Racism in the bedroom, by The Guardian

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Why do racial stereotypes persist when it comes to sex?

"Welcome to the Black Man’s Fan Club – a monthly swingers’ night for white women who want to have sex with black men, and their white husbands or partners who want to watch. In the ethnically undiverse world of swingers, the BMFC is marketed as a community of people who “appreciate the extras black men bring”. Tonight’s flyer features an intensely fake-tanned white girl wearing briefs that read, in large letters across her crotch, “I heart black”. Members of the community – both white women and black men – are active on Twitter, where they share pictures of exceptionally large black penises and rough sex in which a black man clearly dominates.

BMFC, the punters tell me, is one of a kind, but the sentiment doesn’t end in Dunstable. In an era of mass porn consumption, black male porn actors having sex with white women is a popular subgenre, and BMWW (black man white woman) erotic novels specifically cater to the fantasy of crudely stereotyped black male aggression and sexual domination. It’s as if the online commercialisation of sexual fantasy has globalised racial stereotypes and sent them freewheeling backwards; it doesn’t take any imagination to surmise exactly what swingers mean when they say they appreciate the “extras” black men bring.

“There are three reasons why the women come here,” explains Wayne, one of the black men who are here to be “appreciated”. Wayne has just come out of a playroom, and has barely bothered to put his clothes back on – his flies low, shirt open, and tie hung nonchalantly around his neck. He’s a good-looking guy, with a toned physique and neatly twisted locks. “One [reason is], black men have bigger penises.” That’s a stereotype, I argue. “It’s not a stereotype!” he replies. “Black men are built differently. You have to acknowledge nature. Number two,” Wayne continues, “black men have better rhythm in bed. That’s also a fact. And thirdly, they are just more dominant. You know, a lot of these women are not satisfied by their husbands, who want them to do all the work. They want to feel a strong man inside them, dominating them. They want an alpha male. That’s what they get here,” he smiles at me, knowingly.

[...]

When I ask if they feel fetishised because of their race, they vigorously deny it. “I come for the sex,” Wayne says. “Where else can you go and have sex as many times as you like? Plus, there are no pretences. Everyone is here to get laid, have a good time, it’s really friendly. It’s not like a normal club where everyone has a poker face on. No one’s judging.”

Swinging is not my thing, but I couldn’t care less what consenting adults get up to behind closed doors. It’s not the sex at the Black Man’s Fan Club that bothers me, it’s the racial stereotyping. It feels as if it’s just the latest chapter in a history of sexual stereotyping towards Africans – a history so long and loaded it stands apart from other contemporary fetishes, such as blondes or particular body types.

Why are black men willing to embrace the myths of hypersexuality and abnormally large endowment? “The number of things that have been said about black men in this country for the most part have been about as negative as you can possibly get,” says professor Herbert Samuels, an American expert on sexual desire. “If someone says that you are good at sex, or that your penis is bigger than anyone else’s, that’s about the only positive you can get out of all those negatives. And I think some black men have bought into the myth that they are hypersexual, that their sexual prowess and the size, the physicality, is greater.”

This is what really unsettles me about the Black Man’s Fan Club. Not just the fact that black men’s self-esteem could be so low that this would be a welcome boost, but the fact that everyone in Arousals is, one way or another, unquestioningly complicit in a set of beliefs that have ancient and horrible roots.

When Europeans first came into contact with the African continent, they indulged in an imaginative riot of fantasy. Elizabethan travel books contained a heady mix of fact and pure invention, which confused English readers and popularised wildly fictional versions of the place and its people. “Like animals,” one account reported, Africans would “fall upon their women, just as they come to hand, without any choice”. African men had enormous penises, these accounts suggested. One writer went so far as to claim that African men were “furnisht with such members as are after a sort burthensome unto them”.

Stereotypes about the sexual prowess of black people have an equally illustrious presence in literature, journalism and art. Even a left-leaning British publication like the Daily Herald ran front-page stories with headlines such as “Black scourge in Europe: sexual horror let loose by France on the Rhine”. The author of that 1920 splash complained that the “barely restrainable *******” of black troops stationed in Europe after the end of the first world war had led to many rapes, which was particularly serious because Africans were “the most developed sexually” of any race – a “terror and a horror unimaginable”.

Black men are still unfairly portrayed as rapists – not least by US president Donald Trump, who in 1989 called for the death penalty for five black teenagers, the so-called Central Park Five convicted of ******* a female jogger in New York. Their convictions were later overturned and the miscarriage of justice these young men had suffered exposed. But in 2014, Trump still refused to accept their innocence. He told a journalist this stance would help in his campaign for the presidency, and he found many receptive audiences for his racially loaded claim that Mexico was sending its “rapists” to America.

