Trump 2016 Or Hillary?

Simple question Hillary or Trump?


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He killed over 150,000 kurds in a genocide in the late 80's with the use of chemical weapons? Men, women and children.
what aboput the 300 children kidnapped and sold into slavery just a few months ago in Africa... look at Syria and what he has done... it goes on and on.. he was no worse an asshole than the others... we turned our heads for years.. until he went into Kuwait and Sr pushed him out... and then Jr didn't like a comment he made and we went back in
 
hell look at what Turkey is doing to the kurds right now and both are our friends.. and we turn our heads... and turkey our Ally has been buying oil from ISIS and they hide terrorists... like I said that part of the country has nothing to write home about
 
That way I won't keep having to retype the same answer to them over and over and over ... I'll just say #5, or #17 and they can go to the list, look it up and see my response.
This is an excellent idea Mac. But we can improve even more by coordinating our efforts. So for example you keep harping on filibusters. I educated you back in the politics thread on cloture motions, cloture votes, and measures actually blocked. You've since "forgotten" that and spit out the same old tired filibuster BS several times after which I always point you back to my post 1750 for a refresher course.

To really improve the process on this forum, lets sync our lists. So from now on when you want to spit out your filibuster argument it will go like this:

Mac - #7
HH - #7

Think of the bandwidth we'll save!!!!

#2, #9
 
Yes jobs are out there but what kind of jobs? McDonalds, Burger King, retail. But hell you can make $15 an hour at those jobs now. Why not make the minimum wage $40 and everyone will be happy. Again the governments roll was never intended to support lazy ass people who won't get off the crack pipe and get work. But if the government is going to give me a phone, food stamps, unemployment for ever then why go to work? BTW all of the links (except the fox one) you list are all from so far left liberal news outlets of course they're going to praise the twisted stats of Obama. I get so tired of the "you watch too much fox news" statement. As I said I voted for Obama who, in my opinion, will go down as the worst president in modern times. Even worse than Carter. I vote for the person I think will be best for our country NOT ME. That's why I voted for Obama in '08. And for those of you who think Hillary isn't even more of a liar and criminal just blows me away. If God forbid you or anyone else for that matter harms another person by accident just say "I didn't intend to do it." See where that gets you. These people are corrupt to the bone! Get them out of our White House!
 
Yes jobs are out there but what kind of jobs? McDonalds, Burger King, retail. But hell you can make $15 an hour at those jobs now. Why not make the minimum wage $40 and everyone will be happy. Again the governments roll was never intended to support lazy ass people who won't get off the crack pipe and get work. But if the government is going to give me a phone, food stamps, unemployment for ever then why go to work? BTW all of the links (except the fox one) you list are all from so far left liberal news outlets of course they're going to praise the twisted stats of Obama. I get so tired of the "you watch too much fox news" statement. As I said I voted for Obama who, in my opinion, will go down as the worst president in modern times. Even worse than Carter. I vote for the person I think will be best for our country NOT ME. That's why I voted for Obama in '08. And for those of you who think Hillary isn't even more of a liar and criminal just blows me away. If God forbid you or anyone else for the matter harms another person by accident just say "I didn't intend to do it." See where that gets you. These people are corrupt to he bone! Get them out of our White House!

I give facts. You argue opinion. Nuff said.
 
Just took a look at the latest polls, almost all have Hillary leading by about 5 % one has Trump leading.

Basically i hate both of them and either way the day of the election is going to be a sad day for America.....just my opinion.
 
I totally agree with you and i would add that its not even that they believe her BS its that they just dont care! Its amazing how many people vote strictly on familiarity or because she is a woman or because she is a democrat....some dont care what she has or has not done and thats sad to me.
Bill and Hillary have had only one real goal in politics and that is to get rich. And Bill like to get laid a lot. While Hillary was Secretary of State her husband received over 40 million dollars for the his speeches and for their foundations all from people and governments that had business with the State department.Hell when Bill was President he lost the launch codes for our nuclear defense system once for sure and possibly twice. I did find President Obama's speech rather humorous when he he was commenting on Hillary's qualifications and saying how she would stand tough and see a crisis though. He seems to have forgotten about Benghazi. If the Republicans actually fielded a legitimate candidate Hillary would be in deep *******
 
