making himself rich and taking care of Russia first....that's who is paying him....even some of his aides talk about how he sucks up to p.utin...now he has changed things an no one allowed in room when he is on the phone!

Hottobe cucked said:
We as a nation have to many people that have become so comfortable
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and who would you call comfortable?....the avg American has just been getting by for years.....this country has the highest income in equality of any other nation....the wealthy just keep getting richer while the good jobs go overseas.....the right has fought to keep the living wage down while the cost of living has continued to rise....China and etc sure didn't tell all those corps to move over there....these corps all say they can't afford the high taxes corps here pay...@35%...but with all the tax loop holes we take in to the gov less then just about all of the other countries....the gov it's self is about to go bankrupt...especially the way the defict going.....and with the latest tax cuts...who is going to bail out the gov...….sure won't be the right...they have invested pretty well else where......look at GE.....made 2.75 million last year....got 3.1 million in subsidies from the us gov...and still losing money...guess we need to give them more.....that is a big part of the problem with the country


30-40 years ago the country was doing fine everyone working....buying ...spending...40hour week with vacations...health care you could afford if it wasn't already supplied.....but American greed took all that away....wages went down...work more hours..vacations and health care rarely given....and wage income inequality soared....the right keeps trying their trickle down economics...like trump is doing now.....and each time the country went into a recession.....giving huge tax breaks to the rich has never solved the problem......look at AT&T...what did they do with their tax breaks...….used it to open all new call centers in India and close what they have here....

I could go on but already said more than a mouthful and most won't read it anyway...….
the key to a prosperous nation is not giving to the rich in hopes it will trickle down...….the key is a well paid worker who will pay taxes...go out and buy locally creating more jobs with what he spends....the worker/middle America is what makes the economy....and until someone figures that out we will always have "issues"
 
Allforthewifey said:
You still want to place 100% blame on republicans the other side did there fair share of Fucking. We need term limits.
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term limits yes......but the blame does fall squarely on the republicans...…..the worker didn't create all those tax loop holes......the workers didn't ask for less money and benefits....the workers didn't put the price of things so high they are ****** to buy at wal mart....the workers are not the ones trying to restrict voting from those that don't vote for the right....cut voting hours...gerrymander and etc...….you just keep your head in your ass....apparently it seems to work ...for you
 
just more of the rich trying to take care of the rich...…..probably nothing happen...just for show

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subhub174014 said:
term limits yes......but the blame does fall squarely on the republicans...…..the worker didn't create all those tax loop holes......the workers didn't ask for less money and benefits....the workers didn't put the price of things so high they are ****** to buy at wal mart....the workers are not the ones trying to restrict voting from those that don't vote for the right....cut voting hours...gerrymander and etc...….you just keep your head in your ass....apparently it seems to work ...for you
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i no a lot of republican workers worker doesn't equal democrat
 
Allforthewifey said:
and more this yr the democratic party is done for Americans finally figured out there only for themselves. They want you done and out
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sure they do....they vote in all these laws the benefit the ones with money


cry me a river....you are the epitome of a republican that likes to keep the worker down and your income higher
 
not looking good for rudy g...…..bet he ends up in jail before this is all done....milking money out of Ukraine...money that the US gave them....then funneling it back to trump....then plays a big part in the blackmail...to get them to dig dirt on Biden....and we have been on them for corruption....and hell we are teaching them how
 
Allforthewifey said:
democrats fantasy
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FACTS!

this is just the start of his admin and has got worse!

The number of money scandals in Trumpland is overwhelming
The Economist

AS A candidate, Donald Trump promised to “drain the swamp” and make government work for ordinary Americans. As a president, he presides over a staggeringly fetid administration. His former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, even wears clothes made from swamp creatures. Among the luxury goods on display during his trial on 32 counts of financial fraud and money-laundering was a python coat for which he paid $18,500, nearly twice what he paid for an ostrich waistcoat, but a mere fraction of what he spent on clothes, rugs, and garden landscaping—all funded by lobbying for foreign governments.

The prosecution alleged that Mr Manafort lowballed his income by $16.5m so as to pay less tax, and fraudulently obtained $20m worth of bank loans (none of Mr Manafort’s 31 foreign bank accounts were apparently willing or able to supply the necessary credit). The government’s lawyers also provided evidence that Mr Manafort dangled a job in the White House in front of a banker from whom he hoped to borrow. In response, Mr Manafort’s lawyers sought to remind jurors that he was a Republican, perhaps hoping that tribal loyalty would sway some of them to agree with the president that government prosecutors were engaged in a “total witch hunt”.

Mr Manafort’s case is the most outlandish, but it is no outlier in Trumpland. The president’s former fixer, Michael Cohen, is under investigation for fraud. Neither man served in the White House, but plenty of other people followed around by money scandals have. Two cabinet officials—Scott Pruitt and Tom Price—have been ****** out amid ethics scandals (Mr Price spent over $1m of taxpayer money on private and military flights; Mr Pruitt’s alleged violations were too numerous to list). Other administration officials have similar concerns nipping at their heels. Democrats hope to convince voters that congressional Republicans bear some responsibility—and should pay the price in November—for the administration’s ethics deficit. That may prove harder than they would like.





