Wake Up, America! Wake Up! PLEASE!!

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so how did he make them carry out what they did its ridiculous to blame the president i would blame his family friends teachers etc

well on two separate occasions...one recently....they both said they were worried about "the invasion of immigrants"....just what trump said about a year ago in a speech
do you know the violence in the counties where he has had a rally has risen over 200%
the guy incites violence...he campaigned on it and has never quit...made no effort to unite the country instead just created a bigger rift
 
You should know by now that @subhub174014 always manages to find clouds within any silver linings we find with Trump. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
There's only one silver lining with Trump, STIFF, and that is that his days are numbered, either by voting him out or by impeachment. Basically, if the 2020 election is allowed to proceed as the 2016 election did, the 2020 election will be like a national basketball title where one team is allowed to foul, commit violations as the referees (judges in this case) turn their heads and don't make the calls, while the other team is charged with fouls and violations as they should be. And even IF the democrats win the 2020 election, expect Trump & minions to cry RIGGED and hold up the election for months. Afterall, as soon as Trump walks out the White House door as a "past president" he's going to be arrested, either by federal marshals or by the state of NY and tried in a court of law.

"justitia est commodatum"
..... (Latin - justice is served)
 
There's only one silver lining with Trump, STIFF, and that is that his days are numbered, either by voting him out or by impeachment. Basically, if the 2020 election is allowed to proceed as the 2016 election did, the 2020 election will be like a national basketball title where one team is allowed to foul, commit violations as the referees (judges in this case) turn their heads and don't make the calls, while the other team is charged with fouls and violations as they should be. And even IF the democrats win the 2020 election, expect Trump & minions to cry RIGGED and hold up the election for months. Afterall, as soon as Trump walks out the White House door as a "past president" he's going to be arrested, either by federal marshals or by the state of NY and tried in a court of law.

"justitia est commodatum"
..... (Latin - justice is served)
Maybe @MacNfries but who is to say should Trump survive until his successor replaces him in 2025 after he/she is sworn in. I am not saying that this will be the case but consider all the grooming and nurturing Ivanka has been getting literally in the Oval office meeting heads of state and various world leaders and Central Bank heads around the world. Would it be within the realm of imagination that Ivanka Trump could be America's 46th POTUS? In which case either she, or maybe Pence should he run and win, or some other Republican victor, would be in a position to pardon Trump should your dystopic scenario ever manifest into reality? :unsure:

You denied me the possibility with that other poll with that individual that we both know, who now prefers to be unnamed, the possibility that Trump would ever last this long 3 years ago, so who is to say that this other scenario might come to pass in 2025 after Trump's successor is sworn in? :unsure::unsure:
 
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Charles Manson never killed anyone or mad anyone ******* either.
Are you sure Charles Manson never killed anyone? His wiki page differs with you @Zwing?

Sentencing
Manson was admitted to state prison from Los Angeles County on April 22, 1971, for seven counts of first-degree ******* and one count of conspiracy to commit ******* for the deaths of Abigail Ann Folger, Wojciech Frykowski, Steven Earl Parent, Sharon Tate Polanski, Jay Sebring, and Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. He was sentenced to death. When the death penalty was ruled unconstitutional in 1972, he was resentenced to life with the possibility of parole. His original death sentence was modified to life on February 2, 1977.

On December 13, 1971, Manson was convicted of first-degree ******* in Los Angeles County Court for the July 25, 1969 death of musician Gary Hinman. He was also convicted of first-degree ******* for the August 1969 death of Donald Jerome "Shorty" Shea. A footnote to the conclusion of California v. Anderson, the 1972 decision that neutralized California's death sentences, stated that, "any prisoner now under a sentence of death ... may file a petition for writ of habeas corpus in the superior court inviting that court to modify its judgment to provide for the appropriate alternative punishment of life imprisonment or life imprisonment without possibility of parole specified by statute for the crime for which he was sentenced to death."[42] This made Manson eligible to apply for parole after seven years' incarceration.[43]Accordingly, his first parole hearing took place on November 16, 1978, at California Medical Facility in Vacaville, and his petition was rejected.[44][45]

 
Are you sure Charles Manson never killed anyone? His wiki page differs with you @Zwing?

Sentencing
Manson was admitted to state prison from Los Angeles County on April 22, 1971, for seven counts of first-degree ******* and one count of conspiracy to commit ******* for the deaths of Abigail Ann Folger, Wojciech Frykowski, Steven Earl Parent, Sharon Tate Polanski, Jay Sebring, and Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. He was sentenced to death. When the death penalty was ruled unconstitutional in 1972, he was resentenced to life with the possibility of parole. His original death sentence was modified to life on February 2, 1977.

