I don't care thr reason you stand for the anthem maybe service to the country instilled it
Trump lost moving on with new year go Biden
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The video was a fine argument the pic made my ******* boil should pic something else
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LOL, Does your ******* boil when innocent black men get gunned down by these Racist ass Policemen?
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Igotskillz27
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I just want people like your self to have that same energy when all the craziness is happening with police *******.
I think we live in a police state and don't trust them in the least.I really get pissed when i see the blue stripe flag
Like it or not...…..we fought for the right for him to do that....as long as he doesn't burn or disrespect it anyway....he was just using his freedom of speech......would have rather he did it another way.....but it was still a peaceful demonstration of what he was trying to say
Why can't we say innocent people
i think he could have picked any other moment
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Innocent people killed by police
won't argue that...he just picked a time that would put the most spotlight on the issue
But sometimes anger clouds the message
true....but your man trump stirred that anger....something he does a lot of
he likes to push patriotism and a few other things like the wall....to rile up his base...and create division in the country
and yet he is going against the senate and others on arms deals to the Saudi's.....deals with the Russians...immigration to begin with is a door he opened....the wall....most say there are better ways of dealing with security...but he HAD to have the wall....his way or nothing
It's probably because hes always on defense
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When you are a scam artist and crook and
always fucking over folks, you're always on the defense.
What's crazy, is this guy has tons of badd qualities and so call decent people love him to death.
For instance you could not treat your friend like he treats the American public i.e. Lie all the time.
I double dare you to tell one of those Black that fuck your wife to go back where they came from?
read this if you can...if not you might want to further your education
in most states the 3rd grade is not considered a high school education
Democrats Are Better Than Republicans
1. Historical data from up to 70 years
1. Debt and Deficit. In the past 17 Presidential terms , nine were GOP led and eight Democratic. Of nine GOP Presidents, six added to debt/GDP and deficit/GDP as a percent. The only three that did not, had a Democratic House and Senate. Of eight Democrats, each one, reduced deficit/GDP and debt/GDP as a percent. That is 66 years of rhetoric of fiscal responsibility with zero net results for GOP. What makes matters even worse, is the fact that the president who added a historical 20.7% to the debt has one unique aspect of his presidency – President G. W. Bush had a GOP majority House and Senate.
2. Spending. The Republican Party often talks about financial responsibility, but did you know that since 1978-2011, spending has gone up 9.9% under Democrats versus 12.1% under GOP .
3. Federal Debt. Republicans love to tell us how they will not close tax loopholes on millionaires and billionaires, yet never bring to our attention that from 1978-2011 debt went up 4.2% under Democrats versus 36.4% under the GOP.
4. GDP. The only thing that the Democrats have a higher numerical yield than the GOP led administrations, is the GDP. It’s a good thing to have it at 12.6% versus a GOP 10.7%. From 1960 to 2005 the gross domestic product measured in year-2000 dollars rose an average of $165 billion a year under Republican presidents and $212 billion a year under Democrats.
5. Big Government. Federal spending (aka “big government”): It has gone up an average of about $50 billion a year under presidents of both parties. But that breaks down as $35 billion a year under Democratic presidents and $60 billion under Republicans. If you assume that it takes a year for a president’s policies to take effect, Democrats have raised spending by $40 billion a year and Republicans by $55 billion.
6. Federal Deficit. Under Republican presidents since 1960, the federal deficit has averaged $131 billion a year. Under Democrats, that figure is $30 billion. In an average Republican year, the deficit has grown by $36 billion. In the average Democratic year it has shrunk by $25 billion.
7. National Debt. The national debt has gone up more than $200 billion a year under Republican presidents and less than $100 billion a year under Democrats.
8. Inflation and Unemployment. Democratic presidents have a better record on inflation (averaging 3.13 percent compared with 3.89 percent for Republicans) and on unemployment (5.33 percent versus 6.38 percent). Unemployment went down in the average Democratic year, up in the average Republican one.
Outcome: Based on the data, Democrats have had a much more successful run when it comes to economy, job creation, debt and deficit, and shockingly, even spending.
Plain facts, but what about the qualitative data. Let’s look at some of the best aspects of economy, and drill-down to specific presidencies to see which one added what to the economy. I look at the pivotal economic factors and researched which president added:
1. Greatest gross domestic product (GDP) growth?
2. Biggest jobs increase?
3. Best after-tax personal disposable income rise?
4. Highest industrial production growth?
5. The lowest Misery Index, which is inflation plus unemployment?
6. The lowest inflation?
7. The largest federal budget deficit reduction?
There answers are, if you are done guessing? Okay , here are the answers: 1. Clinton; 2. Truman; 3. Carter; 4. Johnson; 5. Kennedy; 6. Truman; 7. Truman; 8. Clinton.
Outcome: It is also a Democratic sweep.
So, now you are thinking two things. One, this does not mean too much because it takes time for a President’s policies to come into effect and two, what about Obama since this is all in the past?
To address our first question, I gathered this information: First, the analyses presented above took into account the transition time to for policies to kick-in and factored in relative adjustments. Plus, I find it hard to believe that it was just a fluke a that six of nine GOP Presidents failed in terms of GDP and Debt, and not even one of eight Democrats did. So I wanted to look at GOP Presidents that followed at least two GOP terms and Democratic Presidents that followed at least two Democratic terms. Here is the verdict: Truman, who followed two Democratic terms and still succeeded in all areas of economy, while Bush senior, who followed two Republican terms still added to debt and deficit through excessive spending.
