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I think we are sort of in agreement. You appear to favour govt control of food producers, whilst allowing people to eat what they like. Of course! That's what happens over here. McDonald's was told to stop selling supersize meals and to reduce salt and sugar content by the British govt.

Of course, in the UK we have healthcare for all, free at the point of delivery. It is funded by central government and we all accept that our taxes pay for stuff we don't necessarily need ourselves, except in the sense that we are one people and it could be my granny who needs a hip replacement, but it isn't, it's your granny.

Nevermind, at least I and everyone else understands that we have collective responsibility for the health of everyone in society. It is a very good thing and one of the best things we have in our country. We are very proud of and grateful for our NHS.
However, difficult choices must be made. Should we be paying for ******* that cost thousands of pounds each week that can only ever improve quality of life for the dying? How about cancer ******* that will only be effective in 30% of patients?

We have a body called 'NICE', which looks at new ******* and treatments and decides whether they represent value for money. The NHS will increasingly refuse to give expensive care to those whose life choices exacerbate their conditions and will restrict treatment until, for example, the patient has lost 50lb. Having said that, certain cosmetic surgery procedures are available on the NHS, which annoys many.

So, I think we are in agreement. You argue for restrictions on manufacturers and suppliers and say that people should be able to choose. Well, obviously they'll only be able to choose what there govt allows suppliers to produce! 'You can eat what you like, as long as we like it'.

But surely it cannot work any other way!
Cheers
 
Fox Watching Republican Shocked To Learn That Mueller Didn’t Exonerate Trump

A woman at Rep. Justin Amash’s recent town hall was confused because she votes Republican listens to conservative news and she had never heard anything about the Mueller report not exonerating Trump.

NBC News reported:

Cathy Garnaat, a Republican who supported Amash and the president said she was upset about Amash’s position but wanted to hear his reasoning. She said that she will definitely support Trump in 2020 but that Tuesday night was the first time she had heard that the Mueller report didn’t completely exonerate the president.

“I was surprised to hear there was anything negative in the Mueller report at all about President Trump. I hadn’t heard that before,” she said. “I’ve mainly listened to conservative news and I hadn’t heard anything negative about that report and President Trump has been exonerated.”


Democrats will never be able to convince Republicans to support impeachment

The shock of the woman mentioned above is what epistemic closure and news bubbles look like in action. Democrats are going to have to overcome more than Trump on impeachment. They would also need to break through the conservative media bubble with the facts of the Mueller report. It is a fairy tale to think that Republicans will see the light of truth and justice when it comes to Trump.

The reality of the situation is much more difficult. Fox News and all conservative media outlets are going to band together to hold Republicans in line against impeachment. Unless Fox News or conservative websites start discussing the facts of Mueller’s findings, the information is never going to reach Trump’s hardcore base. Trump and Barr’s deceptions are being amplified by conservative media. The only way that Republicans will support impeachment is if conservative media gets on board. Since the odds of that happening are zero, the best path to Trump removal remains at the ballot box in 2020.
 
So you are right back to what I said earlier - we don't need to raise taxes, we need to look at where it's being wasted. At least for your #1. number 2 isn't justifiable (but willing to pull DACA and send US citizens to collage for free instead) and #3 is just a joke. People earning just 60K a year are pretty comfy. By no means is 100K poor. I would agree to those less than 50K getting every penny back except SSI and Medicaid, but not a 6K credit.

Just remember, when you invite the government into your health care - "My Body - My Choice" goes right out the window. and I'm not talking about abortions - every medical decision will be made for you by bureaucrats. NY city has already tried by limiting soft drinks to 16oz. Other states have put/or considered restrictions on "supper sized" fast food.

Have you ever thought of migration?
I think it's a problem to invite the govt. Into any part of our lives that's why I said in an earlier post that it amazes me that people can watch these clowns in D.C. and want to give them more power.
Elizabeth Warren is talking about government sponsored childcare. Sounds good on the surface till you realize that those clowns will be deciding what your baby eats. Or if you raise your baby to pray before they eat what happens if another family at the same facility objects? It will be just like the town of 4000 that puts up a cross at x-mas and one person is offended, the religious take it in the teeth.
Too many people now have entitlement fever and think the dopes in Washington have the cure. For me, the idea that Maxine Waters has any control over my life is nightmare material.
 
