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try removing your head from your backside....I think I just posted links above that show I am right...and that was just the year 2016....if I went this year I'm sure the number would be higher....again one more time there is nothing in the second amendment that says you need an assault weapon......and the major theme in the mass shootings is the assault weapons
And? There is nothing in the 1st that applies to electronic communication. We are back where we started since you copped out with jabs at my intelligence.
 
And? There is nothing in the 1st that applies to electronic communication. We are back where we started since you copped out with jabs at my intelligence.

and again you are being obtuse....what does that have anything to do with mass shootings?...you just want to argue....trying to prove some point...but you don't have one
 
and again you are being obtuse....what does that have anything to do with mass shootings?...you just want to argue....trying to prove some point...but you don't have one
Neither do you. I never said we needed assault weapons lol I said shootings are mostly caused by handguns. Dude it's not that difficult. 1. I asked you to provide a universal definition of an assault weapon and 2. I asked you how will criminals that don't follow the laws be obligated to follow newer laws? How will you stop them from getting guns?
 
HEY M o A - NICE avatar - again !!!

Isn’t this thread about the best candidate - sorry I started this gun control dust up.

Beto is definitely a bozo though - gun confiscation by the government is the Mount Everest of slippery slopes !!!!
 
HEY M o A - NICE avatar - again !!!

Isn’t this thread about the best candidate - sorry I started this gun control dust up.

Beto is definitely a bozo though - gun confiscation by the government is the Mount Everest of slippery slopes !!!!


well pretty sure if you look at any thread it gets.....off topic? on occasion....shouldn't but does......I used to hate that...but anymore I am as guilty as the next....
yes....he let his emotions flat take him out of any contention.....and may have put a bad mark on all the dems
 
The Second Amendment: 13 + 14 = 27

11/28/2007 05:20 pm ET Updated May 25, 2011
Contrary to gun lobby dogma, there are actually 27 words in the Second Amendment.
The Amendment reads, in full:



“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
There is the “Militia purpose” clause, with 13 words. Then there is the “keep and bear Arms” clause, with 14 words. Two clauses and 27 words. This is an uncomfortable fact to those accustomed to reading only half of the Amendment, reciting the last 14 words over and over again as if the first 13 didn’t exist.

The Constitution says they do exist, and so we must read the whole Second Amendment. We must give effect to all of its words - not just the ones we like - to understand what the Amendment means.

In the case [pdf] now on appeal to the US Supreme Court, however, two judges on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals virtually “erased” the 13 words of the “Militia purpose” clause altogether, and made them practically meaningless. This is just one more reason why the Appeals Court decision was clearly erroneous and should be reversed.

You can read why in the second installment of the Brady Center Legal Action Project’s thorough critique of the lower-court opinion titled, Decision By Eraser: How the Parker Court Obliterated Half of the Second Amendment.

What follows in an excerpt, with a link to the full text at the end:

in this second installment, we explain how the Parker panel ... botched its textual and historical analysis of the Second Amendment. At every turn of its decision, the Parker panel treated the first thirteen words of the Amendment - containing its militia purpose - as irrelevant surplus, with absolutely no binding effect. In its place, the court assumed that the Second Amendment protects ownership and use of firearms for “private purposes,” even though this is found nowhere in its text or legislative history. We have entitled this piece Decision by Eraser because Parker treats the Constitution as if courts are empowered to selectively erase its words and replace them with unexpressed meanings that support the court’s predilections.
Of course, as Chief Justice John Marshall established back in 1803 in the seminal case of Marbury v. Madison, the Parker panel’s approach is contrary to how courts must interpret the language of our Constitution.
It cannot be presumed that any clause in the constitution is intended to be without effect; and therefore such a construction is inadmissible.

The Parker ruling defied that 200-year-old instruction....

The Parker court approached [the Second Amendment] text by “slicing and dicing it.” Instead of looking at the Amendment as a whole to ascertain a meaning that accounts for all of its words in context, the court repeatedly divided the language into subparts and divined a meaning for each subpart taken in isolation. ... Only through this artificial methodology could the Parker court avoid the obvious meaning that ties each part of the Amendment together into a unified whole: that the people have the right to keep and bear arms as part of a well regulated militia.
 
