We'll have to work on it. ;-)
The Future of Cuckoldry and Hotwifing . . . .
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We'll have to work on it. ;-)
(sigh) True . . .
By all means! Feel free to work on it! Politics, like law, is best handled at the local level. Advocate and speak out in public forums if you so desire. I don't think you'll get much traction, but the beauty of America is that everyone has the right to speak their minds, expressing their desires.
I'd have the arbitration and laws to disallow a divorce or any separation until the hubby has had the opportunity to live under his new reality
I have given this a lot of thought. There was a time when gay men were warned that coming out would ruin them, and when it was just a few that came out, it was true. However, when more came out, or were outed even, it became easier for them to transform and accept and be accepted.
If a strong, dominant, sexy man can be bold enough to approach and even seduce a married couple - or the wife with the husband's knowledge before or after the fact, and the sex is wonderful, should society promote that situation? Isn't in everyone's interest? The wife? The man? Society? The local community? And, I would argue the family and even the cuckold in the long term?
In the business world, a hostile takeover, while stressful, is considered good for the shareholders, good for the buyer, good for the market, good for society. So, why not in under-performing marriages?
I'm not beating a dead horse. I am simply making new arguments.
Jeff and Christy,
As far as I'm concerned, you can beat the dead horse until it's a pulp for all I care!
I think your analogy is skewed. A gay man (or woman) can come out an face ridicule from a circle of (former) friends, that's true. But he has an established infrastructure he could fall back on - other gays. When a hetro male admits, in front of everyone, he is inadequate, who can he fall back on. Here he is, a guy who LIKES women, but can't please them adequately. That strikes at the very core of what a 'man' is. I think, although I'm NOT a man, that it would be the same as public ***********, and when his equipment is removed, what is he - certainly not a man.
A hostile takeover does result in some disruption, but in the case of the male, this is total destruction! There are always some survivors in a hostile takeover. I can assure you that the only beneficiaries would be the woman and her Bull. The male would be cast aside.
Being blunt, in the scenario you describe, while some guys would embrace it, I honestly think there would be more than a few who would suicide. And I mean that literally. Imagine this picture. A woman stands up in this imaginary court and declares that her husband can't satisfy her, at all. She goes on to be graphic, describing a small penis and an inability to become hard.
What recourse does the male have in this situation? The woman he used to, and probably still does, has totally rejected him in public, now a matter of public record. He tries and dates someone, and she looks him up, only to see what was testified in court! How long will she stick around? This happens repeatedly and after countless rejections, he admits to himself he's a total failure and puts a gun against his head.
How many gays faced the same situation in the 50s and 60s? A Lot!
Again, best kept between the wife, the husband, and the bull.
Donna
As far as I'm concerned, you can beat the dead horse until it's a pulp for all I care!
I think your analogy is skewed. A gay man (or woman) can come out an face ridicule from a circle of (former) friends, that's true. But he has an established infrastructure he could fall back on - other gays. When a hetro male admits, in front of everyone, he is inadequate, who can he fall back on. Here he is, a guy who LIKES women, but can't please them adequately. That strikes at the very core of what a 'man' is. I think, although I'm NOT a man, that it would be the same as public ***********, and when his equipment is removed, what is he - certainly not a man.
A hostile takeover does result in some disruption, but in the case of the male, this is total destruction! There are always some survivors in a hostile takeover. I can assure you that the only beneficiaries would be the woman and her Bull. The male would be cast aside.
Being blunt, in the scenario you describe, while some guys would embrace it, I honestly think there would be more than a few who would suicide. And I mean that literally. Imagine this picture. A woman stands up in this imaginary court and declares that her husband can't satisfy her, at all. She goes on to be graphic, describing a small penis and an inability to become hard.
What recourse does the male have in this situation? The woman he used to, and probably still does, has totally rejected him in public, now a matter of public record. He tries and dates someone, and she looks him up, only to see what was testified in court! How long will she stick around? This happens repeatedly and after countless rejections, he admits to himself he's a total failure and puts a gun against his head.
How many gays faced the same situation in the 50s and 60s? A Lot!
Again, best kept between the wife, the husband, and the bull.
Donna
As a personal fantasy I would love to see there be a massive takeover and it replace the common law marriage we percieve today. BNWO and white extinction is a fantasy of mine, but I know it's an impossibility logistically speaking. If white men and women do not breed there will be no more white girls. We would all be the same race, and where is the fun in that? Lol
Actually, numbers suggest that in the long run, regardless of the possible trends, blacks will gradually assimilate into white culture through sheer numbers.
I have heard similar reports from very authoritative sources. Basically, they have suggested that between 75 and 100 years, the 'pure white' individual will be more olive, perhaps similar to the Middle Eastern complexion. This will be due primarily to inbreeding between pure whites and everyone else.
That far in the future we can probably choose what we want to look like. Want to have blue eyes and white skin? Take a DNA pill and wait 6 months(?).
we agree, there are poly groups in our town and they meet often for coffee and to talk (non sexual meetings)
I know this too well. Experienced ridiculous racism in Cape Town. I was once accused of stealing a phone at a club in Cape Town. I had been minding my business the entire night and the bouncer called me out. Wonder what would’ve happened if my white friends didn’t vouch for me.
We have a long way to go here.
If poly relationships are accepted in Western Society (Europe would be first) then legal constructs would have to be established for divorcing one or all of the parties involved. A dauntless task, but one that could be done.
What Jeff and Christy were debating was the idea of a single relationship (one man/one woman) somehow acknowledging the failure of a relationship due to the husband being inadequate. The idea was that somehow the relationship could survive, but altered in allowing a third to provide sexual services. It was that concept that I was objecting to - in that I believed that America wouldn't allow that to happen in court.
What Jeff and Christy were debating was the idea of a single relationship (one man/one woman) somehow acknowledging the failure of a relationship due to the husband being inadequate. The idea was that somehow the relationship could survive, but altered in allowing a third to provide sexual services. It was that concept that I was objecting to - in that I believed that America wouldn't allow that to happen in court.
I agree with Donna on this. That latter part would never be acknowledged in court and the societal backlash from someone even thinking of doing something like this would be harsh. I could imagine that talk shows right now. “You mean to tell me this slut wants her husband to tell the world, “I’m not good enough” and then stay in the marriage, allow her to fuck other guys, and then he gets to sit in the corner like a bitch and do all the household chores” - we ain’t quite ready for this yet.
I’m interested in seeing how this polyamory and sexual non monogamy movement gets accepted in our society. Once polyamory is accepted or at least normalized (on TV, portrayed in Tv shows) then this will open the flood gates of seeing other polygamous relationships, I.e this one
I use the gay and lesbian movement as an example. The societal acceptance of the movement open the doors for other lifestyles and the gender identity movement.
we see more and more poly groups showing up in cities and more people meeting to discuss them
You sound crazy! ******* is never ok! Wtf is wrong with you
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Why' in a democratica age' would any human want to give theirblife to their legislators and judges. One of the thibgs I live about our sexuality is that is inconsistent with the State's imposed boring extreme heterosexuality. Without tax benefits' marriage as an institution would cease to exist.
