The Future of Cuckoldry and Hotwifing . . . .

[Anthony0542]

Top 3-5? Sounds like a homework assignment.

1. Open Relationship - male and female are free to play
2. Stag/Vixen - male supports the female while she plays. He is of equal status as the female and there is no humiliation involved
2a. A variance of the Stag/Vixen; a percentile support interracial activity.
3. Polygamy - different combinations (MMF / FFM / FMFM) live together in a marriage like construct

How's that?

I love it Donna. Get on that homework assignment...hahahahaha

nice list......

Here is why I think IR cuckold might move up the list fast. My premise is that in open sexual relationships people move to the sex that provides the most pleasure and intensity and the feeling lasts for a long time.....I just think IR cuckold will win that race once it’s exposed and excepted which it will be on the heals of the acceptance of more interracial relationships and polyamory

If you are in a consensual non monogamous relationship - the sex you are looking for is hot and highly desirous....I just don’t think any of the other ones will top the IR - but it all depends on exposure.

Just my opinion.....maybe if I was on a BDSM website - I would make the cause for that but I still think IR wins - especially when you use a black bull to BDSM.

 

[Anthony0542]

***accepted and heels

 

[Anthony0542]

Donna, you are right though. Open relationships based on sex will still be a small percentage. I don’t think we will ever be in situation where the percentage is 30% of relationships but it will grow because there will be the option to do that.

What do y’all think?

 

[Dblinsey]

I love it Donna. Get on that homework assignment...hahahahaha

nice list......

Here is why I think IR cuckold might move up the list fast. My premise is that in open sexual relationships people move to the sex that provides the most pleasure and intensity and the feeling lasts for a long time.....I just think IR cuckold will win that race once it’s exposed and excepted which it will be on the heals of the acceptance of more interracial relationships and polyamory

If you are in a consensual non monogamous relationship - the sex you are looking for is hot and highly desirous....I just don’t think any of the other ones will top the IR - but it all depends on exposure.

Just my opinion.....maybe if I was on a BDSM website - I would make the cause for that but I still think IR wins - especially when you use a black bull to BDSM.

I agree most with your final statement. We're ultra focused on the topic of this forum. This leads us to believe that we are an increasingly popular activity. But when properly conducted polls are taken, I would bet that while open relationships are on the increase in general, those involving interracial aspects will increase in numbers, but will remain pretty much the same, percentile wise.

You may have 100 couples decide to engage in an open relationship. Of these, 25 are in an interracial one. Years later, you may have 1,000 couples engaging in open relationships, of those, 250 will be in interracial ones. Has the number of interracial couples increased? Yes, obviously it has. Has the percentile of interracial couples as compared to open relationships increased? No it hasn't.

Now, take a step back. You have 1,000 couples. Of those, 100 have entered into an open relationship. Five years later, you have the same number of couples surveyed. Of those, you have 350 engaged in open relationships. This underscores the point I made early on. I think the instance of open relationships (Pure Open, Cuckold/Hotwife, Stag/Vixen) WILL increase; increase dramatically and increase rapidly. But I think the percentile of interracial relationships to general open relationships will remain constant.

 

[Anthony0542]

As always Donna, well throughout and written response. I love my brain stimulated as much as my other head.

 

[Anthony0542]

As I think about it....a lot of what happens mainstream is what you see in the mainstream.

Donna, you are right - if there isn’t an intentional movement for IR open relationships in the mainstream (media, etc) - the numbers will stay the same - just a small percentage of open relationships

Although we are free to do whatever we want and have more options than we know what to do with.....as a whole, we still tend to do what the culture demands from us. And if the culture pushes one thing through the media - that is what the mainstream will follow. There will always be a small subset (less than 30%) that reject that but will always have to live in the shadows.

What is pushed - reality TV dating shows all trying to get into a great loving and passionate sex relationships - so everything that supports that is what we will do as a mainstream culture.

Good *******

 

[Anthony0542]

I do think there is a DEMAND COMING - no pun intended - for the necessity of the female orgasm. The demand for woman to orgasm when they have sex like men orgasm when they have sex.

There will be opportunities to talk about this lifestyle where women cum all the time and cum with great intensity. This will bring about awareness and more will try but if there isn’t an intentional push from the mainstream for this....it will live in the shadows.

And that’s ok.

 

[mywayintermsofsex]

i know you want to hold onto the idea that what I've said is false. Don't deny your desires. Just call them by their right names and suck all the cock you like,

i already do suck all the cocks i like - none! Your reply is stupid as you are trying to make a statement about a person you obviously don't know. What's your intent?