Stereotypes of black and other ethnic minority men as sexually threatening on the one hand, and sexually desirable on the other, are two sides of the same hypersexuality myth. The former continue in inaccurate data spread virally on social media, pointing to false statistics about the prevalence of sexual assaults by black men. The latter have filtered into popular culture, such as the sayings, widespread when I was at school and university, that white women who have sex with black men have “jungle fever”, and that “once you go black, you never go back”. They are implicit in the belief, internalised by Wayne at the BMFC, that black men have “extras” in bed."

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jan/13/black-woman-always-fetishised-racism-in-bedroom
 
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This article finally pulls on the tail of the proverbial "elephant in the room" no one has really wanted to delve into. There may have been one or two places or threads that started on this site perhaps that I haven't seen yet but its finally time to start chewing on this *******, chunk by chunk and I'm glad @MonicaV was brave enough to take one of the 1st stabs at the issue with posting this article.

Looking forward to seeing who else is brave enough to hold more discussions related to this topic. I can go on for a while about this but I'll have to save more of the heavy stuff for when I have more time.

In the meantime, the part of the article (if you read the original online version) where it states: "My wife loves black men.’ And I was like, ‘No, he’s not available.’ When people say to me, ‘I love black men’, instead of saying that they just love men, that tells me it’s a fetish.” does not really bother me. At least they see a man although the shade of his skin is emphasized.

But what I do take issue with is how some people (not all) emphasize just the hyper-sexual myth of a Black man having a BBC and that's first and foremost all they focus on. There is no human being there that's important as they are degraded to just the status of a mere object and something of a sexual possession similar to a vibrator being pulled out of a drawer for some personal satisfaction and once done put back in the drawer with no other serious thoughts are given about the object.

Not so long ago, I received a message on another sex lifestyle website from a couple in which I first took a look at their profile before responding which everyone should do as well. I came across a sentence on their profile which made me laugh stating "She isn’t attracted to BBC, just her preference." Since the couple contacted me first I responded to them with two simple sentences stating im not certain why they contacted me since it appears we weren't compatible where you state your "not attracted to BBC". I then stated "I find the term BBC offensive as referring to men where its just a large object between my legs. Essentially I'm not some gigantic cock object just floating around and I'm a man who is extra-ordinary in many ways beyond just my Big cock."

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But what I do take issue with is how some people (not all) emphasize just the hyper-sexual myth of a Black man having a BBC and that's first and foremost all they focus on. There is no human being there that's important as they are degraded to just the status of a mere object and something of a sexual possession similar to a vibrator being pulled out of a drawer for some personal satisfaction and once done put back in the drawer with no other serious thoughts are given about the object.

BBC is a term for an specific type of sexual organ, and I don't see any problem with this meaning. But when it is used as a metonymy to refer a person there are much subtext underlying.

I have not the life experience of a black person, and don't pretend to have it. However, I'm quite sensitive of this problem because, paradoxically, the hypersexuality of the black masculinity is related with the same kind of ******* that women have always suffered. I'm convinced that many females know the feeling of being treated as a walking pair of tits, and now some objectivate in a similar way with black males.

Of course, I have taken advantage of my charms (including cleavages) to seduce men. But the feeling that your whole essence is reduced to your tits, which are the whole and not a part, knowing the only reason why a person relates to you is your tits, makes the whole situation disgusting.

However, there is a deeper problem.The sexual objectification of men of color may ******* them to play specific roles in sexual encounters that are not necessarily of their own choosing, just to fit with others expectations, or because porn has created some commonplaces that are widely assumed as normative in the interracial sexual relationships.

Women's sexual liberation cannot led women to a role reversal with men of racial minorities, considering them just a disponsible sex machine.
 
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While I don't like to be referred to solely as a black cock, I must admit that I have a grand affinity for f****** white women. I have craved white women since I was a baby. At first, I was just enamored with the differences in phenotype and also I was born one of a few black people in the area where I came from.

I was emotionally abused by some of my teachers, and ostracized by some of my peers. This led to a desire to belong in a place where I would never be truly welcomed. I had to learn to love myself in the midst of a situation where people expected me to be less intelligent because of my skin color.

I do not solely deal with white women, as I love women of all I must admit that I'm very turned on by stereotypical pornography including black men and white women.
 