Outcome: This highlights an interesting point that somehow Democrats who follow Democrats still outperform economically, and Republicans who followed GOP presidents somehow still failed to perform in absence of policies of the other party impacting them anymore.
Now, the second part, Obama. So, some people who supported him in 2008 are fed up a little. He shows no leadership in the face of stiff tea party politics. But here is the truth about the man who promised you to pass the health care reform, who promised you to repeal Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, who promised you that, while it will take time, he will slow down economic failure and he promised you that he will do everything to keep manufacturing jobs in the US. In his defense, he did all of that and then some.
He passed the Health Care Reform Act. He repealed the discriminatory DADT policy. Since he has become president, he has already created more net jobs in his first two years than Bush administration did in 8 years altogether. While GDP growth is slow, it has been positive now for 8 straight quarters since the stimulus was passed, which also worked. Not to mention, Obama inherited an economy in a wreck where the GDP had fallen to over 8.8 percent, the banking industry has just collapsed, two wars were going on for about seven years, and above all, he took over from a President who had raised the debt ceiling a historic, record six times while taking a 53% debt at the beginning of his first term and transforming it into an 84% by the end. According to my research, the Obama administration added more jobs to the economy than eight years of the former President Bush did. The GDP has now been positive for 8 straight quarters bouncing from a negative 8.8%.
Obama extended Bush bailouts and bailed out the auto industry because many US jobs were at risk and our auto industry was soon to become foreign at the hands of global buy outs. Well, this past May, Chrysler paid off its loans . The American auto industry is still American, those jobs in the Mid West still exist. Obama, despite the roughest opposition that any president has faced, still did all he promised. But, here is an eye-opening compilation on more: See what else Obama has done. Also, I must include the fact that we have half as many troops in Iraq, a 2014 plan to be out of Afghanistan, and Osama bin Laden is dead. You don’t need a hyperlink for that, do you? Oh, and he also became the first president ever to have to deal with a distraction of proving, through his birth certificate, that he is an American.
I would like to make one more really important point here because a lot of Republicans often cite their desire to vote for GOP candidates despite their stiff opposition to social and civil freedoms in exchange of offering small government. It is a fact that as Americans we are living in the time of the smallest government in half a century. We are paying the lowest taxes, some of the largest free-trade agreements, and a proposal to pay even lower corporate taxes, small business reliefs, and to lower income taxes down from 6.2% offered by President Bush to 3.2% proposed by Obama and the democrats. It is even mentioned in a post at FOX News.
Outcome: The Obama administration has done everything they promised to do when elected, socially and economically. Democrats have failed to improve the economy but have been very successful in creating jobs and avoiding further economic slip. Actually, this administration has now added over three million jobs in 23 straight months of positive employment gains. 2010 and 2011 also mark the first years since 1997 to see positive gains in manufacturing jobs, as shown in this interactive graph. Additionally, March 2012 marks the month in which the Nasdaq hit 3,000 mark for the first time since dot-com bubble. The Dow Jones hit 13,000 for the first time, growing at 63% under Obama which is the fifth best for any president, and the S&P 500 hit 1,400 for the first time since 2008 showing a remarkable economic recovery on the free-floating capital indexes.
Living standard review of GOP vs. Democratic states
Finally, it’s not fair to highlight just money issues. How about the living standards? None of us desire to live in poverty, food scarcity, without health insurance or earn below a minimum wage. Here is an eye-opening part of my analysis that truly shook me.
The worst standards of living are in states that have Republican legislatures. One can argue that it is just that the poor in the deep South that vote a GOP heavy legislature, but when coupled with all the economic statistics listed above, that argument starts to appear very vulnerable. These conservative states have highest poverty levels despite having all GOP fiscal policies in place, for example:
Poverty. Not even one liberal state has over an 18% poverty rate – six GOP states including Texas do.
This study highlights how a huge population of Texans live under an extreme poverty-stricken climate earning below minimum wage, without health insurance access, and without access to daily food while being abused as workers.
Outcome: While GOP policies seem exciting in rhetoric, when given full liberty to implement them through a Republican controlled legislature like the one in the southern states, they are very ineffective. When Democratic financial policies are given full freedom of being implemented, like in the liberal states, they have been much more effective.
I already explained the GOP vs Democrats on social issues in my other post , through which we understand some fundamental differences such as democrats wanting to legalize gay marriage while GOP candidates run clinics to cure gays, GOP candidates working on legislation to criminalize gays and ban gay marriage, GOP legislation to outlaw Islam, and so on and so forth. But, about economic report, here is a recap and conclusion.
1. GOP Presidents have failed, Democrats have not. Historically over last six decades, Democrats have been consistently successful economically, while six of nine Republicans have failed. Keeping in mind the argument that policies of previous administrations haunt the following, the Democrat Truman that followed two Democratic terms still reduced debt and deficit, the Republican, Bush senior, that followed two Republican terms, still added to both.
