Any young men never tried but already obsessed by the idea?

I am trying to gain a better understanding of the development of the cuckold urge, how it develops, how it evolves, and if a man ever truly escapes it. Happy to chat via PM if that's more comfortable, but please, I'm interested in the perspective of younger (20s 30s) men who are new to these urges.
 
I am trying to gain a better understanding of the development of the cuckold urge, how it develops, how it evolves, and if a man ever truly escapes it. Happy to chat via PM if that's more comfortable, but please, I'm interested in the perspective of younger (20s 30s) men who are new to these urges.
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Thank you. If I get enough interesting replies to this thread or via p.m., I will write something up. I really enjoyed the interview article for @MonicaV. And, as you might know, I'm going through things in my personal life that have made me want to understand a man's perspective on this.

I'm glad you saw the interview as a way to put your thoughts in order. I'm looking forward to read your writtings.
 
I must say, for me, the development of the "cuckold urge" was quite a surprise. I've always thought of myself as a hot blooded, heterosexual man. Professionally, I'm extremely dominant and aggressive. When my ex girlfriend slept with a black man though, something inside me changed. A deep, primal urge to submit to black men emerged (as if from nowhere). The thought of eating their cum from her pussy (a strong symbol of being sexually submissive) consumed me. The idea of black cock... thick, long, throbbing... masculine.. ... hmmm... lets just say that now I would get on my knees and suck a black cock and beg him to cum in my mouth and make me his bitch...
 
I've just had an incredibly interesting chat with @advice4newbies (AKA, Mistress Em). Just reading about a recent experience that she has with a black man made me so horny that I could hardly breath. My cock was rock hard, pulsating, aching to cum. I dared not touch it because I knew that even the softest brush of my fingertips would make me cum. Even so, reading about her account made me more and more desperate. Eventually my pelvis was thrust uncontrollably and I came (without touching my cock). The intensity of it all was just incredible. Absolutely breathtaking.
 
Your interview was extremely hot, I loved how cerebral it was. I just sent a message to talk about 'the cuckold urge' and I focused too much on physicality. So much of this urge is cultural and about gender and racial expectations, and it's really hot to discuss that.
 
I must say, for me, the development of the "cuckold urge" was quite a surprise. I've always thought of myself as a hot blooded, heterosexual man. Professionally, I'm extremely dominant and aggressive. When my ex girlfriend slept with a black man though, something inside me changed. A deep, primal urge to submit to black men emerged (as if from nowhere). The thought of eating their cum from her pussy (a strong symbol of being sexually submissive) consumed me. The idea of black cock... thick, long, throbbing... masculine.. ... hmmm... lets just say that now I would get on my knees and suck a black cock and beg him to cum in my mouth and make me his bitch...
Same for me.
 
Same for me.
I've now chatted with a dozen men who, almost overnight, went from a dominant, possessive and strictly heterosexual mate, to obsessed with the idea of having their mate fucked by a more dominant black man, and even considered servicing the black man themselves. Often this was triggered by an act of cheating or seeing one's ex with a more dominant man after a breakup.

What amazes me is the near-instantaneous speed of the shift. It suggests to me that something in the primitive part of a man's brain is wired to recognize and reinforce rank. Thus when a more superior man takes away another man's mate, often humiliating him in the process, a man confronts a decision: fight or submit.

The decision is not necessarily a conscious one. For both pragmatic and instinctive reasons, the pull toward submission can be powerful and consuming. Submission keeps the peace within a community, it avoids the danger of injury or humiliation for a man, and it helps clarify the social hierarchy among men. Perhaps a "submission instinct" is prorgrammed into men, in recognition of these benefits.

This still doesnt really explain why it is such an intense turn on for many men to offer their wives and girlfriends up to hung black bulls for the talking. But I believe there is some connection to the "submission instinct" in men. Maybe once a man is bested by another his submission programming kicks in and it rules his life thereafter.
 