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Du Bois called it “living within the veil,” an unremitting “two–ness” as one forms personal consciousness about one’s being and role in a particular context, only to discover that in the opinion of many, you will always be “the other.”
How one forms a sense of who she or he or s/he is in such an environment is the story of the struggle of all of our “others” in these days and times in our America. Thanks MonicaV, bigblackbull76 and Deepspace8 for sharing your perspectives. I enjoyed reading you.
 
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Why do racial stereotypes persist when it comes to sex?

"Welcome to the Black Man’s Fan Club – a monthly swingers’ night for white women who want to have sex with black men, and their white husbands or partners who want to watch. In the ethnically undiverse world of swingers, the BMFC is marketed as a community of people who “appreciate the extras black men bring”. Tonight’s flyer features an intensely fake-tanned white girl wearing briefs that read, in large letters across her crotch, “I heart black”. Members of the community – both white women and black men – are active on Twitter, where they share pictures of exceptionally large black penises and rough sex in which a black man clearly dominates.

BMFC, the punters tell me, is one of a kind, but the sentiment doesn’t end in Dunstable. In an era of mass porn consumption, black male porn actors having sex with white women is a popular subgenre, and BMWW (black man white woman) erotic novels specifically cater to the fantasy of crudely stereotyped black male aggression and sexual domination. It’s as if the online commercialisation of sexual fantasy has globalised racial stereotypes and sent them freewheeling backwards; it doesn’t take any imagination to surmise exactly what swingers mean when they say they appreciate the “extras” black men bring.

“There are three reasons why the women come here,” explains Wayne, one of the black men who are here to be “appreciated”. Wayne has just come out of a playroom, and has barely bothered to put his clothes back on – his flies low, shirt open, and tie hung nonchalantly around his neck. He’s a good-looking guy, with a toned physique and neatly twisted locks. “One [reason is], black men have bigger penises.” That’s a stereotype, I argue. “It’s not a stereotype!” he replies. “Black men are built differently. You have to acknowledge nature. Number two,” Wayne continues, “black men have better rhythm in bed. That’s also a fact. And thirdly, they are just more dominant. You know, a lot of these women are not satisfied by their husbands, who want them to do all the work. They want to feel a strong man inside them, dominating them. They want an alpha male. That’s what they get here,” he smiles at me, knowingly.

[...]

When I ask if they feel fetishised because of their race, they vigorously deny it. “I come for the sex,” Wayne says. “Where else can you go and have sex as many times as you like? Plus, there are no pretences. Everyone is here to get laid, have a good time, it’s really friendly. It’s not like a normal club where everyone has a poker face on. No one’s judging.”

Swinging is not my thing, but I couldn’t care less what consenting adults get up to behind closed doors. It’s not the sex at the Black Man’s Fan Club that bothers me, it’s the racial stereotyping. It feels as if it’s just the latest chapter in a history of sexual stereotyping towards Africans – a history so long and loaded it stands apart from other contemporary fetishes, such as blondes or particular body types.

Why are black men willing to embrace the myths of hypersexuality and abnormally large endowment? “The number of things that have been said about black men in this country for the most part have been about as negative as you can possibly get,” says professor Herbert Samuels, an American expert on sexual desire. “If someone says that you are good at sex, or that your penis is bigger than anyone else’s, that’s about the only positive you can get out of all those negatives. And I think some black men have bought into the myth that they are hypersexual, that their sexual prowess and the size, the physicality, is greater.”

This is what really unsettles me about the Black Man’s Fan Club. Not just the fact that black men’s self-esteem could be so low that this would be a welcome boost, but the fact that everyone in Arousals is, one way or another, unquestioningly complicit in a set of beliefs that have ancient and horrible roots.

When Europeans first came into contact with the African continent, they indulged in an imaginative riot of fantasy. Elizabethan travel books contained a heady mix of fact and pure invention, which confused English readers and popularised wildly fictional versions of the place and its people. “Like animals,” one account reported, Africans would “fall upon their women, just as they come to hand, without any choice”. African men had enormous penises, these accounts suggested. One writer went so far as to claim that African men were “furnisht with such members as are after a sort burthensome unto them”.

Stereotypes about the sexual prowess of black people have an equally illustrious presence in literature, journalism and art. Even a left-leaning British publication like the Daily Herald ran front-page stories with headlines such as “Black scourge in Europe: sexual horror let loose by France on the Rhine”. The author of that 1920 splash complained that the “barely restrainable *******” of black troops stationed in Europe after the end of the first world war had led to many rapes, which was particularly serious because Africans were “the most developed sexually” of any race – a “terror and a horror unimaginable”.