I don't know about you, subhub, but I'm thinking I'm just going to start assigning numbers to my responses to these "so called" conservatives and their redundancies. That way I won't keep having to retype the same answer to them over and over and over ... I'll just say #5, or #17 and they can go to the list, look it up and see my response. I really don't have the luxury of time these guys do to keep responding over and over to their stubbornness & refusal to view world events in a reality world.
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what aboput the 300 children kidnapped and sold into slavery just a few months ago in Africa... look at Syria and what he has done... it goes on and on.. he was no worse an asshole than the others... we turned our heads for years.. until he went into Kuwait and Sr pushed him out... and then Jr didn't like a comment he made and we went back in

I totall agree about Bashar Assad, he is another that i think needs to go....he has captured tortured and killed many political prisoners and people that go against him not to mention funding and training various terrorist cells.

There are lots of crazy fuckers ruling in the world and i wish we could ******* them all but we cant however i think we must.do something about the very worst and i think Saddam was one of them.
 
Your post shows a complete ignorance of actual facts.
1. The country is clearly better of post Obama. Jobs? Up. People with health care coverage? Up. The economy? Up. These are FACTS. Not opinions.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-has-been-a-great-president-for-job-creation/
https://ourfuture.org/20141208/bush-vs-obama-on-the-economy-in-3-simple-charts
2. Did you really just fault Hillary for Monica Lewinsky? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Bill got a BJ and whatnot. WHO FUCKING CARES? Consenting sex acts between two adults are none of anyone's business. Your posting on a site dedicated to married white women and single black men...you'd think you'd understand that. Come on. The hypocrisy is abundant.
3. Our country is a joke because of Obama? Really? Really? I guess you missed his recent address to the Canadian Parliament where he received a standing ovation amid shouts of "Four more Years."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-years-after-obama-address-to-parliament.html

4. You watch too much FOX news... poor people aren't the problem. Corporations hide TRILLIONS of money offshore and many pay little to no tax. But helping poor ******* eat(handouts) bothers you? Trickle down economics DON'T WORK. There's no reputable economist who thinks it does. Yet simpletons like yourself want to continue to demonize the poor as if somehow they're dragging us down.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...-profitable-companies-paid-no-taxes/81399094/
http://www.usnews.com/news/business...hore-accounts-used-to-hide-wealth-avoid-taxes

4. Trump? Really? He's a rich kid who's never worked a day in his life. Talks about "making america great again" but outsources his business to China.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dona...y-brand-manufactured-abroad/story?id=37502012
I could go on an on....
Why is it when you state something it is facts and if someone disagrees it is an opinion.

Workforce participation is at it's lowest level level in 40 years. To be fair after 7 years of steady decline there is a slight uptick, it remains to be seen if it this is a long term trend. I don't think it is but time will tell

Trade agreement with the far east have exported millions of jobs

The Federal Government is churning out regulations at an unprecedented rate. As a result new business start up are way down. Very few Millennials are starting new businesses and these are the people we need to create the economic growth we need

A lot of the so called unemployment reduction is the result of people that have quit looking and people that have gotten on disability or have otherwise taken themselves out of the work *******.
 
Bill and Hillary have had only one real goal in politics and that is to get rich. And Bill like to get laid a lot. While Hillary was Secretary of State her husband received over 40 million dollars for the his speeches and for their foundations all from people and governments that had business with the State department.Hell when Bill was President he lost the launch codes for our nuclear defense system once for sure and possibly twice. I did find President Obama's speech rather humorous when he he was commenting on Hillary's qualifications and saying how she would stand tough and see a crisis though. He seems to have forgotten about Benghazi. If the Republicans actually fielded a legitimate candidate Hillary would be in deep *******[/QU
Why is it when you state something it is facts and if someone disagrees it is an opinion.