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I've now chatted with a dozen men who, almost overnight, went from a dominant, possessive and strictly heterosexual mate, to obsessed with the idea of having their mate fucked by a more dominant black man, and even considered servicing the black man themselves. Often this was triggered by an act of cheating or seeing one's ex with a more dominant man after a breakup.

What amazes me is the near-instantaneous speed of the shift. It suggests to me that something in the primitive part of a man's brain is wired to recognize and reinforce rank. Thus when a more superior man takes away another man's mate, often humiliating him in the process, a man confronts a decision: fight or submit.

The decision is not necessarily a conscious one. For both pragmatic and instinctive reasons, the pull toward submission can be powerful and consuming. Submission keeps the peace within a community, it avoids the danger of injury or humiliation for a man, and it helps clarify the social hierarchy among men. Perhaps a "submission instinct" is prorgrammed into men, in recognition of these benefits.

This still doesnt really explain why it is such an intense turn on for many men to offer their wives and girlfriends up to hung black bulls for the talking. But I believe there is some connection to the "submission instinct" in men. Maybe once a man is bested by another his submission programming kicks in and it rules his life thereafter.

I think that you've provided an excellent summary of (what I believe to be) the anthropological roots of the cuckold urge. In my case, I was surprise by just how powerful the transition was. I was (and am) consumed by a deep ache to submit and serve black men. Masturbating to the thought of black men fucking a women that I was sexually attracted to started inspiring incredibly intense orgasms. I think that you're right about the "submission programming" kicking in. For the most part, for it to work (given that its so counter intuitive), it has to be powerful... the orgasms MUST be intense... the fantasy must be all consuming. It has to be all or nothing because the alternative is a horrible mess of cognative disanance and self loathing.
 
What amazes me is the near-instantaneous speed of the shift. It suggests to me that something in the primitive part of a man's brain is wired to recognize and reinforce rank. Thus when a more superior man takes away another man's mate, often humiliating him in the process, a man confronts a decision: fight or submit.

The decision is not necessarily a conscious one. For both pragmatic and instinctive reasons, the pull toward submission can be powerful and consuming. Submission keeps the peace within a community, it avoids the danger of injury or humiliation for a man, and it helps clarify the social hierarchy among men. Perhaps a "submission instinct" is prorgrammed into men, in recognition of these benefits..

"According to Hegel, the relationship between self and otherness is the fundamental defining characteristic of human awareness and activity, being rooted as it is in the emotion of desire for objects as well as in the estrangement from those objects, which is part of the primordial human experience of the world. The otherness that consciousness experiences as a barrier to its goal is the external reality of the natural and social world, which prevents individual consciousness from becoming free and independent. However, that otherness cannot be abolished or destroyed, without destroying oneself, and so ideally there must be reconciliation between self and other such that consciousness can "universalize" itself through the other. In the relation of dominance and subservience between two consciousnesses, say lord and bondsman, the basic problem for consciousness is the overcoming of its otherness, or put positively, the achieving of integration with itself. The relation between lord and bondsman leads to a sort of provisional, incomplete resolution of the struggle for recognition between distinct consciousnesses."

