A note to the "Bulls" and Black men on this site

I usually expect to have pics offered, I won't ask. If a single male doesn't have them ready for us then we know hes not serious. As far as the number of contacts before a meeting, you have to understand, there are about 300 to 400 emails we get per month to go through, so when we contact back, be thankful. Many couples such as ourselves are looking for a certain situation and many will say whatever it takes to get in the first time just so they get laid and then we find out thats not what they really want and they don't care because they already got laid. So me personally, I establish strong, heavy communication and then add her in to the mix before we meet. We don't just fuck everyone just to see if it works.
 
Ok I've been on this site for some time now and I continue to see something that perplexes me a bit. We all know that there are a lot of husbands here without their wives knowledge and they will have a profile with either both of their pics or their wife's pic. I wonder how many of you realize that even if it is a genuine couple, the majority of the time it is the husband who handles most of the online accounts. Yet I continue to see guy after guy approaching couples as if they are talking to the wife. You do realize that if it is in fact the husband you are talking to then he will usually just play along and what you wind up doing is having a conversation with him pretending to be her all because you made that assumption. I follow a very simple rule, whenever I see a couple's profile, I ALWAYS assume that I am talking to the husband. Trust me, if you take this route and it does turn out to be the wife you are talking to, she WILL correct you. However, if you assume that every profile with a woman's pic is actually the woman you are talking to then you will just continue to show your inexperience and the fact that you are way too eager. Just a PSA from your friendly neighborhood Bull.
I have the same approach bro
 
Never understood why the hubby has to do the first conversation when it's only online at that point ? I understand when the meet and greet happens he has to be there for safety.
 
Never understood why the hubby has to do the first conversation when it's only online at that point ? I understand when the meet and greet happens he has to be there for safety.

I've found a lot of wives just don't want to be bothered with the vetting process. The husbands just present them with options and they pick who they want to play with.
 
What`s preferable, i wonder:

(A) A single man posing as a couple,
(B) A white husband posing as his wife, or
(C) A married Black man posing as a single "bull"?

Please, tell me which of these three you think is most appropriate.
T.Y.
There are different degrees to all of these. The crust of the question is that we can be whoever we want to be here in WONDERLAND. Personally for me it's preferable that we start with trust as I can speak to any one of the 3(A, B C) that you mentioned. A.) I would ask A single man posing as a couple: what are you truly interested in finding or talking about? B.) A white husband posing as his wife: have you communicated your desire to have your wife be with a Black Man or is this just your fantasy or desire?C.)A married Black Man posing as a BULL: you do know that you can be married on here and still be successful meeting couples that want a Bull. Some prefer married men because they don't have to worry about needy men.

The biggest issue is the time wasted and getting to your true intent for being on the site. Create or start a chat for that and watch what happens. Just my 2 cents.

TJ
 
Pic hunters will usually ask to see pics of your dick where real couples will ask for a face or G rated shot of you mainly to identify you when you meet.

Mostly true. yet there are some females/couples who want a full naked picture at the get go.

My two cents. I will usually ask who I'm talking with at the start to understand how to approach the situation. If they are real with an actual interest the person will identify themselves truthfully as the hubby or wife.

We find that if a guy makes the contact with a couple( say us for example) then he doesn't get to say how the contact goes, if the couple have a system or way they do things. he can suggest or say as a preference but ultimately the couple has the say. Yes identifying who is real and who isn't is important. But the couple chose the speed and method of the contact until both parties agree on whats next. (Using our method as an example).

Remember getting the best out of the contact means making the female/couple comfortable with you. If she's/they are not comfortable, then the contact isn't going anywhere. After all, you are more than just a cock right? So why shouldn't the couple be afforded the same respect and vice versa?

If you go beyond three to five contacts it means either the wife isn't sure or ready or this person is bullshitting and stringing you along for pics. Just my take on it.

Not always true. Though we can see where you're coming from, Some like ourselves have a vetting system that takes longer than three to five contacts. Why? Because we as a couple want to be sure of A. They are who they say they are. B. That both parties are compatible. C. That both parties are comfortable in what is arranged. D. That both parties can communicate and socialise outside of the bedroom. We stick to those, we also will how say we video chat, use a chat messenger. Its all about being secure , safe and staying that way.

There are over a thousand 'guys' to every couple wanting to meet someone. choosing the right guy, or couple for you guys is important for not only your health and safety. But the theirs too.

Establishing the ground rules and if the person is genuine means treating them with respect and more than just a cock if its all to be a success.

Now that all said, from both parties there has to be a willingness to 'do the right thing'. No stringing someone a long, no falsehoods,no lies. If your the male of the couple making the arrangements then be up front. (though a lot of guys then still make the claim that the couple is fake, all because the couple want the male to arrange things until the female is happy to join in.) It happens and for understandable reasons.

Guys have to remember when contacting someone, i.e couples. Is that 99% of us have had the whole range or contacts. Starting at the respectful right down to the I want you as a cuck couple, I want you as a whore type, and hey bitch want this cock. As you guys have had the range of 'female fakes'.

Our best advice is Take your time. Establish a relationship with who ever contacted you. Follow any grounds rules you/they have when in contact. Have and give respect, and remember, even if you do all of this and more, you still may get caught out. Its just how life works.

Sorry if I rambled on LOL.
 
@DaphneD: You said a whole lot of meaningful things. One thing i`d like to add though, that maybe helps a little bit for a better understanding...