2. GOP States have lowest living standards, Democratic states do not.
3. Obama has done what he promised and the economy is getting better. It is just hard to climb out of a financial black hole overnight. He still created more jobs than lost, delivered eight straight positive GDP quarters, and the debt that was growing at $3.65 trillion over four years, is now slowed down to about $1.6 trillion. You were not expecting him to change the economy overnight; I know I was not.
4. The GOP offers rhetoric, Democrats offer plans. I will really back this one for you through solid examples. Remember the debt crisis? Democrats took into account an earlier GOP report in which the GOP stated that the most optimum for economic growth is a deficit reduction plan that has an 85-15 split between cuts and revenues. Democrats offered an 83-17 with $6 in cuts for just $1 in return in tax loophole expiration on millionaires and billionaires. It was a mammoth $4 trillion debt reduction offer. The GOP walked away from it, and failed to offer an alternative. Similarly, remember Heathcare reform? Democrats took a major step by offering a plan under which most Americans would be covered, people would be allowed to stay on parents’ insurance after college graduation, insurance companies will no longer be able to increase cost or drop people after an illness, neither will they be able to refuse insurance to people with a preexisting condition. The GOP is currently running on an agenda to repeal that. The GOP alternative? It does not exist.
5. Democrats are willing to sacrifice, the GOP has evolved into a party of “Always No”. The shared Retirement Sacrifice Act of 2011 , which would require lawmakers to wait until the age of 66 to collect their pensions and take a pay cut has been introduced by an Ohio Democrat. Her logic is that congress should also take a pay cut and delayed retirement like other Americans do. Do you know why her simple bill is not passing? The GOP has it blocked. Additionally, as the Democrats fight to raise the age and reduce benefits for themselves and their GOP peers, Rep. John Fleming (LA), a republican responded to a proposed tax loophole expiration on millionaires and billionaires by saying that “by the time I feed my family, I have maybe $400,000 left over.” Thus, fighting against another democratic plan.
6. Democrats reform, GOP wants to take a step back without reform. Last election Democrats offered ideas that would alter the future such as Healthcare reform, the repeal of don’t ask don’t tell, creation of anti-discriminatory laws, Postal Services Reform which is happening right now, lower taxes on small businesses, tax write-offs on first 104K paid in employee salary for large businesses, and increase education funding to keep America’s edge. Have you notices the GOP platform this year? It has been: Repeal Healthcare reform, repeal the end of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, ban gay marriage, ban building of Islamic religious institutions, block tax reform on millionaires and billionaires, block the jobs act, block deficit reduction plans, abolish the Department of Education, and abolish the EPA. Do you notice a trend? It’s a step back through repeal without alternatives or abolishing of institutions without an alternative plan.
Certainly, I understand these are politics, and all GOP donations come from big businesses but to letting America’s credit rating fall to protect millionaires and billionaires just because the 2012 election is on the horizon is probably not the best approach for America. While a Democratic donation averages $69 and comes from every day Americans, GOP donations average large sums from huge lobby groups and in order to be competitive the GOP has to protect its interests. But at the end of the day, we hire politicians not to win but to make America succeed. I want you to take these facts into account, remember, you are the CEO and you have a choice to make. I exhort you to make that choice keeping our social freedoms and financial facts into account.
I exhort you to educate yourself. When the GOP tells you that they want to lower taxes on millionaires and billionaires and cut education funding and corporate regulations to help the economy grow, understand that capitalism is not pro-business, it is pro-consumer. Businesses thrive with regulation and demand it. Understand that the GOP wants to cut educational funding because we see a direct link between higher education and an increase in more liberal voting patterns. Please understand that tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires do not funnel into an economic spur, as one of the best investors Warren Buffet, who saved GE, Goldman Sachs, and now the Bank of America from a colossal collapse explains
I have presented you past data, current policies, poverty statistics, and current party agendas. I wanted to just ask myself one last litmus test question. What have GOP and Democratic states added to America to see what kind of societies GOP versus Democratic governments create? If GOP economics really work, then we should see them work in states where we vote GOP legislatures and vice versa for Democratic states.
From the entertainment industry based in California to IT in Silicon Valley, each one of the Ivy League schools to Health Care and Life Sciences industry based in Philadelphia-NJ area, from banking based in NYC to the services hub in Boston, and all the way down to high-tech in Seattle, almost all of America’s progress comes from liberal states. But what is even more shocking is that a lot of southern progress happened in places like Atlanta, with large telecommunications’ industry development post 1996 Olympics, where about majority of Atlanta’s population is liberal and ascends from the north east. The truth is, this alone is a litmus test. Democrats have financially outperformed GOP governments economically and are offering actual plans as opposed to simple repeal ideas. Republicans have carved societies that are drastically behind in economic, living standards, or academic progress.
Interesting article rich with facts @subhub174014 and interesting video @Igotskillz27 loaded with information from that pastor. If you notice any facts that I share I always reference my sources what are yours @subhub174014 ? ( Which is odd as you usually do that? ) And to @Igotskillz27 who was that pastor as he never said who he was? Or what that church is? Or where it is? I don't expect you to have all of the references to his material but I already addressed one thing not too long ago where Trump refused to rent any of his apartments to Blacks as well as the issue with the "Central Park 5" as seen here: https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/go-trump.160047/page-42#post-2469964 . As further proof another one of my recent posts quotes Fred Trump's wiki page:
"Court records showed that four landlords or rental agents confirmed that applications sent to the Trump organization's head office for approval denoted the race of the applicant.[53] A rental agent said that Fred Trump had instructed him 'not to rent to blacks' and to 'decrease the number of black tenants by encouraging them to locate housing elsewhere.'[53]"
At that time Fred Trump, his *******, was in control. He was a racist probably until he died on 1999. Fred Trump suffered from Alzheimers disease from as early as 1993. I suggest from roughly at that time when Donald had control how things were done at his businesses things changed where he was more open to Blacks. Because even if Trump never knew Chuck Berry personally as a friend what would motivate such a "racist" man as Donald Trump to even be seen anywhere near a Black man like him?