On December 13, 1971, Manson was convicted of first-degree ******* in Los Angeles County Court for the July 25, 1969 death of musician Gary Hinman. He was also convicted of first-degree ******* for the August 1969 death of Donald Jerome "Shorty" Shea. A footnote to the conclusion of California v. Anderson, the 1972 decision that neutralized California's death sentences, stated that, "any prisoner now under a sentence of death ... may file a petition for writ of habeas corpus in the superior court inviting that court to modify its judgment to provide for the appropriate alternative punishment of life imprisonment or life imprisonment without possibility of parole specified by statute for the crime for which he was sentenced to death."[42] This made Manson eligible to apply for parole after seven years' incarceration.[43]Accordingly, his first parole hearing took place on November 16, 1978, at California Medical Facility in Vacaville, and his petition was rejected.[44][45]

Charles Manson never killed anyone or mad anyone ******* either.
he certainly gave instructions and the address
 
There's only one silver lining with Trump, STIFF, and that is that his days are numbered, either by voting him out or by impeachment. Basically, if the 2020 election is allowed to proceed as the 2016 election did, the 2020 election will be like a national basketball title where one team is allowed to foul, commit violations as the referees (judges in this case) turn their heads and don't make the calls, while the other team is charged with fouls and violations as they should be. And even IF the democrats win the 2020 election, expect Trump & minions to cry RIGGED and hold up the election for months. Afterall, as soon as Trump walks out the White House door as a "past president" he's going to be arrested, either by federal marshals or by the state of NY and tried in a court of law.

"justitia est commodatum"
..... (Latin - justice is served)


I read from a couple of people they think it will take a police ******* to get him out of the white house...he will leave kicking and screaming ..no other way
 
Are you sure Charles Manson never killed anyone? His wiki page differs with you @Zwing?

Sentencing
Manson was admitted to state prison from Los Angeles County on April 22, 1971, for seven counts of first-degree ******* and one count of conspiracy to commit ******* for the deaths of Abigail Ann Folger, Wojciech Frykowski, Steven Earl Parent, Sharon Tate Polanski, Jay Sebring, and Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. He was sentenced to death. When the death penalty was ruled unconstitutional in 1972, he was resentenced to life with the possibility of parole. His original death sentence was modified to life on February 2, 1977.

On December 13, 1971, Manson was convicted of first-degree ******* in Los Angeles County Court for the July 25, 1969 death of musician Gary Hinman. He was also convicted of first-degree ******* for the August 1969 death of Donald Jerome "Shorty" Shea. A footnote to the conclusion of California v. Anderson, the 1972 decision that neutralized California's death sentences, stated that, "any prisoner now under a sentence of death ... may file a petition for writ of habeas corpus in the superior court inviting that court to modify its judgment to provide for the appropriate alternative punishment of life imprisonment or life imprisonment without possibility of parole specified by statute for the crime for which he was sentenced to death."[42] This made Manson eligible to apply for parole after seven years' incarceration.[43]Accordingly, his first parole hearing took place on November 16, 1978, at California Medical Facility in Vacaville, and his petition was rejected.[44][45]



as usual there stiff your facts are not right......let me correct that for you also!
trump and Manson ….two peas in a pod!
so we could try him on ******* charges

Charles
Manson was convicted on seven counts of first-degree ******* for his role in a two-night killing spree in 1969. However, Manson did not actually ******* any of the victims himself.

The Manson Family Was Found Guilty -- But Did Charlie ...
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/crime-history/the-manson-family-was...
Jan 25, 2018 · More allegations exist and, it’s possible, more will crop up in the future. So, again, Charles Manson was never convicted of actually murdering anyone by his own hand. Many experts and amateur followers of the case believe, however, that …
 
as usual there stiff your facts are not right......let me correct that for you also!
trump and Manson ….two peas in a pod!
so we could try him on ******* charges

Charles
Manson was convicted on seven counts of first-degree ******* for his role in a two-night killing spree in 1969. However, Manson did not actually ******* any of the victims himself.

The Manson Family Was Found Guilty -- But Did Charlie ...
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/crime-history/the-manson-family-was...
Jan 25, 2018 · More allegations exist and, it’s possible, more will crop up in the future. So, again, Charles Manson was never convicted of actually murdering anyone by his own hand. Many experts and amateur followers of the case believe, however, that …
My reference came exactly out of wikipedia's reference of Charles Manson @subhub174014. If that is inaccurate you should have them correct it.
 
He will turn it over to the next republican in 2024
I think the right has pretty much worn out their welcome

Trump and Women, Independents: Worrisome Signs ...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/03/22/trump_and_women_independents...
Mar 22, 2018 · Overall, only 20 percent of Independent women (and less than 30 percent of Independents overall) want Trump to run for re-election. Given that Trump needed a healthy majority of Independents to win in 2016, his lackluster support among this group should cause him and the GOP substantial heartburn.
 
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