Black men are still unfairly portrayed as rapists – not least by US president Donald Trump, who in 1989 called for the death penalty for five black teenagers, the so-called Central Park Five convicted of ******* a female jogger in New York. Their convictions were later overturned and the miscarriage of justice these young men had suffered exposed. But in 2014, Trump still refused to accept their innocence. He told a journalist this stance would help in his campaign for the presidency, and he found many receptive audiences for his racially loaded claim that Mexico was sending its “rapists” to America.

Stereotypes of black and other ethnic minority men as sexually threatening on the one hand, and sexually desirable on the other, are two sides of the same hypersexuality myth. The former continue in inaccurate data spread virally on social media, pointing to false statistics about the prevalence of sexual assaults by black men. The latter have filtered into popular culture, such as the sayings, widespread when I was at school and university, that white women who have sex with black men have “jungle fever”, and that “once you go black, you never go back”. They are implicit in the belief, internalised by Wayne at the BMFC, that black men have “extras” in bed."

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jan/13/black-woman-always-fetishised-racism-in-bedroom
What all this is built on
 
Du Bois called it “living within the veil,” an unremitting “two–ness” as one forms personal consciousness about one’s being and role in a particular context, only to discover that in the opinion of many, you will always be “the other.”
How one forms a sense of who she or he or s/he is in such an environment is the story of the struggle of all of our “others” in these days and times in our America. Thanks MonicaV, bigblackbull76 and Deepspace8 for sharing your perspectives. I enjoyed reading you.

It is curious that DuBois developed the concept of the veil after he was “peremptorily refused" by a southern, white girl simply because he was black. Sex is the most primal and intimate encounter that can be between races and creating barriers to it makes such realization arise more intensely.
 
We have visited Arousal's quite a few times for the BMFC parties.
They club and the BMFC are very well run and are our favourite night out.
From our point of view, we very rarely use the term bbc. We have it in a note in a couple of pictures but as a request from a black bull.
We like well hung black guys, not just a talking penis.
From our years playing we have found that black guy often but not always, have cheeky chat, confidence, are polite and respectful, are generally fun to hang out with.
Indian/Pakistani guys are often rude and disrespectful.
Eastern Europeans again often rude.
Where we live, it was fairly inevitable that Frisky would end up marrying a white guy but once we started playing she admitted that she found black guys attractive and that she would rather only play with black guys.
Now is that racist, a fetish or just a choice?
To be honest I don't know but if a black guy is getting the white woman he enjoys and she is getting a black guy she enjoys, is there anything wrong with that?
 
Well its not up to white people to tell black men what is racist to them.
You don't get to determine what is offensive to us and what is not.
Time for white men and women to stop telling black people what we should and should not find racist.
and I mean that.
As a white woman married to a black man, and the mom of two black sons, I couldnt agree more. White people have no business lecturing black people about what is racist.
 
Why do racial stereotypes persist when it comes to sex?

"Welcome to the Black Man’s Fan Club – a monthly swingers’ night for white women who want to have sex with black men, and their white husbands or partners who want to watch. In the ethnically undiverse world of swingers, the BMFC is marketed as a community of people who “appreciate the extras black men bring”. Tonight’s flyer features an intensely fake-tanned white girl wearing briefs that read, in large letters across her crotch, “I heart black”. Members of the community – both white women and black men – are active on Twitter, where they share pictures of exceptionally large black penises and rough sex in which a black man clearly dominates.

BMFC, the punters tell me, is one of a kind, but the sentiment doesn’t end in Dunstable. In an era of mass porn consumption, black male porn actors having sex with white women is a popular subgenre, and BMWW (black man white woman) erotic novels specifically cater to the fantasy of crudely stereotyped black male aggression and sexual domination. It’s as if the online commercialisation of sexual fantasy has globalised racial stereotypes and sent them freewheeling backwards; it doesn’t take any imagination to surmise exactly what swingers mean when they say they appreciate the “extras” black men bring.

“There are three reasons why the women come here,” explains Wayne, one of the black men who are here to be “appreciated”. Wayne has just come out of a playroom, and has barely bothered to put his clothes back on – his flies low, shirt open, and tie hung nonchalantly around his neck. He’s a good-looking guy, with a toned physique and neatly twisted locks. “One [reason is], black men have bigger penises.” That’s a stereotype, I argue. “It’s not a stereotype!” he replies. “Black men are built differently. You have to acknowledge nature. Number two,” Wayne continues, “black men have better rhythm in bed. That’s also a fact. And thirdly, they are just more dominant. You know, a lot of these women are not satisfied by their husbands, who want them to do all the work. They want to feel a strong man inside them, dominating them. They want an alpha male. That’s what they get here,” he smiles at me, knowingly.