Plus also with the very recent issue happening as I type as Donald is working hard to free A$AP Rocky from his unjustified incarceration in Sweden, that article from "The Guardian" mentions how "Many, many members of the African American community have called me, friends of mine" of Trump appealed to him to see if he can intervene as POTUS. Even forgetting Kanye West, if you go back to page 6 of this thread where I list all of those videos there are several Black social influencers that are very rich on their own right and they don't need a cent from Trump and a few of those individuals may shock you.
Trump may not be a perfect man, but seeing that you are replying to me in your next response @Igotskillz27 I eagerly await your response how you could as an intelligent Black man be able to think for yourself be associated with a party with such a historic legacy of keeping the Black man down? This is some time ago where I originally stated this @Igotskillz27 so I will restate it even though I recall mentioning it recently in a recent post?
I did once state from ( https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/trump-wins.79333/page-13#post-1223768 ) that slavery was a productive era in America's history as technologically speaking at the time, the cotton gin (at least in the deep south), was an invention that kept Blacks on the plantation picking cotton and ruined the Republicans attempt at ending slavery. Before Whitney’s gin entered into widespread use, the United States produced roughly 750,000 bales of cotton, in 1830. By 1850 that amount had exploded to 2.85 million bales. This production was concentrated almost exclusively in the South, because of the weather conditions needed for the plant to grow. Faster processing of cotton with the gin meant it was profitable for landowners to establish previously-unthinkably large cotton plantations across the south. But harvesting cotton remained a very labor-intensive undertaking. Thus, bigger cotton farms meant the need for more slaves. The slave population in the United States increased nearly five-fold in the first half of the 19th Century, and by 1860, the South provided about two-thirds of the world’s cotton supply. Southern wealth had become reliant on this one crop and thus was completely dependent on slave-labor.
( a quote from http://www.civilwar.org/resources/civil-war-history-how-the.html#)
Note that the Republicans were the champions that attempted to stop slavery at that time as well, not the Democrats because they were the slaveowners @Igotskillz27as the Democrats refused because they were the slave owners making money off their backs?
And might I also remind you @Igotskillz27 that you are also apart of a party that shunned Jesse Owens, who after his career as an athlete joined the Republicans? Remember what Jesse Owens said about the then Democratic president FDR:
"...Owens, who joined the Republican Party after returning from Europe, was paid to campaign for African American votes for the Republican presidential nominee Alf Landon in the 1936 presidential election.[33][34] Speaking at a Republican rally held in Baltimore on October 9, 1936, Owens said "Some people say Hitler snubbed me. But I tell you, Hitler did not snub me. I am not knocking the President. Remember, I am not a politician, but remember that the President did not send me a message of congratulations because, people said, he was too busy."[35] Later, on October 15, 1936 Owens repeated this allegation when he addressed an audience of African Americans at a Republican rally in Kansas City remarking that "Hitler didn't snub me – it was our president who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram."[36][37]"
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Owens),
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(http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/571),
( cited from my post at https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/trump-wins.79333/page-13#post-1223768 )
Interestingly enough almost two decades passed before an American president, Dwight D. Eisenhower, a Republican, honored Owens by naming him “Ambassador of Sports” — in 1955 from
And the last most striking example is LBJ @Igotskillz27. Undoubtedly LBJ is applauding your efforts to maintain his prophecy from the grave in addition to whoever is that pastor you mentioned in case you have not seen that photo already? I wonder as a Black man how could you not even try to resist that? I would knowing what I know if I were an American.
With regard to that pastor's allegations that Trump cited that Hispanics were criminals. It is obvious he was referring to the criminal element. I doubt he was referring to every man, woman and c.hild as a criminal. It might be overboard for me to reference this as well but you do know there is a ******* war in Mexico and by extension all throughout Central America. As proof I recently cited how America caught "El Chapo" Guzman as seen here: https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/politics-politics-politics.35353/page-775#post-2478668.
And there are even more vicious people like El Mencho that is eager to fill the void that Guzman left with his own criminal empire in an article I found some time ago here which Trump was undoubtedly referring to:
This was before a time we were debating but sometime ago I did reference a certain Hispanic woman called Myriam Witcher where she screamed and embarrased herself during Trump's 2016 campaign "I'm Hispanic and I'll vote for Mr. Trump" as I mentioned in this prior post:
https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/trump-wins.79333/page-13#post-1223768
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Moreover there are several Latino organizations that are pro-Trump despite Trump naming them as criminals as they understood that he was referring to the criminal element like El Mencho aforestated. In fact according to "The Hill"
from (https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/450097-why-latinos-back-donald-trump) it states:
"Hispanic Americans will overtake African Americans as the second largest demographic group in the 2020 presidential election. That is bad news for Democrats, who are convinced that they are entitled to these millions of minority voters. Democrats just cannot understand why so many Latinos, especially in important battleground states such as Florida, continue to line up firmly behind President Trump. The thought simply terrifies them."