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If so, it will not be for a lack of targets. On August 13th, the Campaign Legal Centre (CLC), a non-partisan ethical watchdog, filed an extensive complaint against Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary, urging the Commerce Department’s inspector general to investigate him. The complaint alleges that Mr Ross helped make policy decisions that could have affected stock and other interests that he did not fully disclose that he owned. Mr Ross, via his personal lawyer, denied wrongdoing.

The Office of Government Ethics, an independent agency, has already accused Mr Ross of contravening his ethics agreement by taking short positions on holdings he promised to divest, and of “omissions and inaccurate statements”. John Thune, a Republican senator from South Dakota, joined Democrats in urging an investigation of Mr Ross’s finances. In July Mr Ross admitted to “inadvertent errors in completing the divestitures required by my ethics agreement”, and promised to sell his equities and put the proceeds into Treasury bonds. Mr Ross has previously faced allegations of concealing an investment in a Russian shipping firm with ties to Vladimir Poroshenko’s *******-in-law. Forbes, which is to billionaires as Sports Illustrated is to swimsuits, has accused Mr Ross of inflating his wealth and reports that “many of those who worked directly with him claim that Ross wrongly siphoned or outright stole a few million here and a few million there”, an accusation Mr Ross also denies.
Five days before the CLC filed its complaint against Mr Ross, Chris Collins, a congressman from upstate New York and the first sitting member of Congress to back Mr Trump in 2016, was arrested. Federal prosecutors allege that he tipped off his ******* that a biotech firm, on whose board he served and in which he was one of the largest shareholders, had a disappointing ******* trial. His *******, who was also charged, allegedly sold his shares and then tipped off four other people. Both Mr Collinses plead not guilty to the charges. Mr Collins has suspended his re-election campaign and is trying to remove his name from the ballot.

Many smaller scandals that would ordinarily draw more attention have become so much background noise. Earlier this year Brenda Fitzgerald resigned from running the Centres for Disease Control, America’s federal public-health agency, after she was discovered trading tobacco stocks. Ben Carson, the secretary of housing and urban development, spent $31,000 of taxpayers’ money on a dining-room set for his office. He accepted responsibility, but also explained: “I left it to my wife, you know, help choose something...I dismissed myself from this issue.”





Ryan Zinke, the interior secretary, has charged taxpayers for his private-jet travel, and failed to disclose that he owned shares in a gun firm in Montana and then met executives and lobbyists from that firm. A spokesman said that the value of shares was below the threshold required for disclosure, and that anyway the meeting was a social call. The desire to avoid other passengers while flying has been a recurring theme: last year Steve Mnuchin, the treasury secretary, took eight trips by military aircraft, costing taxpayers almost $1m.

And then there are all the Trump family hangers-on who have found jobs in the federal bureaucracy. Eric Trump’s former wedding planner runs the New York branch of the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development. On August 7th ProPublica, an investigative-journalism non-profit, reported that three members of Mar-a-Lago, the president’s swish country club in Palm Beach, exercise undue influence within the Department of Veterans Affairs—despite the fact that none of them has ever served in the government or the armed forces.

All this is before taking into consideration any conflicts of interest on the part of Mr Trump himself. Democrats have dusted off the phrase “culture of corruption”, which they used to great effect in the 2006 mid-terms. Then, George W. Bush’s administration was tottering after it turned out that the federal government’s response to Hurricane Katrina was being led by an Arabian-horse enthusiast appointed by Mr Bush. The 2006 election also coincided with a money scandal involving Jack Abramoff, a Republican lobbyist, which has many echoes of Mr Manafort’s escapades. Democrats hope to connect the current administration’s ethical woes to a broader tale of Republicans blithely backstroking around the swamp that Mr Trump was supposed to drain.

Yet it is unlikely that voters in, say, Arkansas will care enough about the ethical failings of a congressman from upstate New York whom they have never heard of, or of the cabinet secretary of a department with obscure responsibilities, to vote against a Republican candidate whom otherwise they would have supported. Asked whether the Trump administration’s scandals have come up in North Dakota’s hotly contested Senate race, Jim Fuglie, a former state Democratic Party official-turned-pundit, says that voters are more worried about tariffs. North Dakota’s Senate race, he argues, “turns on the price of soyabeans …If it’s $6, [Heidi] Heitkamp [the Democratic incumbent] wins.” Laura Belin, author of “******* Heartland”, a blog about Iowa politics, says she doesn’t think “the public at large is really tuned into” the administration’s ethics scandals. Those are mainly fodder for “the activist class”.





Mr Trump’s administration may be so scandal-ridden that each ethical peccadillo just seems like more of the same. Stephen Bannon, his ousted adviser, famously said that the way to win is to “flood the zone with *******”, thereby overwhelming anyone’s ability to focus on one thing for more than a single news cycle. “Maybe we’re just like the rest of the country,” says Mr Fuglie. “We’re shaking our heads, and saying, ‘Oh, jeez—there he goes again’.”

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