Stag Vixen (non-cuckold)
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Hornycouple778
Couple
Without all these terms ..in our marriage i love watching him grope women and give pleasure ..just like he likes when another has done to me. But we both know its just him and I who will ultimately give each other the best sex after we played. I want HIM to be who puts the fire out because he knows this pussy best just like I know his cock and his needs best. So for me I just see a BBC as that. No DOM or Sissy calling. But like I said before to each there own. Straight forward no BS. Lol rant over carry on
We have been in this game for a dozen years. We are 100% Stag & Vixen (long before those names were used). Nothing but mutual respect all around or nobody has any sex. Cuckolds have their things and its WAY cool and I respect that kink, it's just not for us.
Appreciate your comments! All about respect!
While stag/vixen is better than cuck, etc. labeling, we still come down on the side of not needing to have a label put to what we do. From the beginning of our playing in the LS, there has always been the aspect of playing with BMs. Why? Because it was, and IS, something we both desire. Complete and total authority to say "no" to anyone or anything from the beginning has been THE rule. I never wanted to fuck any BM I wasn't totally attracted to and he never wanted me to fuck anyone he didn't approve of, period. We hate labels because once a label is on something, someone else who is not "you and your husband" is trying to define said label for you. Fuck that. We play in the manner that we like and have no need for someone NOT playing with us attempting to define our play style for us. Without the labels, then you are in charge and get to play however you like without labels. YMMV.
To each his own. Of all websites, this is one where the judgmental should not join.
Your stag/vixen relationship seems to allow the stag some power over who you have sex with. I applaud that as your preference. Power sharing is a path many find most satisfying. We tried that and neither were happy.
For us the cuckold relationship is more about power and control, with me having both.
In my opinion, cucky sucking the Bull’s cock is an act of dominance and submission foremost - yes the sexual act is important but not the primary meaning.
All actions have context. If I told a man that he needed to let another man put his finger up his prostate, you might label both as bi or gay, but in the context of a doctor giving an annual prostrate exam you probably wouldn’t.
However in the context of this act, cucky is very definitely bisexual. (I remember how he hated the ‘bi’ label at first.). But I don’t see the Bull at all that way, despite cucky being a good cocksucker.
I don’t want to see the Bull suck cucky - that is a HUGE turnoff! Cucky is a beta - I need a Bull who is an alpha.
You are not alone in your binary interpretation - many Bulls we’ve met share your opinion. We found them to be less creative and less willing to explore. There is a predictable quality to this dynamic that is reassuring for some, but something we find uninteresting very quickly.
We do play with Bulls on occasion who are averse to cucky sucking them, yet curiously they allow their penis to touch his penis during dv!
The bisexual label has always been controversial, especially with traditionalists. We have met more than our share of people who view the world strictly through the binary lens of gay/straight. They believe bisexuals ate gays who haven’t ‘gone all the way.’
Of course these experiences are our own interpretations.
Respect is knowing and honoring everyone’s limits and conditions. Certainly if cucky did not want a Bull (or other person) in our life I would likely accede.
Not to be nit picky, but how can a stag/vixen relationship be one of equals?
If he wanted to have sex with others is that permitted? Would you have a say in his partner if so?
Don’t want to knock your relationship. Our cuckolding started off as stag/vixen and it did not work for us. We realized that inherently it is a power imbalance and we found giving her all the power is best in our case.
But I don’t see how stag/vixen is an arrangement of equals. Nothing wrong with that btw.
Yes it is more refreshing than talk of ending the Caucasian race,
And it is thought provoking.
LOVERHUSBAND
Couple
What a great argument. I find many different games to be sexy and erotic. As much as I adore my wife and love for her to enjoy her sexuality withvother men, I am not a submissive man. I love to watch Meg getting fucked insane. I just dont have the temperament to be submissive. The Vixen lifestyle is more us.
So glad you put out this discussion. We are also a Stag couple and been like that for many years and we both love the lifestyle and have fun when our busy personal lives allow us to go out and play. After many years we are getting back into it and by enquiring black gentlemen about having some adult fun we are now being asked about our preferences, to us preference meant use of condoms always. Some of the questions that we are now encountered are: Are you in to creampies, do you like cleaning your wife, do you like cleaning the BBC, do you like to give the BBC a BJ together with wife and so on. Now we understand more clearly the distinction between the cuckold and Stag thanks to this discussion. Also I the husband have a strong personality and I'm the one that decides who she has fun with. She respects this and it helps knowing what she likes and all our experiences with BBC have been great. Now there is a sense of curiosity in some couples which it is one of the reasons we got in to swinging and later husbands asking the wife if she is willing to play with another female that to me was so fricking unbelievable the first time she did it, till today it has been one of my favorite moments to remember and for her was like no big deal, it was awesome because she knew I was enjoying it and both ladies gave us the husbands a freaking hot show, I thought I was in heaven. Same type of felling the first time we went to Freedom Acres and our first time in a swingers club once inside the only thing out of our mouths was this is not possible are you fricking kidding. So experimenting is seeded in some of us, and that is OK as long it is discussed with your spouse and not be afraid to ask. Opening the Pandora box is OK as long there is responsibility among the two as a loving couple to prevent a drama outcome of the experience. What ever is ones limit should be respected and honored by the other half. If one has the curiosity to try new things it should be open for discussion among the couple and if it happens we all know who we are, we know our likes and dislikes and if it happens in Vegas well it stays in Vegas lol.
We are Stag/Vixen with open minds. We do not find the "technical" cuckold characteristics of disrespecting the male of the couple and his not participating in the playtime to be sexy or attractive. Our excitement is generated from our individual and collective sexuality. We also believe that whatever floats your personal boat is cool and we respect the likes of others, whatever they are.
chris olley
Male
We have always seen a BBC as closer to orthodox Dom / sub with husband Dom. She is doing the husband’s bidding, degrading her pedestal lily white self for rough black sex. Violating her purity, by going with a base beast. Kinda thing.
Husband often directs the Bull quite specifically.
Husband often directs the Bull quite specifically.
I agree I am a fan of the stag vixen lifestyle as a bull it’s just more normal never been a fan of a cuckold always seemed suspect to me
I totally agree with you well said
This sounds alot like us also. We are not into any of the degrading stuff, pretty easy going fun couple here. We still enjoy normal husband and wife sex all the time. Just like to have a bit of fun once and a while.
Same here.
Pleased to meet you!
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