( cited from my post at https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/go-trump.160047/page-50#post-2477168)
Furthermore is the legacy of Margaret Sanger with "Planned Parenthood" that in of itself is too massive just to mention in this post. In return I also highly suggest you watch the movie "Unplanned" and hear for yourself what a director that worked there for 8 years has to say about it. It's on another thread you can see right here:
Sorry for taking too long for responding but I needed time to reference my material just in case anyone desired to check my facts. As you can see I have referenced everything ( even my referenced facts point to other references ) that I said above just as you might recall when you composed any essays in school you have to provide your references to back up what you say as proof, or names as I have done, and any websites so you can check it out for yourself if you are so inclined? Where are yours as I am just after that pastor's name as it was not highlighted and he never introduced himself? Or maybe even his church @Igotskillz27 ? In the future @Igotskillz27 it would be refreshing to see some proof as well because my posts, as long as this site does not delete them is airtight factually. Only my conclusions you may disagree with. And you might have miss a few of these chats and discuss things with @subhub174014 because even he confessed recently that Trump will win in 2020 as seen here:
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If one of Trump's greatest critics can of his own free will arrive at such an epiphany certainly in time you may as well @Igotskillz27 . I hope it will not ruin @subhub174014 's Democratic membership provided he has one? I won't tell them if you won't @subhub174014.
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"National Enquirer", p. 22, April 8, 2019
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can't find the link for that article now......but here are SEVERAL others saying the same thing
but since you not from here really doubt you care...anything to defend your corrupt god...you pass right over the facts and repost what you think we will read...after you have posted it how many times....I think that preacher about summed it up....hurts doesn't it?....but you can see he is in front of a crowd......must be others of the same opinion....what does that say for blacks supporting trump?...but then again you stopped when you saw what it was about didn't you
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but since you not from here really doubt you care...anything to defend your corrupt god...you pass right over the facts and repost what you think we will read...after you have posted it how many times....I think that preacher about summed it up....hurts doesn't it?....but you can see he is in front of a crowd......must be others of the same opinion....what does that say for blacks supporting trump?...but then again you stopped when you saw what it was about didn't you
Trump Is Right About One Thing: 'The Economy Does Better ...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2016/11/07/trump-is-right-about-one-thing-the...
Nov 07, 2016 · Trump Is Right About One Thing: 'The Economy Does Better Under The Democrats'. It is simply a fact that since World War II, Democratic presidents have seen 24.4 million more jobs created on their watch—an average of 78.6% more jobs created per year of Democratic administrations—than have Republican presidents.
These 5 charts prove that the economy does better under ...
https://www.salon.com/2015/12/28/these_5_charts_prove_that_the_economy_does_better...
Dec 28, 2015 · These 5 charts prove that the economy does better under Democratic presidents ... the President of the United States is a Democrat rather than a Republican…
The Black And White Numbers – Democrats Are Better Than ...
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The President of the United States Does Not Control the ...
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/07/why-the-economy-grows-faster...
Jul 28, 2014 · The President of the United States Does Not Control the Economy. The juiciest discovery from the paper is that in the last 70 years, the US economy has been better, across many metrics, when a Democrat has been the president. Here's a quick look at GDP growth by president going back to the second Truman administration ...
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The economy is in recession about 7% of the time under Democrats as compared to 28% of the time under Republicans. Republican presidents do tend to preside over lower inflation at least, but that is mostly to be expected given the generally more sluggish economic conditions during their terms.
Clinton: Economy Better Under Democrats - FactCheck.org
https://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/clinton-economy-better-under-democrats
Oct 20, 2015 · The U.S. economy performs much better when a Democrat is president than when a Republican is.” The analysis considered a 64-year period …
stiffbbc...BTW your pic with trump shaking hands means nothing...anyone can tell you he is a glory hound and likes to be seen and the center of attention.....chuck berry posed with a lot of people....probably didn't know half of them
I saw an article about chuck in playboy one time...3 full pages of a couple hundred naked women posing with him....all kinds of people at the Playboy mansion and at different concerts......he was a popular guy...people wanted to be seen with him....like your glory seeker
the guy hates minorities...….you think because you support him he will change his feelings for you?
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Jul 15, 2019 · Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019. Trump has repeatedly claimed he’s “the least racist person.” His history suggests otherwise.
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7 days ago · Trump’s Own Background Reveals the True Motivation Behind Racist Tweets: Pure White Supremacy ... Trump’s own personal background. After all, …
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Jan 14, 2018 · Donald Trump has been obsessed with race for the entire time he has been a public figure. He had a history of making racist comments as a New York real-estate developer in …
I saw an article about chuck in playboy one time...3 full pages of a couple hundred naked women posing with him....all kinds of people at the Playboy mansion and at different concerts......he was a popular guy...people wanted to be seen with him....like your glory seeker
the guy hates minorities...….you think because you support him he will change his feelings for you?
Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to ...
Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019
Trump has repeatedly claimed he’s "the least racist person." His history suggests otherwise.