https://www.iep.utm.edu/hegelsoc/#H4

"One of the roots of our misunderstanding of the psychology of the battlefield lies in the misapplication of the fight-or-flight model to the stresses of the battlefield. This model holds that in the face of danger a series of physiological and psychological processes prepare and support the endangered creature for either fighting or fleeing. The fight-or-flight dichotomy is the appropriate set of choices for any creature faced with danger other than that which comes from its own species. When we examine the responses of creatures confronted with aggression from their own species, the set of options expands to include posturing and submission. This application of ******* kingdom intraspecies response patterns (that is, fight, flee, posture, and submit) to human warfare is, to the best of my knowledge, entirely new.
The first decision point in an intraspecies conflict usually involves deciding between fleeing or posturing. A threatened baboon or rooster who elects to stand its ground does not respond to aggression from one of his own kind by leaping instantly to the enemy's throat. Instead, both creatures instinctively go through a series of posturing actions that, while intimidating, are almost always harmless. These actions are designed to convince an opponent, through both sight and sound, that the posturer is a dangerous and frightening adversary.
When the posturer has failed to dissuade an intraspecies opponent, the options then become fight, flight, or submission. When the fight option is utilized, it is almost never to the death. Konrad Lorenz pointed out that piranhas and rattlesnakes will bite anything. and everything, but among themselves piranhas fight with raps of their tails, and rattlesnakes wrestle. Somewhere during the course of such highly constrained and nonlethal fights, one of these intraspecies opponents will usually become daunted by the ferocity and prowess of its opponent, and its only options become submission or flight. Submission is a surprisingly common response, usually taking the form of fawning and exposing some vulnerable portion of the anatomy to the victor, in the instinctive knowledge that the opponent will not ******* or further harm one of its own kind once it has surrendered. The posturing, mock battle, and submission process is vital to the survival of the species. It prevents needless deaths and ensures that a young male will live through early confrontations when his opponents are bigger and better prepared. Having been outpostured by his opponent, he can then submit and live to mate, passing on his genes in later years."

Dave Grossman. On killing.

https://archive.org/stream/On_Killing/On_Killing_djvu.txt
 
My 2 cents: I believe this is a tiny bit more complex. I see the competition thrill and the rush of deciding to battle or to surrender are strong in all men and that it can translate to the bedroom. It certainly has been the case in matriarchal societies and among other species. But I also think we miss to perceive another far less noble motive in the cuckold's intention. Maybe that's what I think of my husband and may not apply to everyone. Perhaps, you should ask what other things do cuckolds normally ask their wife to do in bed. IMO, in giving her wife away and seeing her surrendering to other men, the cuckold not only feels a momentum of power, as short as it may be, but he also accomplishes a desire for the wife's denigration, as it happens with facials, throat sex, etc. 'Denigration' is also a very accurate word, meaning 'forsing to get black'. Maybe I'm a bit off with my perceptions, but this is ultimately what led me to question my own husband's drive during my IR encounters. I know, that doesn't mean he would love me less. But when a couple try different things during their marriage, sex instincts could diverge radically from what we ordinarily feel and understand as 'spousal love'.
 
I've now chatted with a dozen men who, almost overnight, went from a dominant, possessive and strictly heterosexual mate, to obsessed with the idea of having their mate fucked by a more dominant black man, and even considered servicing the black man themselves. Often this was triggered by an act of cheating or seeing one's ex with a more dominant man after a breakup.

What amazes me is the near-instantaneous speed of the shift. It suggests to me that something in the primitive part of a man's brain is wired to recognize and reinforce rank. Thus when a more superior man takes away another man's mate, often humiliating him in the process, a man confronts a decision: fight or submit.

The decision is not necessarily a conscious one. For both pragmatic and instinctive reasons, the pull toward submission can be powerful and consuming. Submission keeps the peace within a community, it avoids the danger of injury or humiliation for a man, and it helps clarify the social hierarchy among men. Perhaps a "submission instinct" is prorgrammed into men, in recognition of these benefits.

This still doesnt really explain why it is such an intense turn on for many men to offer their wives and girlfriends up to hung black bulls for the talking. But I believe there is some connection to the "submission instinct" in men. Maybe once a man is bested by another his submission programming kicks in and it rules his life thereafter.
I like your postings and find them very interesting and like to read more and like to read your whole story
I've now chatted with a dozen men who, almost overnight, went from a dominant, possessive and strictly heterosexual mate, to obsessed with the idea of having their mate fucked by a more dominant black man, and even considered servicing the black man themselves. Often this was triggered by an act of cheating or seeing one's ex with a more dominant man after a breakup.