[...]

When I ask if they feel fetishised because of their race, they vigorously deny it. “I come for the sex,” Wayne says. “Where else can you go and have sex as many times as you like? Plus, there are no pretences. Everyone is here to get laid, have a good time, it’s really friendly. It’s not like a normal club where everyone has a poker face on. No one’s judging.”

Swinging is not my thing, but I couldn’t care less what consenting adults get up to behind closed doors. It’s not the sex at the Black Man’s Fan Club that bothers me, it’s the racial stereotyping. It feels as if it’s just the latest chapter in a history of sexual stereotyping towards Africans – a history so long and loaded it stands apart from other contemporary fetishes, such as blondes or particular body types.

Why are black men willing to embrace the myths of hypersexuality and abnormally large endowment? “The number of things that have been said about black men in this country for the most part have been about as negative as you can possibly get,” says professor Herbert Samuels, an American expert on sexual desire. “If someone says that you are good at sex, or that your penis is bigger than anyone else’s, that’s about the only positive you can get out of all those negatives. And I think some black men have bought into the myth that they are hypersexual, that their sexual prowess and the size, the physicality, is greater.”

This is what really unsettles me about the Black Man’s Fan Club. Not just the fact that black men’s self-esteem could be so low that this would be a welcome boost, but the fact that everyone in Arousals is, one way or another, unquestioningly complicit in a set of beliefs that have ancient and horrible roots.

When Europeans first came into contact with the African continent, they indulged in an imaginative riot of fantasy. Elizabethan travel books contained a heady mix of fact and pure invention, which confused English readers and popularised wildly fictional versions of the place and its people. “Like animals,” one account reported, Africans would “fall upon their women, just as they come to hand, without any choice”. African men had enormous penises, these accounts suggested. One writer went so far as to claim that African men were “furnisht with such members as are after a sort burthensome unto them”.

Stereotypes about the sexual prowess of black people have an equally illustrious presence in literature, journalism and art. Even a left-leaning British publication like the Daily Herald ran front-page stories with headlines such as “Black scourge in Europe: sexual horror let loose by France on the Rhine”. The author of that 1920 splash complained that the “barely restrainable *******” of black troops stationed in Europe after the end of the first world war had led to many rapes, which was particularly serious because Africans were “the most developed sexually” of any race – a “terror and a horror unimaginable”.

Black men are still unfairly portrayed as rapists – not least by US president Donald Trump, who in 1989 called for the death penalty for five black teenagers, the so-called Central Park Five convicted of ******* a female jogger in New York. Their convictions were later overturned and the miscarriage of justice these young men had suffered exposed. But in 2014, Trump still refused to accept their innocence. He told a journalist this stance would help in his campaign for the presidency, and he found many receptive audiences for his racially loaded claim that Mexico was sending its “rapists” to America.

Stereotypes of black and other ethnic minority men as sexually threatening on the one hand, and sexually desirable on the other, are two sides of the same hypersexuality myth. The former continue in inaccurate data spread virally on social media, pointing to false statistics about the prevalence of sexual assaults by black men. The latter have filtered into popular culture, such as the sayings, widespread when I was at school and university, that white women who have sex with black men have “jungle fever”, and that “once you go black, you never go back”. They are implicit in the belief, internalised by Wayne at the BMFC, that black men have “extras” in bed."

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jan/13/black-woman-always-fetishised-racism-in-bedroom


As always my fair Monica, your words incite deep-seated emotions! I wouldn't mind inciting something else deep inside of YOU - but that's for private talk ;)

I'm actually impressed with your writings. You've come a long way from your EARLIER works, in terms of cultural understanding. But the fact that you, 'white Spanish chick from over there' even bothers to understand Back Culture, is a lot more than most Non-Black people I come in contact with. Your efforts to look this ******* up, and relay the information? - hell, that's more than most BLACK PEOPLE I know would do! lol lol

I've spoken on this topic Many...MANY times since joining this site. And there's nothing I could say Here, that I haven't already said ad naseum.

I'm of the conclusion that everyone makes a conscious choice of How they want to be represented, and What they are comfortable with. SUre, I've chastised plenty of White people on here - from You, to Samantha P, to others who I FELT displayed egregious cultural insensitivity. But...end of the day, me playing at Cultural Vanguard isn't exactly changing the world. Maybe just throwing my ire at a few people lol :p

I call myself 'BBCnATX' ironically, because it's catchy. For 'marketing purposes' hahaa - its just easy to remember. I CHOOSE to be known as that.