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Jul 15, 2019 · Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019. Trump has repeatedly claimed he’s “the least racist person.” His history suggests otherwise.
Trump’s Own Background Reveals the ... - counterpunch.org
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/07/19/trumps-own-background-reveals-the-true...
7 days ago · Trump’s Own Background Reveals the True Motivation Behind Racist Tweets: Pure White Supremacy ... Trump’s own personal background. After all, …
Opinion | Donald Trump’s Racism: The Definitive List ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html
Jan 14, 2018 · Donald Trump has been obsessed with race for the entire time he has been a public figure. He had a history of making racist comments as a New York real-estate developer in …
stiffbbc...BTW your pic with trump shaking hands means nothing...anyone can tell you he is a glory hound and likes to be seen and the center of attention.....chuck berry posed with a lot of people....probably didn't know half of them
I saw an article about chuck in playboy one time...3 full pages of a couple hundred naked women posing with him....all kinds of people at the Playboy mansion and at different concerts......he was a popular guy...people wanted to be seen with him....like your glory seeker
the guy hates minorities...….you think because you support him he will change his feelings for you?
Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to ...
donald-trumpDonald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019
Trump has repeatedly claimed he’s "the least racist person." His history suggests otherwise.
Jul 15, 2019 · Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019. Trump has repeatedly claimed he’s “the least racist person.” His history suggests otherwise.
Trump’s Own Background Reveals the ... - counterpunch.org
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/07/19/trumps-own-background-reveals-the-true...
7 days ago · Trump’s Own Background Reveals the True Motivation Behind Racist Tweets: Pure White Supremacy ... Trump’s own personal background. After all, …
Opinion | Donald Trump’s Racism: The Definitive List ...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html
Jan 14, 2018 · Donald Trump has been obsessed with race for the entire time he has been a public figure. He had a history of making racist comments as a New York real-estate developer in …
you do get more than 'testy" when defending your man...and post and repost...…
I can understand republicans supporting their party...especially those in Biz.....
just how do you think he is going to do something to benefit you...outside of maybe start a war that would involve you
@Igotskillz27 is relatively new to these debates so I apologize as most of my arguments and my proof would be repetitious to you @subhub174014 moreover you are slipping a little as your recent detailed post did not have any references? You always had an excellent history of showing your evidence. Maybe you were in a hurry? I am citing this post of yours @subhub174014 :
read this if you can...if not you might want to further your education
in most states the 3rd grade is not considered a high school education
Democrats Are Better Than Republicans
1. Historical data from up to 70 years
1. Debt and Deficit. In the past 17 Presidential terms , nine were GOP led and eight Democratic. Of nine GOP Presidents, six added to debt/GDP and deficit/GDP as a percent. The only three that did not, had a Democratic House and Senate. Of eight Democrats, each one, reduced deficit/GDP and debt/GDP as a percent. That is 66 years of rhetoric of fiscal responsibility with zero net results for GOP. What makes matters even worse, is the fact that the president who added a historical 20.7% to the debt has one unique aspect of his presidency – President G. W. Bush had a GOP majority House and Senate.
2. Spending. The Republican Party often talks about financial responsibility, but did you know that since 1978-2011, spending has gone up 9.9% under Democrats versus 12.1% under GOP .
3. Federal Debt. Republicans love to tell us how they will not close tax loopholes on millionaires and billionaires, yet never bring to our attention that from 1978-2011 debt went up 4.2% under Democrats versus 36.4% under the GOP.
4. GDP. The only thing that the Democrats have a higher numerical yield than the GOP led administrations, is the GDP. It’s a good thing to have it at 12.6% versus a GOP 10.7%. From 1960 to 2005 the gross domestic product measured in year-2000 dollars rose an average of $165 billion a year under Republican presidents and $212 billion a year under Democrats.
5. Big Government. Federal spending (aka “big government”): It has gone up an average of about $50 billion a year under presidents of both parties. But that breaks down as $35 billion a year under Democratic presidents and $60 billion under Republicans. If you assume that it takes a year for a president’s policies to take effect, Democrats have raised spending by $40 billion a year and Republicans by $55 billion.
6. Federal Deficit. Under Republican presidents since 1960, the federal deficit has averaged $131 billion a year. Under Democrats, that figure is $30 billion. In an average Republican year, the deficit has grown by $36 billion. In the average Democratic year it has shrunk by $25 billion.
7. National Debt. The national debt has gone up more than $200 billion a year under Republican presidents and less than $100 billion a year under Democrats.
8. Inflation and Unemployment. Democratic presidents have a better record on inflation (averaging 3.13 percent compared with 3.89 percent for Republicans) and on unemployment (5.33 percent versus 6.38 percent). Unemployment went down in the average Democratic year, up in the average Republican one.
Outcome: Based on the data, Democrats have had a much more successful run when it comes to economy, job creation, debt and deficit, and shockingly, even spending.
Plain facts, but what about the qualitative data. Let’s look at some of the best aspects of economy, and drill-down to specific presidencies to see which one added what to the economy. I look at the pivotal economic factors and researched which president added:
1. Greatest gross domestic product (GDP) growth?
2. Biggest jobs increase?
3. Best after-tax personal disposable income rise?
4. Highest industrial production growth?
5. The lowest Misery Index, which is inflation plus unemployment?
6. The lowest inflation?
7. The largest federal budget deficit reduction?
There answers are, if you are done guessing? Okay , here are the answers: 1. Clinton; 2. Truman; 3. Carter; 4. Johnson; 5. Kennedy; 6. Truman; 7. Truman; 8. Clinton.