What amazes me is the near-instantaneous speed of the shift. It suggests to me that something in the primitive part of a man's brain is wired to recognize and reinforce rank. Thus when a more superior man takes away another man's mate, often humiliating him in the process, a man confronts a decision: fight or submit.

The decision is not necessarily a conscious one. For both pragmatic and instinctive reasons, the pull toward submission can be powerful and consuming. Submission keeps the peace within a community, it avoids the danger of injury or humiliation for a man, and it helps clarify the social hierarchy among men. Perhaps a "submission instinct" is prorgrammed into men, in recognition of these benefits.

This still doesnt really explain why it is such an intense turn on for many men to offer their wives and girlfriends up to hung black bulls for the talking. But I believe there is some connection to the "submission instinct" in men. Maybe once a man is bested by another his submission programming kicks in and it rules his life thereafter.

I like all your postings and find them very interesting. I would be interested to read your complete story. What do you think what the wives roll in all this and what do you think their psyche and natural instinct is allowing or wanting to cuckold their spouse with a more endowed aggressive male even though they may know this dominant male will not be monogamous to them like their husband's would and would not make good fathers.
 
I like your postings and find them very interesting and like to read more and like to read your whole story
I like all your postings and find them very interesting. I would be interested to read your complete story. What do you think what the wives roll in all this and what do you think their psyche and natural instinct is allowing or wanting to cuckold their spouse with a more endowed aggressive male even though they may know this dominant male will not be monogamous to them like their husband's would and would not make good fathers.

My interview with @MonicaV has answers to your questions.
You can find it here.
 
My 2 cents: I believe this is a tiny bit more complex. I see the competition thrill and the rush of deciding to battle or to surrender are strong in all men and that it can translate to the bedroom. It certainly has been the case in matriarchal societies and among other species. But I also think we miss to perceive another far less noble motive in the cuckold's intention. Maybe that's what I think of my husband and may not apply to everyone. Perhaps, you should ask what other things do cuckolds normally ask their wife to do in bed. IMO, in giving her wife away and seeing her surrendering to other men, the cuckold not only feels a momentum of power, as short as it may be, but he also accomplishes a desire for the wife's denigration, as it happens with facials, throat sex, etc. 'Denigration' is also a very accurate word, meaning 'forsing to get black'. Maybe I'm a bit off with my perceptions, but this is ultimately what led me to question my own husband's drive during my IR encounters. I know, that doesn't mean he would love me less. But when a couple try different things during their marriage, sex instincts could diverge radically from what we ordinarily feel and understand as 'spousal love'.

The cuckold arousal is based on the patriarchal idea that if your wife have sex with others she is is disrespecting and humiliating you socially, but at the same time it is exciting, and this emotional whirlwind can be addictive. However, couples who have grew up in liberal environments haven't internalized these values and do not see it so transgressive. People who have grown up in environments with racial diversity and sexual freedom also do not see interracial sex as such an exciting taboo.
 
A very sexy hypothesis about submission...."rules his life thereafter" wooow.

A huge part of it to me is the power of the woman. So much so, it's such a turn-on just reading women speculating about little white guys' motivations like we're not even here. Sex is often about power transference. I'd wager that many cucks have jobs or positions where they have to exercise power or control, and the cuckolding dynamic provides a release from that. I think the power of a woman to choose an entire class of sex partners (which completely and absolutely excludes me) is far greater than the power more classical dommes wield through simple pain. It's also far more denigrating and humiliating to serve a woman who is explicitly not all "yours" and where your needs will always come second or last in line. As far as the composition of that exclusionary class (black men), clearly the taboo and racial dynamics influence all participants; I'm extremely attracted to black women and have some pretty naughty fantasies as well.

LOLing at myself because I want to make apologies for posting again. I'm well-aware of the power dynamic here and I accept I'm at the bottom. Delete or ignore this comment as is appropriate.
 
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