Trump lost moving on with new year go Biden

Latina4BBC said:
more socialism for people. So you support sitting on your ass while the “people” pay for your lazy asses
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First of all, I'll match my income and investments with yours anyday.
You'll have to show proof though, you've already lied about some government job you had that paid $200k and your pension is over $100k.
The thing about government work is that it's categorized, ranked and you're able to look up job classifications and salaries.

You can learn a lot through the Office of Personnel Management. Like your alleged salary is a much higher pay cap than the General Schedule calls for. The GS sets the salaries for the vast majority of federal employees and cap annual pay -- before adjusting for locality -- at just less than $130,000.

Not bad, but, what jobs were paying 200k plus in the 2000 teens? Well, highly specialized positions. About 16000 of them on the federal payroll. Vast majority were medical officers at the VA. As a high school drop out, who probably finished later, we know you this isn't you. So looking at the departments I noticed that those jobs were highly specialized (lots of education and experience) and not really in your wheelhouse there Capt. Ron. So, you're lying. And, as someone who does make that kind of money- it's not a lot. Taxes, investments/savings, know it all ******* in college, decent home and cars, social life, and you find yourself looking to double that.

Oh, we already got socialism, so assholes like you can sit back in their shacks on the ocean, and expect the government to rebuild it, right there, after every hurricane. FEMA. Also, there is social security, medicare, baby labor laws, minimum wage, subsidies for agriculture and energy industries, bailouts for banks and businesses like airlines and auto industry, public universities, and many more but that's enough for your head. All of those things go against free market driven capitalism, and were considered socialism. So which program are you ready to throw out?
 
ed4mwf said:
First of all, I'll match my income and investments with yours anyday.
You'll have to show proof though, you've already lied about some government job you had that paid $200k and your pension is over $100k.
The thing about government work is that it's categorized, ranked and you're able to look up job classifications and salaries.

You can learn a lot through the Office of Personnel Management. Like your alleged salary is a much higher pay cap than the General Schedule calls for. The GS sets the salaries for the vast majority of federal employees and cap annual pay -- before adjusting for locality -- at just less than $130,000.

Not bad, but, what jobs were paying 200k plus in the 2000 teens? Well, highly specialized positions. About 16000 of them on the federal payroll. Vast majority were medical officers at the VA. As a high school drop out, who probably finished later, we know you this isn't you. So looking at the departments I noticed that those jobs were highly specialized (lots of education and experience) and not really in your wheelhouse there Capt. Ron. So, you're lying. And, as someone who does make that kind of money- it's not a lot. Taxes, investments/savings, know it all ******* in college, decent home and cars, social life, and you find yourself looking to double that.

Oh, we already got socialism, so assholes like you can sit back in their shacks on the ocean, and expect the government to rebuild it, right there, after every hurricane. FEMA. Also, there is social security, medicare, baby labor laws, minimum wage, subsidies for agriculture and energy industries, bailouts for banks and businesses like airlines and auto industry, public universities, and many more but that's enough for your head. All of those things go against free market driven capitalism, and were considered socialism. So which program are you ready to throw out?
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ed4mwf said:
First of all, I'll match my income and investments with yours anyday.
You'll have to show proof though, you've already lied about some government job you had that paid $200k and your pension is over $100k.
The thing about government work is that it's categorized, ranked and you're able to look up job classifications and salaries.

You can learn a lot through the Office of Personnel Management. Like your alleged salary is a much higher pay cap than the General Schedule calls for. The GS sets the salaries for the vast majority of federal employees and cap annual pay -- before adjusting for locality -- at just less than $130,000.

Not bad, but, what jobs were paying 200k plus in the 2000 teens? Well, highly specialized positions. About 16000 of them on the federal payroll. Vast majority were medical officers at the VA. As a high school drop out, who probably finished later, we know you this isn't you. So looking at the departments I noticed that those jobs were highly specialized (lots of education and experience) and not really in your wheelhouse there Capt. Ron. So, you're lying. And, as someone who does make that kind of money- it's not a lot. Taxes, investments/savings, know it all ******* in college, decent home and cars, social life, and you find yourself looking to double that.