Outcome: It is also a Democratic sweep.
So, now you are thinking two things. One, this does not mean too much because it takes time for a President’s policies to come into effect and two, what about Obama since this is all in the past?
To address our first question, I gathered this information: First, the analyses presented above took into account the transition time to for policies to kick-in and factored in relative adjustments. Plus, I find it hard to believe that it was just a fluke a that six of nine GOP Presidents failed in terms of GDP and Debt, and not even one of eight Democrats did. So I wanted to look at GOP Presidents that followed at least two GOP terms and Democratic Presidents that followed at least two Democratic terms. Here is the verdict: Truman, who followed two Democratic terms and still succeeded in all areas of economy, while Bush senior, who followed two Republican terms still added to debt and deficit through excessive spending.
Outcome: This highlights an interesting point that somehow Democrats who follow Democrats still outperform economically, and Republicans who followed GOP presidents somehow still failed to perform in absence of policies of the other party impacting them anymore.
Now, the second part, Obama. So, some people who supported him in 2008 are fed up a little. He shows no leadership in the face of stiff tea party politics. But here is the truth about the man who promised you to pass the health care reform, who promised you to repeal Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, who promised you that, while it will take time, he will slow down economic failure and he promised you that he will do everything to keep manufacturing jobs in the US. In his defense, he did all of that and then some.
He passed the Health Care Reform Act. He repealed the discriminatory DADT policy. Since he has become president, he has already created more net jobs in his first two years than Bush administration did in 8 years altogether. While GDP growth is slow, it has been positive now for 8 straight quarters since the stimulus was passed, which also worked. Not to mention, Obama inherited an economy in a wreck where the GDP had fallen to over 8.8 percent, the banking industry has just collapsed, two wars were going on for about seven years, and above all, he took over from a President who had raised the debt ceiling a historic, record six times while taking a 53% debt at the beginning of his first term and transforming it into an 84% by the end. According to my research, the Obama administration added more jobs to the economy than eight years of the former President Bush did. The GDP has now been positive for 8 straight quarters bouncing from a negative 8.8%.
Obama extended Bush bailouts and bailed out the auto industry because many US jobs were at risk and our auto industry was soon to become foreign at the hands of global buy outs. Well, this past May, Chrysler paid off its loans . The American auto industry is still American, those jobs in the Mid West still exist. Obama, despite the roughest opposition that any president has faced, still did all he promised. But, here is an eye-opening compilation on more: See what else Obama has done. Also, I must include the fact that we have half as many troops in Iraq, a 2014 plan to be out of Afghanistan, and Osama bin Laden is dead. You don’t need a hyperlink for that, do you? Oh, and he also became the first president ever to have to deal with a distraction of proving, through his birth certificate, that he is an American.
I would like to make one more really important point here because a lot of Republicans often cite their desire to vote for GOP candidates despite their stiff opposition to social and civil freedoms in exchange of offering small government. It is a fact that as Americans we are living in the time of the smallest government in half a century. We are paying the lowest taxes, some of the largest free-trade agreements, and a proposal to pay even lower corporate taxes, small business reliefs, and to lower income taxes down from 6.2% offered by President Bush to 3.2% proposed by Obama and the democrats. It is even mentioned in a post at FOX News.
Outcome: The Obama administration has done everything they promised to do when elected, socially and economically. Democrats have failed to improve the economy but have been very successful in creating jobs and avoiding further economic slip. Actually, this administration has now added over three million jobs in 23 straight months of positive employment gains. 2010 and 2011 also mark the first years since 1997 to see positive gains in manufacturing jobs, as shown in this interactive graph. Additionally, March 2012 marks the month in which the Nasdaq hit 3,000 mark for the first time since dot-com bubble. The Dow Jones hit 13,000 for the first time, growing at 63% under Obama which is the fifth best for any president, and the S&P 500 hit 1,400 for the first time since 2008 showing a remarkable economic recovery on the free-floating capital indexes.
Living standard review of GOP vs. Democratic states
Finally, it’s not fair to highlight just money issues. How about the living standards? None of us desire to live in poverty, food scarcity, without health insurance or earn below a minimum wage. Here is an eye-opening part of my analysis that truly shook me.
The worst standards of living are in states that have Republican legislatures. One can argue that it is just that the poor in the deep South that vote a GOP heavy legislature, but when coupled with all the economic statistics listed above, that argument starts to appear very vulnerable. These conservative states have highest poverty levels despite having all GOP fiscal policies in place, for example:
This study highlights how a huge population of Texans live under an extreme poverty-stricken climate earning below minimum wage, without health insurance access, and without access to daily food while being abused as workers.
Outcome: While GOP policies seem exciting in rhetoric, when given full liberty to implement them through a Republican controlled legislature like the one in the southern states, they are very ineffective. When Democratic financial policies are given full freedom of being implemented, like in the liberal states, they have been much more effective.
I already explained the GOP vs Democrats on social issues in my other post , through which we understand some fundamental differences such as democrats wanting to legalize gay marriage while GOP candidates run clinics to cure gays, GOP candidates working on legislation to criminalize gays and ban gay marriage, GOP legislation to outlaw Islam, and so on and so forth. But, about economic report, here is a recap and conclusion.