HOWEVER COMMA - I also prefer to be referred to as 'Mike' or 'Mike from Austin' or 'BBCnATX' (stage name/performance name) not just 'the BBC'. I hate when people say that. I read a lot of members here talking about ' i met my bbc last night' - and I'm like "Bitch did he a NAME??, WTF"
hell, at least use his membername, *******. But again, as said before, some people are simply fulfilling a sexual fetish - and the human attached is nothing more than Life Support to an appendage.

Now....that TOTALLY works for a lot of Black Men - my thng is, is your Humanity worth some pussy?? Not mine. We have a saying in Black Culture (you might wanna write this down in your Learning Black Folk notes lol) - the saying is ACT LIKE YOU BEEN SOMEWHERE.
Sommole these guys act like white pussy is just the greatest thing since Jesus fuckin Christ - like its going out of business and they ready to sell they identity for that 'Good White Woman Pussy! Awwww yassar! Miss Daisy got sum goooood ole pussy!' [insert racial image here]

Let me stop, smdh....

I never refer to a chick as 'the slut'. I might call you 'A Slut' as an agreed upon designation :) - but folks need to calm TF down, and remember we all Humans up in here.

This reminds me of scenes from the (epic!) show Spartacus: ******* and Sand series. How the Romans would nonchalantly as fuck just refer to other humans as slaves - chattel - nothing more than a step above animals, to carry out their bidding. Every once in a while, a gladiator would be used for sexual perversions, to the delight of the Roman fuckwads.

Sometimes hanging out here I get that same feeling, like sommole these Brothas are willing sex -gladiators. Call them what the fuck you want as long as they all willing participants, right?

Damn I said a lot.

-Mike
 
@MonicaV: Interesting article in "mainstream media". What it fails to reflect though is that different persons with the same interest might have different motivations behind it. But okay, that`s not intentionally the subject of that article.

It is certainly true that some folks attending such an event might have the image of "the sexual brute" in the back of their minds, but also i am quite sure that for some others it means nothing more or less than enjoying some good sex in an adult/swinging environment. ;)
 
As always my fair Monica, your words incite deep-seated emotions! I wouldn't mind inciting something else deep inside of YOU - but that's for private talk ;)
I'm actually impressed with your writings. You've come a long way from your EARLIER works, in terms of cultural understanding. But the fact that you, 'white Spanish chick from over there' even bothers to understand Back Culture, is a lot more than most Non-Black people I come in contact with. Your efforts to look this ******* up, and relay the information? - hell, that's more than most BLACK PEOPLE I know would do! lol lol

I've spoken on this topic Many...MANY times since joining this site. And there's nothing I could say Here, that I haven't already said ad naseum.

I'm of the conclusion that everyone makes a conscious choice of How they want to be represented, and What they are comfortable with. SUre, I've chastised plenty of White people on here - from You, to Samantha P, to others who I FELT displayed egregious cultural insensitivity. But...end of the day, me playing at Cultural Vanguard isn't exactly changing the world. Maybe just throwing my ire at a few people lol :p

I call myself 'BBCnATX' ironically, because it's catchy. For 'marketing purposes' hahaa - its just easy to remember. I CHOOSE to be known as that.

HOWEVER COMMA - I also prefer to be referred to as 'Mike' or 'Mike from Austin' or 'BBCnATX' (stage name/performance name) not just 'the BBC'. I hate when people say that. I read a lot of members here talking about ' i met my bbc last night' - and I'm like "Bitch did he a NAME??, WTF"
hell, at least use his membername, *******. But again, as said before, some people are simply fulfilling a sexual fetish - and the human attached is nothing more than Life Support to an appendage.


Now....that TOTALLY works for a lot of Black Men - my thng is, is your Humanity worth some pussy?? Not mine. We have a saying in Black Culture (you might wanna write this down in your Learning Black Folk notes lol) - the saying is ACT LIKE YOU BEEN SOMEWHERE.
Sommole these guys act like white pussy is just the greatest thing since Jesus fuckin Christ - like its going out of business and they ready to sell they identity for that 'Good White Woman Pussy! Awwww yassar! Miss Daisy got sum goooood ole pussy!' [insert racial image here]


Let me stop, smdh....

I never refer to a chick as 'the slut'. I might call you 'A Slut' as an agreed upon designation :) - but folks need to calm TF down, and remember we all Humans up in here.