You can say what ya want - pretty sure the left won’t be happy until they have disarmed the population - the left is ALL about the government having ALL the power - and that - is what the framers were worried about - governments with ALL the power inevitably subjugate their population.

“Absolute power corrupts absolutely”

Not sure who said that but he was a smart sumbitch!!!!!
 
Only through this artificial methodology could the Parker court avoid the obvious meaning that ties each part of the Amendment together into a unified whole: that the people have the right to keep and bear arms as part of a well regulated militia. In the time of our forefathers, after the revolutionary war of course a organized militia was needed, but this militia mentioned in the first part of the second Amendment, A A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State , being necessary to the security of a free State was depending on guns in the homes to protect our freedoms from anyone trying to destroy our young country. The last part is more self inclusive to include the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. If this whole amendment was referring to a well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, What about hunting for food, protecting their homes and family, what about protection against Indians? If, the people of the United States are left unarmed, what would stop our government as it could become totally corrupt, from having complete control of us people?
 
You can say what ya want - pretty sure the left won’t be happy until they have disarmed the population - the left is ALL about the government having ALL the power - and that - is what the framers were worried about - governments with ALL the power inevitably subjugate their population.

“Absolute power corrupts absolutely”

Not sure who said that but he was a smart sumbitch!!!!!


I don't care if even O'Rourk was to get in...never happen...they may ban future sales but that's it!....to many people own a gun...….although surprised to see gun ownership down I the last 2 years....that's a surprise


about 200 million firearms are owned by the armed forces, while 26 million are in law enforcement hands. So we have 3% of Americans owning about 20% of the world’s stockpile of firearms. Oct 5 2018


Gun ownership in the U.S. 1972-2018 | Statista
statistics/249740/percentage-of-households-in-the-united...
The statistic shows the percentage of households in the United States which own firearms from 1972 to 2017. In 2017, about 42 percent of U.S. households had at least one gun in possession. Additional information on firearms in the United States.
A Look at Gun Ownership by State - thoughtco.com
gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153
52 rows · About 66 percent of firearms in the U.S. are owned by people aged 50 and older. People …
  • RANKSTATE# OF GUNS PER CAPITA# OF GUNS REGISTERED
    1Wyoming229.24132,806
    2Washington D.C.68.0547,228
    3New Hampshire46.7664,135
    4New Mexico46.7397,580
    See all 52 rows on www.thoughtco.com



There's a gun for every American. Less than 1/3 own guns ...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/guns-dont-know-how-many-america/index.html
Feb 15, 2018 · Keep in mind the following five facts about gun ownership in this country. 1. There is no countrywide database where people register whether they own a gun.

Facts on U.S. gun ownership and gun policy views | Pew ...
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/12/27/facts-about-
  • Author: John Gramlich
    1. Three-in-ten American adults (30%) say they personally own a gun, and an additional 11% say …
    2. Protection tops the list of reasons why gun owners have a gun, according to the same survey. Two …
    3. A majority of Americans say gun laws should be stricter. Nearly six-in-ten U.S. adults (57%) say …
    4. Many gun policy proposals are politically divisive, but there are some on which Republicans and …
    See all full list on pewresearch.org
 
  1. Gun ownership in the U.S. 1972-2018 | Statista
    statistics/249740/percentage-of-households-in-the-united...
    The statistic shows the percentage of households in the United States which own firearms from 1972 to 2018. In 2018, about 43 percent of U.S. households had at least one gun in possession.
  2. Facts on U.S. gun ownership and gun policy views | Pew ...
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/12/27/facts-about-
    Dec 27, 2018 · Among Americans who own a gun, nearly two-thirds (66%) say they own more than one, including 29% who own five or more. A large majority of gun owners (72%) own a handgun or *******, while 62% own a rifle and 54% own a shotgun.
  3. America's passion for guns: ownership and violence by the ...
    https://www.theguardian.com/.../2017/oct/02/us-gun-control-ownership-violence-statistics
    Oct 03, 2017 · With less than 5% of the world’s population, the United States is home to roughly 35–50% of the world’s civilian-owned guns, according to the Small Arms Survey from 2007. More than 30,000
 
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