1. GOP Presidents have failed, Democrats have not. Historically over last six decades, Democrats have been consistently successful economically, while six of nine Republicans have failed. Keeping in mind the argument that policies of previous administrations haunt the following, the Democrat Truman that followed two Democratic terms still reduced debt and deficit, the Republican, Bush senior, that followed two Republican terms, still added to both.
2. GOP States have lowest living standards, Democratic states do not.
3. Obama has done what he promised and the economy is getting better. It is just hard to climb out of a financial black hole overnight. He still created more jobs than lost, delivered eight straight positive GDP quarters, and the debt that was growing at $3.65 trillion over four years, is now slowed down to about $1.6 trillion. You were not expecting him to change the economy overnight; I know I was not.
4. The GOP offers rhetoric, Democrats offer plans. I will really back this one for you through solid examples. Remember the debt crisis? Democrats took into account an earlier GOP report in which the GOP stated that the most optimum for economic growth is a deficit reduction plan that has an 85-15 split between cuts and revenues. Democrats offered an 83-17 with $6 in cuts for just $1 in return in tax loophole expiration on millionaires and billionaires. It was a mammoth $4 trillion debt reduction offer. The GOP walked away from it, and failed to offer an alternative. Similarly, remember Heathcare reform? Democrats took a major step by offering a plan under which most Americans would be covered, people would be allowed to stay on parents’ insurance after college graduation, insurance companies will no longer be able to increase cost or drop people after an illness, neither will they be able to refuse insurance to people with a preexisting condition. The GOP is currently running on an agenda to repeal that. The GOP alternative? It does not exist.
5. Democrats are willing to sacrifice, the GOP has evolved into a party of “Always No”. The shared Retirement Sacrifice Act of 2011 , which would require lawmakers to wait until the age of 66 to collect their pensions and take a pay cut has been introduced by an Ohio Democrat. Her logic is that congress should also take a pay cut and delayed retirement like other Americans do. Do you know why her simple bill is not passing? The GOP has it blocked. Additionally, as the Democrats fight to raise the age and reduce benefits for themselves and their GOP peers, Rep. John Fleming (LA), a republican responded to a proposed tax loophole expiration on millionaires and billionaires by saying that “by the time I feed my family, I have maybe $400,000 left over.” Thus, fighting against another democratic plan.
6. Democrats reform, GOP wants to take a step back without reform. Last election Democrats offered ideas that would alter the future such as Healthcare reform, the repeal of don’t ask don’t tell, creation of anti-discriminatory laws, Postal Services Reform which is happening right now, lower taxes on small businesses, tax write-offs on first 104K paid in employee salary for large businesses, and increase education funding to keep America’s edge. Have you notices the GOP platform this year? It has been: Repeal Healthcare reform, repeal the end of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, ban gay marriage, ban building of Islamic religious institutions, block tax reform on millionaires and billionaires, block the jobs act, block deficit reduction plans, abolish the Department of Education, and abolish the EPA. Do you notice a trend? It’s a step back through repeal without alternatives or abolishing of institutions without an alternative plan.
Certainly, I understand these are politics, and all GOP donations come from big businesses but to letting America’s credit rating fall to protect millionaires and billionaires just because the 2012 election is on the horizon is probably not the best approach for America. While a Democratic donation averages $69 and comes from every day Americans, GOP donations average large sums from huge lobby groups and in order to be competitive the GOP has to protect its interests. But at the end of the day, we hire politicians not to win but to make America succeed. I want you to take these facts into account, remember, you are the CEO and you have a choice to make. I exhort you to make that choice keeping our social freedoms and financial facts into account.
I exhort you to educate yourself. When the GOP tells you that they want to lower taxes on millionaires and billionaires and cut education funding and corporate regulations to help the economy grow, understand that capitalism is not pro-business, it is pro-consumer. Businesses thrive with regulation and demand it. Understand that the GOP wants to cut educational funding because we see a direct link between higher education and an increase in more liberal voting patterns. Please understand that tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires do not funnel into an economic spur, as one of the best investors Warren Buffet, who saved GE, Goldman Sachs, and now the Bank of America from a colossal collapse explains
I have presented you past data, current policies, poverty statistics, and current party agendas. I wanted to just ask myself one last litmus test question. What have GOP and Democratic states added to America to see what kind of societies GOP versus Democratic governments create? If GOP economics really work, then we should see them work in states where we vote GOP legislatures and vice versa for Democratic states.
From the entertainment industry based in California to IT in Silicon Valley, each one of the Ivy League schools to Health Care and Life Sciences industry based in Philadelphia-NJ area, from banking based in NYC to the services hub in Boston, and all the way down to high-tech in Seattle, almost all of America’s progress comes from liberal states. But what is even more shocking is that a lot of southern progress happened in places like Atlanta, with large telecommunications’ industry development post 1996 Olympics, where about majority of Atlanta’s population is liberal and ascends from the north east. The truth is, this alone is a litmus test. Democrats have financially outperformed GOP governments economically and are offering actual plans as opposed to simple repeal ideas. Republicans have carved societies that are drastically behind in economic, living standards, or academic progress.