Of course everyone in this lifestyle, like anywhere else, wants to be respected and a potential "bull" to be treated "on eye-level" with any couple he gets in contact with. What many fail to understand is that in many cases it will still be the couple that makes important decisions first and the act of having to "submit" to the couple`s ground rules may seem contradicting the ideal of being an equal player. The truth is that this need not be the case. Like Daphne had stated too lot of a couple`s behaviors are governed by their need for safety and security!

As a single "bull" the only thing you have to lose is time and the chance of getting involved with that couple. But for a couple this lifestyle is dancing on more or less thin ice. In the absolute worst case, if things go severely wrong, they may wreck their marriage, lose their home, family, friends and jobs!

Especially couples who play secretly, which seem to be a vast majority, have to be cautious of who they get involved with. The potential "bull" - a stranger at the start - needs to be verified as trustworthy enough to keep their secret. And that only via conversation - not an easy task at all with the need to tread warily. So please, guys, the next time when you feel a couple is wasting your time, their many questions start to annoy you or you think they are too demanding, then think of that. ;)
 
@DaphneD: You said a whole lot of meaningful things. One thing i`d like to add though, that maybe helps a little bit for a better understanding...

Of course everyone in this lifestyle, like anywhere else, wants to be respected and a potential "bull" to be treated "on eye-level" with any couple he gets in contact with. What many fail to understand is that in many cases it will still be the couple that makes important decisions first and the act of having to "submit" to the couple`s ground rules may seem contradicting the ideal of being an equal player. The truth is that this need not be the case. Like Daphne had stated too lot of a couple`s behaviors are governed by their need for safety and security!

As a single "bull" the only thing you have to lose is time and the chance of getting involved with that couple. But for a couple this lifestyle is dancing on more or less thin ice. In the absolute worst case, if things go severely wrong, they may wreck their marriage, lose their home, family, friends and jobs!

Especially couples who play secretly, which seem to be a vast majority, have to be cautious of who they get involved with. The potential "bull" - a stranger at the start - needs to be verified as trustworthy enough to keep their secret. And that only via conversation - not an easy task at all with the need to tread warily. So please, guys, the next time when you feel a couple is wasting your time, their many questions start to annoy you or you think they are too demanding, then think of that. ;)
That is understandable from a couples stand point but I believe the assumption may be that the BULL doesn't have anything to lose regarding the right to discretion. I have an Organization of over 200 Men of Color who come from a variety of respected professions and who lives can be impacted in some of the same ways a couples life could be changed. For some of us Men of Color this is just as much a secret lifestyle that we don't share with family, friends or colleagues.

All of us can make demands that may seem annoying but there has to be a certain level of trust. As a single Male being invited to meet a couple at a hotel or some other prearranged establishment a certain level of trust is involved: I trust that they look like their pictures, I trust that they are who they say they are,I trust that it isn't someone trying to harm me,or I trust that it's not a setup.

There are many picture collectors and a great deal of these profiles want to see pics of Men of Color's Cocks. I respect everyone and their rationale for what their demands are regarding meeting but if it's not in line with mine I kindly decline. I may be rambling but everyone has something to lose just as everyone has something to gain. My approach is developing friendships that can lead to benefits. The benefits of the friendship isn't always sexual.

TJ
 
That is understandable from a couples stand point but I believe the assumption may be that the BULL doesn't have anything to lose regarding the right to discretion. I have an Organization of over 200 Men of Color who come from a variety of respected professions and who lives can be impacted in some of the same ways a couples life could be changed. For some of us Men of Color this is just as much a secret lifestyle that we don't share with family, friends or colleagues.

All of us can make demands that may seem annoying but there has to be a certain level of trust. As a single Male being invited to meet a couple at a hotel or some other prearranged establishment a certain level of trust is involved: I trust that they look like their pictures, I trust that they are who they say they are,I trust that it isn't someone trying to harm me,or I trust that it's not a setup.

There are many picture collectors and a great deal of these profiles want to see pics of Men of Color's Cocks. I respect everyone and their rationale for what their demands are regarding meeting but if it's not in line with mine I kindly decline. I may be rambling but everyone has something to lose just as everyone has something to gain. My approach is developing friendships that can lead to benefits. The benefits of the friendship isn't always sexual.

TJ

Well said.
 
The pic collector pulled a fast one on me about two days ago. The Classic my gf has never seen a BBC. Here is a pic of her she wants to see one can you send me a pic. Wow. Grab any pic off any porn site. Never seen a Bbc. BS.
 
Ok I've been on this site for some time now and I continue to see something that perplexes me a bit. We all know that there are a lot of husbands here without their wives knowledge and they will have a profile with either both of their pics or their wife's pic. I wonder how many of you realize that even if it is a genuine couple, the majority of the time it is the husband who handles most of the online accounts. Yet I continue to see guy after guy approaching couples as if they are talking to the wife. You do realize that if it is in fact the husband you are talking to then he will usually just play along and what you wind up doing is having a conversation with him pretending to be her all because you made that assumption. I follow a very simple rule, whenever I see a couple's profile, I ALWAYS assume that I am talking to the husband. Trust me, if you take this route and it does turn out to be the wife you are talking to, she WILL correct you. However, if you assume that every profile with a woman's pic is actually the woman you are talking to then you will just continue to show your inexperience and the fact that you are way too eager. Just a PSA from your friendly neighborhood Bull.
Omg. Is this why I get messages from guys that say something like " the wife is beautiful ". Lol
 
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