This reminds me of scenes from the (epic!) show Spartacus: ******* and Sand series. How the Romans would nonchalantly as fuck just refer to other humans as slaves - chattel - nothing more than a step above animals, to carry out their bidding. Every once in a while, a gladiator would be used for sexual perversions, to the delight of the Roman fuckwads.

Sometimes hanging out here I get that same feeling, like sommole these Brothas are willing sex -gladiators. Call them what the fuck you want as long as they all willing participants, right?

Damn I said a lot.

-Mike

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@BBCnATX - right on - right on my brotha you said a lot but you laid it out straight and perfectly. Except these brothas are not Gladiators in no comparison as they can't even put up a small fight to challenge the BBC misnomer. Nah they act more like the cowardly lion from Oz and are plain chattel willingly taking on the name their "Roman" masters give them and volutarily upholding the system of sexual serfdom. You and I so far are the only Spartacuses trying to lead the slave revolt and calling them to wake up to take their minds, and self-worth back. Even if I was the lone voice in the wilderness I'd stand my ground until my voice would be lost speaking on this issue.

Some may shrug at this issue being raised and think its trival but deep at the root of the problem is that most of our fellow Brothas don't get is that the concept that letting yourself be referred to as just a BBC and even worse referring to yourself as one is not being seen as a human being but just an object that a women wants to use for her own selfish reason. Your reducing your value as a three-dimensional human being just down simply to a BBC as your primary value. Do we refer to white women as BWB's (Big White Breasts/Butts). No- see the problem here.

Also in my observations, people (the woman and couples) who do use the term see no other value in a Black man beyond his cock and at its core still hold a superiority mentality in that all they want is the thrill of a BBC like some exotic human-size vibrator that is disposable serving no other purpose beyond them fulfilling their sexual satisfaction and a deep-seated rebellious attitude to their racist parents. Bottom-line its still all about their own personal want.

I challenge this belief whenever couples/women use it with me and if they don't correct themselves immediately I have no problem ceasing communication immediately to make a point. I'm not lowering my value nor selling out my soul for a quick fuck. If you know your worth more than a vault of gold why are you selling yourselves like your only worth a roll of copper pennies?

So not to solely hamper about the problem but to also offer some solutions. Lets take a note from the pages of couples/women who are doing it right in wanting to get to know a well hung Black man/stud/stallion/Bull. Have a little more social conscientious to realize the fact that the BBC term when referring to a Black man is objectifying him and reducing his worth and existence to solely his big cock. Most couples/women also ask for someone to talk to them respectfully and not use the 'slut, bitch, cunt' word which are just as bad as well. In return recognize its a man ‘with a name’ behind the BBC that he has swinging and is slinging that you so love him to serve up.

He is not just your wife's BBC, or your having a couple of BBCs come by the house, its James, or KingSupremeBBC, or Blackbull :blackgrimace: you got coming by to have a great time with.

~BBB76
 
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Here we are trying to understand what is going on. BBC is found to be offensive, I am extremely offended the way white cuckolds allow themselves to be called white Bois, I can see where BBC could be offensive to a black man. I personally wouldn't call a woman a slut, whore, bitch or cunt either. It was stated that white people need to stop telling black people what is offensive to, or racist to them. White people should not consider black men as sexual toys and black men should not call me a white boi, I am not a boy , I am a man, a ******* and a grandfather. I don't have a black friend, never have, but I don't have a Russian, Mexican or Asia for examples. That doesn't say I look at any of them as lesser beings, It Says I have always lived in central Maine. My graduating class in high school had 250 young people, not a one was other than white. So I have never told any black person what they should see as racist to them, but I do have a right to state what I find to be racist toward me. The biggest cancer of racism on this sit I have found to be white cuckold men calling themselves bois and other negative expressions. This site runs on beating down both white and black people. I don't think I am racist and I from the start on here found BBC to be questionable, and now I may have used it as well because it is ever where on here and in porn. BBC is something used that I didn't realize offended anyone,so I don't plan to use it again.
 
Here we are trying to understand what is going on. BBC is found to be offensive, I am extremely offended the way white cuckolds allow themselves to be called white Bois, I can see where BBC could be offensive to a black man. I personally wouldn't call a woman a slut, whore, bitch or cunt either. It was stated that white people need to stop telling black people what is offensive to, or racist to them. White people should not consider black men as sexual toys and black men should not call me a white boi, I am not a boy , I am a man, a ******* and a grandfather. I don't have a black friend, never have, but I don't have a Russian, Mexican or Asia for examples. That doesn't say I look at any of them as lesser beings, It Says I have always lived in central Maine. My graduating class in high school had 250 young people, not a one was other than white. So I have never told any black person what they should see as racist to them, but I do have a right to state what I find to be racist toward me. The biggest cancer of racism on this sit I have found to be white cuckold men calling themselves bois and other negative expressions. This site runs on beating down both white and black people. I don't think I am racist and I from the start on here found BBC to be questionable, and now I may have used it as well because it is ever where on here and in porn. BBC is something used that I didn't realize offended anyone,so I don't plan to use it again.