 

[mrandmrsbusty]

definitely think it will become more open and less of a taboo, probably/hopefully involving a form of ceremony

 

[Anthony0542]

A really good podcast by Dr. Valeria Chuba on the popularity that cuckolding can gain and how couples succeed in these relationships

E10: Introduction to Consensual Non-Monogamy (Open Relationships, Polyamory, Swinging)

In this episode, Dr. Valeria gives a quick primer on consensual non-monogamy: what it is; the various types of CNM relationships; and some tips if you're considering trying consensual non-monogamy in your own relationship. EPISODE NOTES Recommended books: Opening Up More Than Two The Ethical Slut

podcast.askdrvaleria.com

 

[jeff & christy]

A few thoughts:

There needs to be a legal, societal mechanism for "Good Marriages/Lackluster Sex/Bad Sex/No Sex." There should be other alternatives to divorce, sneaking around or doing without.

I like the idea of an evolved society handling these situations through Family Law Courts. If a wife is unhappy with her sex life in her marriage, she should be able to petition the court for judicial relief of some kind. This could involve a range of options from ordering the married couple to undergo marriage / sexual counseling, to ordering the husband to seek medical treatment for medical issues, to even ordering the husband to have a psych evaluation or take classes in female sexuality.

This entire dynamic needs to be brought out into the open more, for any number of reasons. So, when a matter comes before the Family Law Court, it should,to some large degree be a matter of public record. Perhaps not the details, but certainly naming the parties, detailing the ongoing court orders, and any final decrees of the court.

This will help bring problems to the light of day in a positive manner. It will let people know that there is a problem so they can lend support, but also open up alternatives for the couple to get needs met in the interim.

The Family Law Court can order the marriage opened completely, or more likely can declare the marriage to be a cuckold marriage once the culpability of the sexual failure is determined. If the wife is suffering a lack of consortium due to the husband's inability to perform or perform well for whatever reason, then the cuckold marriage can be declared in favor of the wife and the husband ordered to remain faithful subject to judicial penalties of various degrees.

If the married couple then begins to entertain male lovers for the wife, there should be a process where this comes before the court once it becomes a regular thing. If the sex is judged to be superior, then the lover should be given an easement on the cuckold male's wife with sexual rights to her on agreed terms and frequencies.

If the lover is a Dom, then there should be broader rights outlined for this dominant male with the wife - providing she agrees - for the specified terms and frequencies. If the husband wishes to be involved - even just to observe - the court should stipulate this, up to and including the rights of the dominant lover in this situation.

This should be a matter of public record and public interest so that family, friends, neighbors and coworkers can support the couple in the direction they wish to go, or are ordered by the courts to go.

Further, in marriages that are sexually under-performing or nonperforming, third parties should have the right to petition the Family Law Court with an Amicus Curiae ("friend of the court") brief alleging just cause to believe that a marriage is failing or under-performing sexually. The court would then order the husband and wife to appear and give sworn testimony regarding the matter. The court would dismiss the allegations, or refer them over for a hearing and continued judicial involvement.

Eventually, the court could make permanent rulings regarding the sexual nature of the marriage, even designating a lover to be a sexual guardian for the couple to handle and regulate their sex lives going forward for the benefit of all involved and society as a whole.

Just some thoughts reflecting on our experiences over the years.

 

[MacNfries]

I hear polyamorous and open relationships used synonymously in this thread, and there are quite a bit of differences and challenges regarding the two. I'm all for polyamorous relationships; I think "bonded/commitments relationships" can be maintained happily with more than just two persons in that relationship. Obviously, the more people involved, the more complicated it gets on all fronts of that relationship. The open-relationships such as swinging & cuckolding have challenges as well, with some addition "risks" involve.
This is a nice article on explaining the differences"
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/a19664033/polyamory-vs-open-relationships/

 

[sheetmusic]

I would like to see the following:

- National-level organized interracial cuckolding -- a society involving contracts, rules, and initiation rites
- The rise of polyamory and Black-Owned couples
- The new marriage -- White wife marries a Dominant Black Bull AND a sub white hubby
- Organized breeding programs that mate white women and Black men
- A new trend where white females want their first to be Black
- The spread of Black cock addiction

 

[jeff & christy]

I would like to see the following:

- National-level organized interracial cuckolding -- a society involving contracts, rules, and initiation rites
- The rise of polyamory and Black-Owned couples
- The new marriage -- White wife marries a Dominant Black Bull AND a sub white hubby
- Organized breeding programs that mate white women and Black men
- A new trend where white females want their first to be Black
- The spread of Black cock addiction

We can have organized cuckolding at the state level. I think we are already seeing polyamory and black men owning couples. We've had a regular for almost 8 years. The "new marriage" is what I spoke of, but I do not think black men are very interested in "marriage" per say. Ownership, definitely.