I think it's a problem to invite the govt. Into any part of our lives that's why I said in an earlier post that it amazes me that people can watch these clowns in D.C. and want to give them more power.
Elizabeth Warren is talking about government sponsored childcare. Sounds good on the surface till you realize that those clowns will be deciding what your baby eats. Or if you raise your baby to pray before they eat what happens if another family at the same facility objects? It will be just like the town of 4000 that puts up a cross at x-mas and one person is offended, the religious take it in the teeth.
Too many people now have entitlement fever and think the dopes in Washington have the cure. For me, the idea that Maxine Waters has any control over my life is nightmare material.
Should read baby not baby
 
I don't get it. Why do people love trump?
Someone explain please. I only see a lying, vindictive bastard with no presidential attributes whatsoever.
 
I don't get it. Why do people love trump?
Someone explain please. I only see a lying, vindictive bastard with no presidential attributes whatsoever.

Because you are looking at him with your feelings.
I have had several employees over the years and if I hired/fired based on "likability" I wouldn't have many employees lol.
Some of the best workers I have had were asshole - but they got the job done. Others were very likable but took advantage and were lazy.

So far our economy is good. Regardless of people calling Trump a Racists he has made no legislation that gives to one race benefits over another, unlike Democrats who have. Unemployment among minorities is lowest it's ever been. Trump hasn't made any legislation to change our constitution, unlike Democrats who would love nothing more than to take the 2nd amendment out and severely limit the 1st and 4th. People claim Trump is trying to be dictator, but yet he has made no move to change our government structure. There are a lot of people who still love this country and don't want to see it's values and history destroyed simply so we don't offend someone. Trump stands by the American flag and anthem while the left tries to replace those as well.

As you, I personally don't care for the guy. He IS an Idiot. But I am more Libertarian/conservative so I like most of his policies. I also can't justify impeaching the man simple because I don't like him personally. If Trump is all the left says he is, then he should have been gone a long time ago. Bit it's going on 3 years and still nothing other than " a lying, vindictive bastard with no presidential attributes". I don't know anyone who "loves" him. Just because people call out the BS and hyper boil or defend his policies doesn't mean people love or even like him.

But the real reason Trump won is because NO ONE wanted Killary. except for a handful of man hating feminist. Just because people don't like Trump isn't grounds for impeachment. If people really don't like him, he will be gone in 2020. That is how our voting system works. I'm sure the next Democrat president won't be liked by the GOP so should the GOP waste the next 4 years trying to impeach that president? Or maybe they should just work together the best they can and let the people decide at the next election.

Besides all that, EVERYONE here is missing the bigger picture. The president really has limited power. He can't change things and create laws at the snap of his fingers like people believe. Our CONGRESS is the problem, not the president. Congress is really the ones who hold a lot of the power. If Trump has really committed treason and other crimes then Congress is showing it's inability to function by taking 3 years to get him out. If all this is just BS, then congress is failing it's people by carrying on with a false narrative for 3 years. Either way, Congress is failing.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...0b4105f7ca0_story.html?utm_term=.325406db037d

This must be one of the dumbest fucking ideas I've seen and he's not short of them. Creating economic problems in Mexico isn't likely to REDUCE Mexican immigration, quite the opposite in fact. Even if there was a way to accurately measure how many illegal immigrants are coming into the US, Trump and the GOP will never admit that illegal immigration has stopped because that would take away one of their biggest methods of riling up their base.

Mexico has already promised to retaliate and they could easily halt their passage of his trade deal. Consumers are going to start feeling this immediately. Also the Chinese are going to squeeze his nuts big time now that he's opening another major trade war front.

This tariff, if imposed, will certainly make its way to the 25% mark by the end of the year for this reason alone, all while Americans are paying the piper with more expensive goods.

Following are the most important imports from Mexico.
Vehicles $74 Billion (Passenger cars, Vehicle parts)
Electrical Machinery $63 Billion (Flat screen TVs , Electrical Generators, Monitors)
Machinery $49 Billion
Crude Oil $14 Billion
Medical Instruments $12 Billion
Fresh Vegetables $4.8 Billion (Avocados, Tomatoes)
Fresh Fruits $4.3 Billion
Alcoholic Beverages $2.7 Billion (Beer, Tequila)
Rubber $2.4 Billion
Snack Foods $1.7 Billion
Processed Fruits and Vegetables $1.4 Billion

So all the flat screen TV's, monitors, avocados, tequila, limes, lemons, beef and doctors visits just got more expensive!

Thanks Trump!
 
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