Trump lost moving on with new year go Biden

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George W. Bush and the Real Story of the Great Recession
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The business cycle expansion that began in 2001 was given a substantial boost by a series of three tax cuts during the first three years of the administration of President George W. Bush. President Bush was ideologically committed to lower taxes and had pledged, if elected, to cut taxes.
 
The 2008 recession was the banks fault and bush gets credit for not reining them in they gave loans to anyone for over inflated prices
Nope, that was President Bush's fault because he is the one who appoints who he wants running the FED! All that ******* falls back on him just like when a company declares BANKRUPTCY, who's fault is it? The person who OWNS the company!
 
Have not decided yet though would be nice if somebody else could defeat Trump! If Sanders happens to become the Democrats nominee, *******, they might as well look forward to losing the House because nobody wants a Socialist as President! Smh, you would think the Dems would realize that! Though, would be nice to see Bloomberg and Trump duel it out!
 
And who was I suppose to vote for, This woman, I don't think so.

Smdh! Yet, "they" wonder why this country doesn't do well educationally, has a gun issue problem, a prisons problem, and an environmental problem! As they keep voting Republicans in office, things will CONTINUE going downhill!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realsp...does-better-under-the-democrats/#451c05426786
 
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I don't consider myself a democrat.....but I am anti-republican!
Interesting @subhub174014 but you contradict yourself here:

( Courtesy of @subhub174014 )

If through your logic you consider democrats better than republicans as illustrated
above, one would suspect you are all in with the democrats @subhub174014 ,
if not a card carrying democrat?

Moreover I consider you to be a clever man just as @BlkCumsHeavy and another
who prefers not for me to mention his handle and he is regular on this thread.

You guys really missed an opportunity, where the only hindrances are maybe your
lifestyle where your every step would be on the spotlight, maybe lack the backers
willing to subsidize your billion dollar expenditure at a shot at the White House,
and maybe stage fright?

Even if you lose whether if you choose to win the DNC Nomination, or as an
independant, any three of you could debate Trump on camera and attempt to
make a fool of him. If you lose you can push an agenda where and surviving
candidates for the office of POTUS can use to weaken Trump?

And even if the arena was just to illustrate which candidate was intellectually
superior to the other with general knowledge you could always suggest that the
arena of combat could be on the game show of Jeopardy where the subject
matter is randomized and any winnings are donated to a charity of the winner's
choice. The winner would be celebrated as the "smartest" candidate: perhaps one
worthy of the office of POTUS? And any losers would be publicly humiliated,
especially those who lost to President Trump, so they could not call Trump
stupid anymore because he bested them in a test of general knowledge.

:unsure:
 
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Interesting @subhub174014 but you contradict yourself here:

( Courtesy of @subhub174014 )

If through your logic you consider democrats better than republicans as illustrated
above, one would suspect you are all in with the democrats @subhub174014 ,
if not a card carrying democrat?

Moreover I consider you to be a clever man just as @BlkCumsHeavy and another
who prefers not for me to mention his handle and he is regular on this thread.

You guys really missed an opportunity, where the only hindrances are maybe your
lifestyle where your every step would be on the spotlight, maybe lack the backers
willing to subsidize your billion dollar expenditure at a shot at the White House,
and maybe stage fright?

Even if you lose whether if you choose to win the DNC Nomination, or as an
independant, any three of you could debate Trump on camera and attempt to
make a fool of him. If you lose you can push an agenda where and surviving
candidates for the office of POTUS can use to weaken Trump?

And even if the arena was just to illustrate which candidate was intellectually
superior to the other with general knowledge you could always suggest that the
arena of combat could be on the game show of Jeopardy where the subject
matter is randomized and any winnings are donated to a charity of the winner's
choice. The winner would be celebrated as the "smartest" candidate: perhaps one
worthy of the office of POTUS? And any losers would be publicly humiliated,
especially those who lost to President Trump, so they could not call Trump
stupid anymore because he bested them in a test of general knowledge.

:unsure:


that makes no sense at all....fantasy......I don't think the dems live up to all the promises they make...and usually fall short of expectations...….but like I have stated more than once.....the Dems do not pass laws or do things that are hurt the country.....the right has only one concern......putting as much money in the company till and the wealthy's pockets.....if middle America dies or goes bankrupt during that process....they really don't give a *******
 
that makes no sense at all....fantasy......I don't think the dems live up to all the promises they make...and usually fall short of expectations...….but like I have stated more than once.....the Dems do not pass laws or do things that are hurt the country.....the right has only one concern......putting as much money in the company till and the wealthy's pockets.....if middle America dies or goes bankrupt during that process....they really don't give a *******
WOW! o_O :oops: Is this the same @subhub174014 that said these things?

( Courtesy of @subhub174014 )
https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/go-trump.160047/page-473#post-2817344
https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/go-trump.160047/page-452#post-2805674
https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/go-trump.160047/page-416#post-2794479

Nice you are changing your opinion somewhat. :unsure:

If it took 3 years for you to say such things about the Democrats, then maybe in
another 3 years, you might say Trump was an okay President? And perhaps 3 years
beyond that you might confess Trump was a great president 🇺🇸 and leave me alone?

:ROFLMAO::whistle::eek:
 
Too bad Trump doesn't talk like a chair person at the Fed or any of the other central banks around the world. When they release statements they say a lot of things but they are intentionally rarely clear about what is being said often leaving you more confused after the speech than before it. If Trump conducted things this way he would be more of a traditional politician maybe, but he would not longer be Trump.
Trump cuts through the BS and gets right to the point. That’s the difference between a politician and a businessman.
 
WOW! o_O :oops: Is this the same @subhub174014 that said these things?