Breeding? Happens everyday. We have 5 children, three are biracial.

It is spreading.

 

[Hansjensen]

We can have organized cuckolding at the state level. I think we are already seeing polyamory and black men owning couples. We've had a regular for almost 8 years. The "new marriage" is what I spoke of, but I do not think black men are very interested in "marriage" per say. Ownership, definitely.

Breeding? Happens everyday. We have 5 children, three are biracial.

It is spreading.

Wow! That's amazing ?

 

[Dblinsey]

I agree with MacNfries as well as Jeff & Christy!

I don't believe that society should dictate how consenting adults go about finding relationships. If folks (in what ever combination) find happiness, and no one is harmed, then good on them!

MacNfries is right, open relationships are vastly different that Poly relationships. Open relationships can take countless forms while Poly relationships focus on a group of people living in a committed state - an extended marriage if you will.

Jeff & Christy have presented an interesting solution, albeit rather complex. While Family Courts may become involved, I personally don't see it becoming that 'forward leaning' - at least in the United States. Face it, the country is just too conservative to enact the type of legal system that would embrace that solution set.

I have said in other threads, while we are on the cusp of a 'relationship revolution' I strongly believe that mandatory sex education be introduced in the schools. Consider that we teach life skills already - math, english, science and the like. But no one in an official capacity wants to touch the most basic life skill there is - reproduction and the countless forms it manifests itself in.

Today, there is a huge push to accept gay, lesbian, transgender, and whatever perspective the individual has of themselves. But how confusing that must be for a baby, it 6th grade to see a playmate, whom she may have grown up with, now identifying herself as transgender? Who is educating that baby in the understanding, at the basic level, and acceptance at the social level? Currently, no one. From what I understand, it's being handled in a hap-hazard manner at best.

The same can be extended to interracial situations. ******* comes home from school to she her mom having 'fun' with a Black (or any man for that matter!) man. How is that addressed?

******* today see a ton of stuff on the internet. How do they differentiate between what is pandered off to them as 'normal' sexual activities and fringe? If the differential is taught in school, they would be armed with the knowledge they need to make informed decisions.

Basically, what I'm advocating is the sex and relationship information should be regarded in the same manner as math, english and other topics are, without preconceived notions, in an intelligent manner.

It's known fact that it isn't being done in the home. And when it is, it's done with the prejudice of the parents being either intentionally or unintentionally being injected into the lesson. I know it was done when I was growing up, and I only wish that I had been armed with the facts before I made some REALLY stupid decisions! Thank goodness smart phones with cameras weren't around then!!!

I'll get off my soapbox now. I think this thread has some awesome thoughts and theories as to where relationships are headed. But until folks, starting with the *******, are provided with the proper information, it will take twice as long and hurt a lot of people unnecessarily before a general understanding is achieved. Probably not in my lifetime!

 

[PervyVoyeur]

Well I think that black men should have the right to fuck any white girl bareback marred or not for a start

Because of this kind of bullshit, Cuckold / IR Porn, etc... is still a taboo.

I love IR porn too, i love cuckold too (my wife too) but u are watching too much porn. the right to fuck any white girl?

Dude, take off ur computer and go take some fresh hair. Leave the basement, this is real life.

 

[Twohavingfun]

Because of this kind of bullshit, Cuckold / IR Porn, etc... is still a taboo.

I love IR porn too, i love cuckold too (my wife too) but u are watching too much porn. the right to fuck any white girl?

Dude, take off ur computer and go take some fresh hair. Leave the basement, this is real life.

?

 

[Hansjensen]

I agree with MacNfries as well as Jeff & Christy!

I don't believe that society should dictate how consenting adults go about finding relationships. If folks (in what ever combination) find happiness, and no one is harmed, then good on them!

MacNfries is right, open relationships are vastly different that Poly relationships. Open relationships can take countless forms while Poly relationships focus on a group of people living in a committed state - an extended marriage if you will.

Jeff & Christy have presented an interesting solution, albeit rather complex. While Family Courts may become involved, I personally don't see it becoming that 'forward leaning' - at least in the United States. Face it, the country is just too conservative to enact the type of legal system that would embrace that solution set.

I have said in other threads, while we are on the cusp of a 'relationship revolution' I strongly believe that mandatory sex education be introduced in the schools. Consider that we teach life skills already - math, english, science and the like. But no one in an official capacity wants to touch the most basic life skill there is - reproduction and the countless forms it manifests itself in.

