Allowing teachers to ccw

school fundraising
fund raising? Will you please get on the same page of discussion 'fool' ... I wasn't the one suggesting FUND RAISING. The state of NC started our state lottery (by a democrat governor at the protest of republicans in the general assembly) to raise funds to further enhance the public school system. They even named it the Education Lottery as a guaranteed amount of funds had to FIRST go to the public school system before money was paid out in prize money .... then the Republicans took over the state and first thing they went to was the Education Lottery and started putting it into a GENERAL FUND instead of a public education fund.
Now please, shut the hell up ... you don't even know what you're talking about. Go Back To Sleep!
 
Somebody tell me when a shooter is on one side of the building or the teacher /Shooter is on the other side killing people? also how is the SWAT team gonna know the difference between teacher or shooter? also what happens when the teacher has a bad day mental breakdown and decides to start shooting .how about charging 1,000.00. a bullet there would be no more mass shooting
 
So, do you think the 2nd Amendment would have been written any differently had the writers had access to the weaponry of the 21st century? Of course they would.

No I don't think it would have - its also quite pompous of you to assume our founders were too stupid to think technology wouldn't improve. I'm sure they were fully aware that things would change.

I don't know how you twist my comment regarding trust as an insult ...
LOL - seriously? You implied I was not a trust worthy person because I supposedly don't trust anyone, simple character assassination. Now you play coy.

.. you simply have a syndical view of everything associated with government.
And how is that any different than your cynical view of everything associated with the Republicans/conservative, oh I know- I include the government as a whole while you think it's only the Republicans, I see the difference. Look at what the government is doing and getting away with - of course I'm cynical!!! You should be too.

If you recall in the Politics-Politics-Politics thread over a year ago I got really upset about NC voter tampering/suppression and you conservatives seemed to have no issues with it. Now its come to light and you're finding out that even a foreign country can come in and tamper with our voting system. One of the big reasons why blacks refuse to turn out to vote is because of the issues TO VOTE .... gerrymandering, calling ID fraud by the thousands, etc etc .... yet you folks had no issues with THAT EITHER. KARMA my man ... its come around to bite you. By the way, 3 times federal judges have instructed the Republican general assembly to put the voting districts BACK to before their major gerrymandered current state, and 3 times the state assembly have ignored the judges ... 3 times. Its got to stop ... it really does.

Yep I remember - and if you recall, I agreed, there shouldn't be voting districts, it is just stupid. But I don't see how that is karma on me ???? WTF? I didn't set up the districts. My state got rid of districts, I can now vote where ever I might be. You also seemed to think illegals voting was no problem, maybe Karma on you ??? I think your reason for blacks not voting is piss-poor. They won't vote because it is too difficult? LOL give me a brake, so in your eyes Blacks are lazy or just don't care which is it? Oh i forgot, Blacks are unable to accomplish anything without the aid of the Democrat, is that right? By the way, there is always early voting and absentee voting. NC now allows no-excuse early voting and no ID required so tell your friends to vote twice - oh, but no one would do that ... right?

Hows that for a cynical attitude? :devil:

Fact is Mac, I have agreed with you on several points, including some gun laws, but you refuse to acknowledge that and would rather continue to argue simply because I am more conservative when it comes to financial issues. You've become too polarized to carry on a political discussion. That is why you "refuse to go back and forth" (and yet you still respond). It's not always about changing ones mind - it's also about coming to a respectful understanding. You see, even though your a liberal, I still respect you as a person. I really doubt you could say the same.
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it is what the police are taught!
now hell no they are not going to teach some knot head to rush a shooter...but look it up!
and it was stated several times after the shooting in Fla...one of the reasons he lost his job!
Not the police at the department I worked at for 6 years.
 
Somebody tell me when a shooter is on one side of the building or the teacher /Shooter is on the other side killing people?
Why are there students on the other side of the school without a Teacher or staff?

also how is the SWAT team gonna know the difference between teacher or shooter?
If you take any type of gun training - which any responsible gun owner will do, and should be required if you own a gun - You will be instructed to flee first and foremost. You are only supposed to draw if you have LOS (line if sight) or are otherwise in immediate danger. If or when police arrive or are on the scene you are to (assuming you are not in imminent danger) drop your gun and lye down with your hands on your head. Failure to do so can result in charges against you, or risk being shot by police. This is something stressed, and if you get shot, it's all on you.

also what happens when the teacher has a bad day mental breakdown and decides to start shooting .
So what happens when a former student has a bad day and has a mental breakdown and decides to go to school and starts shooting? All the more reason to help those with mental issues. This country has the highest gun fatality, most of which are suicides. This country also has the highest mental illness rate, think there might be a correlation?

how about charging 1,000.00. a bullet there would be no more mass shooting
Then only the rich would have all the money AND the guns. How about we enforce the gun laws we have, had they been followed, Florida would not have happened.
 
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Not the police at the department I worked at for 6 years.

6years? what they wouldn't arm a file clerk?


well they do want people who know what the fuck they are doing!

look up the statement the fla police chief made after he found out about the officer outside!
 