( Courtesy of @subhub174014 )
https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/go-trump.160047/page-473#post-2817344
https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/go-trump.160047/page-452#post-2805674
https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/go-trump.160047/page-416#post-2794479

Nice you are changing your opinion somewhat. :unsure:

If it took 3 years for you to say such things about the Democrats, then maybe in
another 3 years, you might say Trump was an okay President? And perhaps 3 years
beyond that you might confess Trump was a great president 🇺🇸 and leave me alone?

:ROFLMAO::whistle::eek:



wrong I have never changed my opinion....and have stated I don't know how many times I am anti republican....not sure what you are trying to stir....not interested nor am I biting on any of this...about the only concession if you want to call it that is I will not be surprised if trump gets re-elected......but again and have said this...it will be by hook or by crook!

I am about as anti-republican as you can get
 
trump using the electoral college......just for the reason it was created....racist...….and trump is that...….but that aside...he is working that to his benefit!....openly courting the college....and could care less about what the people want......race a big issue in the creation of the electoral college.....and a racist making good use of it


The Troubling Reason the Electoral College Exists

Updated: November 26, 2018 1:16 PM ET | Originally published: November 8, 2016

As Americans await the quadrennial running of the presidential obstacle course now known as the Electoral College, it’s worth remembering why we have this odd political contraption in the first place. After all, state governors in all 50 states are elected by popular vote; why not do the same for the governor of all states, a.k.a. the president? The quirks of the Electoral College system were exposed when Donald Trump secured the presidency with an Electoral College majority, even as Hillary Clinton took a narrow lead in the popular vote.

Some claim that the founding fathers chose the Electoral College over direct election in order to balance the interests of high-population and low-population states. But the deepest political divisions in America have always run not between big and small states, but between the north and the south, and between the coasts and the interior.

One Founding-era argument for the Electoral College stemmed from the fact that ordinary Americans across a vast continent would lack sufficient information to choose directly and intelligently among leading presidential candidates.

This objection rang true in the 1780s, when life was far more local. But the early emergence of national presidential parties rendered the objection obsolete by linking presidential candidates to slates of local candidates and national platforms, which explained to voters who stood for what.


Although the Philadelphia framers did not anticipate the rise of a system of national presidential parties, the 12th Amendment—proposed in 1803 and ratified a year later— was framed with such a party system in mind, in the aftermath of the election of 1800-01. In that election, two rudimentary presidential parties—Federalists led by John Adams and Republicans led by Thomas Jefferson—took shape and squared off. Jefferson ultimately prevailed, but only after an extended crisis triggered by several glitches in the Framers’ electoral machinery. In particular, Republican electors had no formal way to designate that they wanted Jefferson for president and Aaron Burr for vice president rather than vice versa. Some politicians then tried to exploit the resulting confusion.

Enter the 12th Amendment, which allowed each party to designate one candidate for president and a separate candidate for vice president. The amendment’s modifications of the electoral process transformed the Framers’ framework, enabling future presidential elections to be openly populist and partisan affairs featuring two competing tickets. It is the 12th Amendment’s Electoral College system, not the Philadelphia Framers’, that remains in place today. If the general citizenry’s lack of knowledge had been the real reason for the Electoral College, this problem was largely solved by 1800. So why wasn’t the entire Electoral College contraption scrapped at that point?


Standard civics-class accounts of the Electoral College rarely mention the real demon dooming direct national election in 1787 and 1803: slavery.

At the Philadelphia convention, the visionary Pennsylvanian James Wilson proposed direct national election of the president. But the savvy Virginian James Madison responded that such a system would prove unacceptable to the South: “The right of suffrage was much more diffusive [i.e., extensive] in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of Negroes.” In other words, in a direct election system, the North would outnumber the South, whose many slaves (more than half a million in all) of course could not vote. But the Electoral College—a prototype of which Madison proposed in this same speech—instead let each southern state count its slaves, albeit with a two-fifths discount, in computing its share of the overall count.

Virginia emerged as the big winner—the California of the Founding era—with 12 out of a total of 91 electoral votes allocated by the Philadelphia Constitution, more than a quarter of the 46 needed to win an election in the first round. After the 1800 census, Wilson’s free state of Pennsylvania had 10% more free persons than Virginia, but got 20% fewer electoral votes. Perversely, the more slaves Virginia (or any other slave state) bought or bred, the more electoral votes it would receive. Were a slave state to free any blacks who then moved North, the state could actually lose electoral votes.


If the system’s pro-slavery tilt was not overwhelmingly obvious when the Constitution was ratified, it quickly became so. For 32 of the Constitution’s first 36 years, a white slaveholding Virginian occupied the presidency.


Southerner Thomas Jefferson, for example, won the election of 1800-01 against Northerner John Adams in a race where the slavery-skew of the electoral college was the decisive margin of victory: without the extra electoral college votes generated by slavery, the mostly southern states that supported Jefferson would not have sufficed to give him a majority. As pointed observers remarked at the time, Thomas Jefferson metaphorically rode into the executive mansion on the backs of slaves.


The 1796 contest between Adams and Jefferson had featured an even sharper division between northern states and southern states. Thus, at the time the Twelfth Amendment tinkered with the Electoral College system rather than tossing it, the system’s pro-slavery bias was hardly a secret. Indeed, in the floor debate over the amendment in late 1803, Massachusetts Congressman Samuel Thatcher complained that “The representation of slaves adds thirteen members to this House in the present Congress, and eighteen Electors of President and Vice President at the next election.” But Thatcher’s complaint went unredressed. Once again, the North caved to the South by refusing to insist on direct national election.



In light of this more complete (if less flattering) account of the electoral college in the late 18th and early 19th century, Americans should ask themselves whether we want to maintain this odd—dare I say peculiar?—institution in the 21st century.


 
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