Today, there is a huge push to accept gay, lesbian, transgender, and whatever perspective the individual has of themselves. But how confusing that must be for a baby, it 6th grade to see a playmate, whom she may have grown up with, now identifying herself as transgender? Who is educating that baby in the understanding, at the basic level, and acceptance at the social level? Currently, no one. From what I understand, it's being handled in a hap-hazard manner at best.

The same can be extended to interracial situations. ******* comes home from school to she her mom having 'fun' with a Black (or any man for that matter!) man. How is that addressed?

******* today see a ton of stuff on the internet. How do they differentiate between what is pandered off to them as 'normal' sexual activities and fringe? If the differential is taught in school, they would be armed with the knowledge they need to make informed decisions.

Basically, what I'm advocating is the sex and relationship information should be regarded in the same manner as math, english and other topics are, without preconceived notions, in an intelligent manner.

It's known fact that it isn't being done in the home. And when it is, it's done with the prejudice of the parents being either intentionally or unintentionally being injected into the lesson. I know it was done when I was growing up, and I only wish that I had been armed with the facts before I made some REALLY stupid decisions! Thank goodness smart phones with cameras weren't around then!!!

I'll get off my soapbox now. I think this thread has some awesome thoughts and theories as to where relationships are headed. But until folks, starting with the *******, are provided with the proper information, it will take twice as long and hurt a lot of people unnecessarily before a general understanding is achieved. Probably not in my lifetime!

As always an excellent text, Donna ?

 

[Anthony0542]

I agree with MacNfries as well as Jeff & Christy!

I don't believe that society should dictate how consenting adults go about finding relationships. If folks (in what ever combination) find happiness, and no one is harmed, then good on them!

MacNfries is right, open relationships are vastly different that Poly relationships. Open relationships can take countless forms while Poly relationships focus on a group of people living in a committed state - an extended marriage if you will.

Jeff & Christy have presented an interesting solution, albeit rather complex. While Family Courts may become involved, I personally don't see it becoming that 'forward leaning' - at least in the United States. Face it, the country is just too conservative to enact the type of legal system that would embrace that solution set.

I have said in other threads, while we are on the cusp of a 'relationship revolution' I strongly believe that mandatory sex education be introduced in the schools. Consider that we teach life skills already - math, english, science and the like. But no one in an official capacity wants to touch the most basic life skill there is - reproduction and the countless forms it manifests itself in.

Today, there is a huge push to accept gay, lesbian, transgender, and whatever perspective the individual has of themselves. But how confusing that must be for a baby, it 6th grade to see a playmate, whom she may have grown up with, now identifying herself as transgender? Who is educating that baby in the understanding, at the basic level, and acceptance at the social level? Currently, no one. From what I understand, it's being handled in a hap-hazard manner at best.

The same can be extended to interracial situations. ******* comes home from school to she her mom having 'fun' with a Black (or any man for that matter!) man. How is that addressed?

******* today see a ton of stuff on the internet. How do they differentiate between what is pandered off to them as 'normal' sexual activities and fringe? If the differential is taught in school, they would be armed with the knowledge they need to make informed decisions.

Basically, what I'm advocating is the sex and relationship information should be regarded in the same manner as math, english and other topics are, without preconceived notions, in an intelligent manner.

It's known fact that it isn't being done in the home. And when it is, it's done with the prejudice of the parents being either intentionally or unintentionally being injected into the lesson. I know it was done when I was growing up, and I only wish that I had been armed with the facts before I made some REALLY stupid decisions! Thank goodness smart phones with cameras weren't around then!!!

I'll get off my soapbox now. I think this thread has some awesome thoughts and theories as to where relationships are headed. But until folks, starting with the *******, are provided with the proper information, it will take twice as long and hurt a lot of people unnecessarily before a general understanding is achieved. Probably not in my lifetime!

Donna, you’ve brought up a lot of interesting points. We’ve lived a certain way for 1,000 of years - man/woman married, children, family, rinse and repeat. Sex for women outside of marriage (although it was done) was punishable with death. We as a country are not ready for all the relationship combinations that will be upon us in the future. We are moving into “you decide what you want” kind of relationship but we are not educating anyone and giving them information to make educated decisions.

I’m a big believer in relationships - I’ll alwsys be. I think great relationships give you the best opportunity for well being, happiness, health, and prosperity...and also good sex. I’ll always push for people to get the most out of your relationships physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually but I know a lot of people think this is impossible and need others involved - it is what it is.

I’m glad we have people on here that are open minded to discuss and think about how we can fully maximize our living on this planet.

Our ******* don’t even know what they will be walking into in the future and we don’t have effective ways to prepare them. We are dropping them into the jungle and saying good luck.