Workforce participation is at it's lowest level level in 40 years. To be fair after 7 years of steady decline there is a slight uptick, it remains to be seen if it this is a long term trend. I don't think it is but time will tell

Trade agreement with the far east have exported millions of jobs

The Federal Government is churning out regulations at an unprecedented rate. As a result new business start up are way down. Very few Millennials are starting new businesses and these are the people we need to create the economic growth we need

A lot of the so called unemployment reduction is the result of people that have quit looking and people that have gotten on disability or have otherwise taken themselves out of the work *******.
Why is it when you state something it is facts and if someone disagrees it is an opinion.

Workforce participation is at it's lowest level level in 40 years. To be fair after 7 years of steady decline there is a slight uptick, it remains to be seen if it this is a long term trend. I don't think it is but time will tell

Trade agreement with the far east have exported millions of jobs

The Federal Government is churning out regulations at an unprecedented rate. As a result new business start up are way down. Very few Millennials are starting new businesses and these are the people we need to create the economic growth we need

A lot of the so called unemployment reduction is the result of people that have quit looking and people that have gotten on disability or have otherwise taken themselves out of the work *******.

Back up your statements with reputable facts/links.
 
You watch too much FOX news... poor people aren't the problem. Corporations hide TRILLIONS of money offshore and many pay little to no tax. But helping poor ******* eat(handouts) bothers you? Trickle down economics DON'T WORK.
You liberals so do love to go on about "trickle down economics". Maybe you take a look at the trend of people that are falling into poverty because of the liberal "Trickle Up Poverty" policies the liberals have pursued.

Take a look at how wages have done the last seven years.

Look at the numbers of people that are filing bankruptcy because of medical bills especially cancer

I could give you several more items but I am reasonably certain that you aren't going to check into either of these.
 
Back up your statements with reputable facts/links.
You aren't interested in facts you just want whatever drivel agrees with your point of view. A link to some magazine article is pretty much a joke, I can find places that will tell you the earth is flat, that doesn't make it so. The government's own statistics back me up. If you really want the truth you will go look at the raw numbers yourself instead of taking someones elses word for it.
 
You liberals so do love to go on about "trickle down economics". Maybe you take a look at the trend of people that are falling into poverty because of the liberal "Trickle Up Poverty" policies the liberals have pursued
Time to pay attention, Torp ... both "Trickle Down Economics" and "Trickle Up Poverty" are saying basically the same damn thing ... one a diminishment of wealth as it trickles down, the other a diminishment of poverty as it trickles up. Oh, I know you'll come up with some twist as you always do, but in escence, that is exactly what you are saying when you use both of those terms together. Please pull your chair onto the patio or something, and ponder (give thought) of what you are saying. You're agreeing that Trickle Down Economics has FAILED the majority of people.
 
Time to pay attention, Torp ... both "Trickle Down Economics" and "Trickle Up Poverty" are saying basically the same damn thing ... one a diminishment of wealth as it trickles down, the other a diminishment of poverty as it trickles up. Oh, I know you'll come up with some twist as you always do, but in escence, that is exactly what you are saying when you use both of those terms together. Please pull your chair onto the patio or something, and ponder (give thought) of what you are saying. You're agreeing that Trickle Down Economics has FAILED the majority of people.
If you pay or even rent a little attention you will notice that the number of people in poverty is rising even today
 
Time to pay attention, Torp ... both "Trickle Down Economics" and "Trickle Up Poverty" are saying basically the same damn thing ... one a diminishment of wealth as it trickles down, the other a diminishment of poverty as it trickles up. Oh, I know you'll come up with some twist as you always do, but in escence, that is exactly what you are saying when you use both of those terms together. Please pull your chair onto the patio or something, and ponder (give thought) of what you are saying. You're agreeing that Trickle Down Economics has FAILED the majority of people.
I completely agree with you that current economic policy's are a failure. If you are going to lay this a Reagan's feet I find his influence remarkable for a man that has been dead as long as he has. You seem to be implying that a dead Reagan exerts moor influence on the Economy than a live President Obama.
 
You aren't interested in facts you just want whatever drivel agrees with your point of view. A link to some magazine article is pretty much a joke, I can find places that will tell you the earth is flat, that doesn't make it so. The government's own statistics back me up. If you really want the truth you will go look at the raw numbers yourself instead of taking someones elses word for it.

...yeah. That's why I said REPUTABLE. Then post the these stats you speak of.
I'll wait.
 
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