@Hottobe cucked - I got no qualms with you having a problem being called a white-boi. Stand-up for yourself and demand respect however there are other men who happen to be white that are effeminate, submissive, and like to be called the term. I personally don't really use it however I do and have used the term cuck-boi where it applied and in a role-playing situation. The term 'boi' as appended on the end of cuck could refer to a cuckold Black guy too. I actually know a couple with a Black guy and he lets his hotwife who happens to be white play with Bulls too (both white and Black). Could he be referred to as a cuck-boi well he sure can if he takes no offense to it and welcomes it again in a role-play scenario.

However the issue of women/couples saying "...my wife's BBC came over last night", or "we are going to have a bunch of BBCs come over the house tomorrow" is plain ridiculous to me as my man @BBCnATX pointed out these guys do have names and are Black men, not chattel nor life size dildo objects. However I also do understand that the nonsense is perpetrated on both sides with Black guys willingly going along with it too.

I personally have always held myself in high enough esteem to not allow myself be treated in such a demeaning demeanor. I never stood for it when I was young and encountered such adversity and I'm dam sure not going to allow it to happen now.

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@Hottobe cucked - I got no qualms with you having a problem being called a white-boi. Stand-up for yourself and demand respect however there are other men who happen to be white that are effeminate, submissive, and like to be called the term. I personally don't really use it however I do and have used the term cuck-boi where it applied and in a role-playing situation. The term 'boi' as appended on the end of cuck could refer to a cuckold Black guy too. I actually know a couple with a Black guy and he lets his hotwife who happens to be white play with Bulls too (both white and Black). Could he be referred to as a cuck-boi well he sure can if he takes no offense to it and welcomes it again in a role-play scenario.

However the issue of women/couples saying "...my wife's BBC came over last night", or "we are going to have a bunch of BBCs come over the house tomorrow" is plain ridiculous to me as my man @BBCnATX pointed out these guys do have names and are Black men, not chattel nor life size dildo objects. However the I do understand the nonsense is perpetrated on both sides with Black guys willingly going along with it too.

I personally have always held myself in high enough esteem to not allow myself be treated in such a demeaning demeanor. I never stood for it when I was young and encountered such adversity and I'm dam sure not going to allow it to happen now.

bigblackbull76 As I have read much of your posts, you have had a positive effect on me, I find you to be a man that deserves respect because you earn it. The only thing I defiantly take issue with is other white men saying on here, that all white Bios are pathetic and have to be so submissive that they expect all cuckolds to see things the same way they do. I am not pathetic, my penis is much smaller than I would have liked, so I find it very exciting that women receive such pleasure and satisfaction from real bulls just like you. I am a ******* with a ******* and ******* that I had no trouble helping to create, and I have been a grandfather since the age of 41. As far as me standing up for myself, I would not let anyone cross the line with me or a wife or girlfriend. I am not saying that games cannot be played and I would like my woman to freedom, I would like to give her my blessing in her choices.
 
bigblackbull76 As I have read much of your posts, you have had a positive effect on me, I find you to be a man that deserves respect because you earn it. The only thing I defiantly take issue with is other white men saying on here, that all white Bios are pathetic and have to be so submissive that they expect all cuckolds to see things the same way they do. I am not pathetic, my penis is much smaller than I would have liked, so I find it very exciting that women receive such pleasure and satisfaction from real bulls just like you. I am a ******* with a ******* and ******* that I had no trouble helping to create, and I have been a grandfather since the age of 41. As far as me standing up for myself, I would not let anyone cross the line with me or a wife or girlfriend. I am not saying that games cannot be played and I would like my woman to freedom, I would like to give her my blessing in her choices.
@Hottobe cucked - you are indeed a man and not a boi. Stand-tall, proud, and respect begets respect so don't let anyone disrespect you. I understand where your coming from about white men demeaning themselves and what your expressing is similar to what I'm expressing but just on the flip-side of the coin whereas my concerns are with the problem of Black men demeaning themselves to just being a tool or an object.


We are a lot closer in our convictions than we are far apart albeit we are speaking to the men who have the same shade of skin as ourselves.

As the late great Aretha Franklin so beautifully sang all we are both asking for is ...

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