Oh, we already got socialism, so assholes like you can sit back in their shacks on the ocean, and expect the government to rebuild it, right there, after every hurricane. FEMA. Also, there is social security, medicare, baby labor laws, minimum wage, subsidies for agriculture and energy industries, bailouts for banks and businesses like airlines and auto industry, public universities, and many more but that's enough for your head. All of those things go against free market driven capitalism, and were considered socialism. So which program are you ready to throw out?
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OK Mr know it all air traffic controllers pay is not tied to the General Schedule... DA. We have our own pay system. A typical government employee under FERS gets 1% of their high three. Controllers get 1.7%. mutiplied by years of service. It's a three tiered system. High three, Social Security Supplement and Thrift Savings Plan (TSP). Although I am not SS eligible the FAA pays me what I would get if I were eligible. I have the option to bow out when I am eligible and can wait until I am older to collect even more money. The majority of my fellow retirees have between $750,000-$1,000,000 in the TSP at retirement. The government matches up to 5% of contributions. I always maxed it out. We have the option to take an annuity from the TSP to add to our pension. My base salary was $187,000 including locality pay. So 20 years times 1.7% = 34% of the high three, TSP annuity and SS supplement. But wait there's more. I bought back my military time which adds 1% to the 34% for every year of active service which was 12 years. I know math isn't your strong point so 34% + 12% = 46%. You still with me? For me that means I get 46% of $187,000 which is roughly $86,000 per year just for my pension. I don't need the TSP annuity so there it sits. I have to withdraw a portion when I turn 72. Starting November I will start receiving my military pension which is about $1500/month. Here goes math again $1500 x 12 = $18,000. I know it's difficult but you'll be OK. $86,000 + $18,000 = $104,000 per year to sit my ass on the beach for the rest of my life. And that doesn't include the $2,000 or so a month I could withdraw as an annuity from my TSP.
When I was working my base pay of $187,000 did not include 10% night differential, 25% for working Sundays (roughly $ 9,000 per year and if I worked the 10 federal holidays, double time. About another $9,000 per year. When I trained a new controller I got 10%. The controllers in New York get a $3,000 bonus for every successful trainee on top of the 10% because it's difficult to one get people certified and two it's hard to fill the positions. And 10% controller incentive pay (CIP) (About $12000/year) Just my base salary and CIP comes to about $199,000/year. Add all the other pay (Sunday pay, night differential, holiday pay, trainer pay) and I was easily over $200k/year. Any "entitlements "over the $187,000 has nothing to do with the base pay salary cap. That doesn't include overtime which happened a lot.
The last couple of years of my career I was in management. If we got a raise in January I would be paid a lump sum payment because a raise would put me over the cap. Oh and if government employees do get a raise in January then the controllers get another raise in June of 1.6% per union contract. So lets say the January raise is 2% then the controllers will get an additional 1.6% the following June. Zero if there is no January pay raise. I thought it was pretty cool when Trump first got elected there was an employee borrowed by the FAA to do whatever job it was. He was the highest paid employee. More than Kellyanne and the rest because they fall under the GS. A totally different pay system. Again you're talking out of your ass with no idea WTF you're talking about.
  1. New Hampshire average air traffic controller salary: $147,350
  2. Virginia average air traffic controller salary: $139,520
  3. Illinois average air traffic controller salary: $136,390
  4. Georgia average air traffic controller salary: $136,210
  5. Texas average air traffic controller salary: $133,260
  6. California average air traffic controller salary: $132,300
  7. Minnesota average air traffic controller salary: $131,330
  8. Ohio average air traffic controller salary: $131,180
  9. New York average air traffic controller salary: $130,840
  10. Colorado average air traffic controller salary: $128,210
These average salaries do not include, night differential, Sunday pay, holiday pay, controller incentive pay (CIP), or locality pay.
 
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The polls are open in Virginia!!! Just cast my vote and NARY a MAGA hat or sign in sight! Just Democrat voters lined up with sample ballots in their hands for how to vote on all issues (ain’t gonna be no state constitutional changes allowing for no gerrymandering around here!). THE LONG AWAITED GREAT TRUMP BEATDOWN IS ON :cool:
 
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blkdlaur said:
Yes need to vote before debates - so you’re not ashamed of voting for a defective candidate - understood.
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The defective candidate is yours . . . he's had the last 4 years now to show us what he's got . . . there's nothing his sorry ass can say in a few debates that's going to change anything. Too late!!! It's already known what Trump is about, and he needs to be stopped. FUCK 'im :mad:
 
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