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the right is good at crying and spouting ******* about this and that...and it has no bearing on the facts....5 states have already banned the assault weapon....and the right has yet to make a valid argument...just repeat the same old *******...like no one heard it the first 50 times they said it........they want to talk about the laws we already have...not the guns it is the...???

they should have cut a deal a long time ago......by the time these ******* get done.....there will likely be a ban that a lot of us don't want!
 
Why are there students on the other side of the school without a Teacher or staff?


If you take any type of gun training - which any responsible gun owner will do, and should be required if you own a gun - You will be instructed to flee first and foremost. You are only supposed to draw if you have LOS (line if sight) or are otherwise in immediate danger. If or when police arrive or are on the scene you are to (assuming you are not in imminent danger) drop your gun and lye down with your hands on your head. Failure to do so can result in charges against you, or risk being shot by police. This is something stressed, and if you get shot, it's all on you.


So what happens when a former student has a bad day and has a mental breakdown and decides to go to school and starts shooting? All the more reason to help those with mental issues. This country has the highest gun fatality, most of which are suicides. This country also has the highest mental illness rate, think there might be a correlation?


Then only the rich would have all the money AND the guns. How about we enforce the gun laws we have, had they been followed, Florida would not have happened.
So EVERY Teacher in Every class will have a gun? my point was what happens when the shooter is shooting in another place where the teacher or teachers with guns at else where ?. and how will the teach pick out the shooter when there are students running for their lives ? you risk the chance of a teacher shooting someone Other than the shooter '. also how can we be sure the teacher or armed guard will RESPOND Properly when the time comes ,just like the security guard in florida who did NOTHING but save his OWN ASS
 
So EVERY Teacher in Every class will have a gun? my point was what happens when the shooter is shooting in another place where the teacher or teachers with guns at else where ?. and how will the teach pick out the shooter when there are students running for their lives ? you risk the chance of a teacher shooting someone Other than the shooter '. also how can we be sure the teacher or armed guard will RESPOND Properly when the time comes ,just like the security guard in florida who did NOTHING but save his OWN ASS

No one can say for sure what would happen, but the teachers first and foremost job would be to protect the students in his/her class. The idea of teachers having guns is NOT to go after the shooter, but to protect the students in his/her class. If the shooter tries to come inside that class room, then the teacher takes action, if it happens to be the first classroom the shooter tries to enter, then a much higher chance that will be his last room he entered, not to mention potential shooters might - just maybe - decide not to go to the school knowing that any teacher might have a gun. The Teacher would also be instructed not to pull the trigger unless they have a clear shot, just like Police. Why does everyone think the only people that can handle a gun is the shooter and the cops? You know other people can learn to shoot.

On campus security, or officers would be the ones that actively go after the shooter. But yes, it is quite possible that the teach will just lock himself in the closet to save his own ass - with or without a gun.
 
No one can say for sure what would happen, but the teachers first and foremost job would be to protect the students in his/her class. The idea of teachers having guns is NOT to go after the shooter, but to protect the students in his/her class. If the shooter tries to come inside that class room, then the teacher takes action, if it happens to be the first classroom the shooter tries to enter, then a much higher chance that will be his last room he entered, not to mention potential shooters might - just maybe - decide not to go to the school knowing that any teacher might have a gun. The Teacher would also be instructed not to pull the trigger unless they have a clear shot, just like Police. Why does everyone think the only people that can handle a gun is the shooter and the cops? You know other people can learn to shoot.

On campus security, or officers would be the ones that actively go after the shooter. But yes, it is quite possible that the teach will just lock himself in the closet to save his own ass - with or without a gun

Don't you think teachers have enough Stress and problems without having to be armed with Guns ? its funny how they will find money to arm teachers but they cant find money for school supplies
 
Don't you think teachers have enough Stress and problems without having to be armed with Guns ? its funny how they will find money to arm teachers but they cant find money for school supplies

I agree, Personally I don't think schools should arm teachers, but I think if a teacher wants to carry, they should be allowed to with proper training.
The money for school security should come from the gun/ammo tax.
 
That's not what was taught in my concealed carry class. What state did you take yours in?
guess that would apply to whomever was teaching the class
you are going back several pages....took me a minute to figure out just what you were talking about
I bought my ******* one of these and went to order
www.22-Remington-Clip.best-deal.com
www.ebay.comSearchremington 22 rifle clip
since shipping would have been as much as the "clip" I ended up going to a dealer to order it and same thing...called it a clip!

you might notice there are some on here that don't know ******* about guns and just like to argue...and seem to spout a lot of *******!

but just to support YOUR argument

Difference between Clip and Magazine
They are very much different from each other, in fact sometimes a clip is considered to be a magazine. A general rule of thumb if it has a spring on it, then that is a magazine. A clip can be rendered useless if it doesn’t have any spring on it, since it doesn’t have any shooting capacity without any spring on it. A clip generally needs another structure that will push the ammunitions out from the chamber. Magazines already possess both capacities, which are the reason why it widely used these days since a separate spring is no longer needed.
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-clip-and-vs-magazine/

but when I wanted 2 spares for that .22 a search came up clip...and the gun dealer I ordered them from called them clips!
but yes.....usually everything is a magazine!
 
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