Covid-19 FAQS (with my opinion at the very end)

[Andrea38]

Can you provide a link to the cdc article saying what you quoted. Since I have a Masters in athletic training and a minor in pathology I know you're wrong, but I'm willing to stand corrected if you can provide evidence from the cdc.

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Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a virus (more specifically, a coronavirus) identified as the cause of an outbreak of respiratory illness first detected in Wuhan, China.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Blade4u22]

It took about 3 seconds

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a virus (more specifically, a coronavirus) identified as the cause of an outbreak of respiratory illness first detected in Wuhan, China.

www.cdc.gov

This article never calls them the same thing.
All its saying is that to learn more about covid-19 they are studying SARS since they are in the same family of coronavirus. In the same way that oranges and tangerines are both citrus fruits but not the same fruit

 

[Andrea38]

This article never calls them the same thing.
All its saying is that to learn more about covid-19 they are studying SARS since they are in the same family of coronavirus. In the same way that oranges and tangerines are both citrus fruits but not the same fruit

Well SARS-CoV-2 is the virus. Cov-19 is the disease it causes. SARS is a general condition of severe acute respiratory syndrome. I don't know the virus that 15 years ago caused SARS to be a well known name. But both viruses are of the corona type or "citrus fruit" as you say. I am not sure we have a disagreement here. I thought your problem with Daphne's post had to do with naming.

 

[Deleted125623]

Can you provide a link to the cdc article saying what you quoted. Since I have a Masters in athletic training and a minor in pathology I know you're wrong, but I'm willing to stand corrected if you can provide evidence from the cdc.

And I know your wrong as a matter of fact.

I NEVER post anything that isn't proven fact. Its all researched and checked. Just like everything in my article is a proven fact and true and has been verified by media sources, The Tainwan Gov, the Chinese themselves and the US-UK .... So thumbing it down doesn't take away that everything in it is a proven fact.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/grows-virus-cell-culture.html.

Human Coronavirus Types | CDC

CDC Human Coronavirus Types: Information about the six types of coronaviruses including MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV.

www.cdc.gov

Naming the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and the virus that causes it

An explanation of the official names for the corona virus disease (COVID-2019) and the virus that causes it.

www.who.int

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And after you follow the many trails you get to.
https://www.cleanlink.com/news/article/SARS-CoV-2-and-COVID-19-Whats-The-Difference--25264

Just like I did.

Here is some further links for you showing that SARS-covid2 is Covid19

BEI Resources Repository

The BEI Resources Repository is a central repository that supplies organisms and reagents to the broad community of microbiology and infectious diseases researchers. Materials are available through an online catalog.There is no charge for research materials, but domestic investigators will be...

www.niaid.nih.gov

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-17/coronavirus-glossary.. latimes.

 

[Mr&Ms TopCat]

As the staff of this website, I feel it's my duty to help my members stay staff during these troubling days ahead of I can.

I'll start off by saying thank you to all the health care professionals and people risking exposure during this pandemic who may be reading this. I know you guys have families and love ones too but unfortunately have to risk your health and your loved ones health for the greater good. You're greatly appreciated and you're sacrifices will never be forgotten. Thank you.

Everyone should be prepared for things to be out of the norm for at least 6 months and we'd be lucky if things go back to normal by the end of the year.This first comment will be just facts in case in case no one is interested in my opinion. I'll start by admittedly saying I wouldn't call myself an expert in this field by any means so what I say could very well be wrong. But l am quite knowledgeable in the health related field and have studied the spread of pathogens for years in college and if my knowledge can help anyone I want to share it. Misinformation is this scenario will be incredibly deadly so while many people might know what I write or even ignore what I write but if it helps just one person and their family then mission accomplished.

These are the facts of COVID-19
I'll start off simply with what is Covid-19 and how is it spread?

Covid-19 (short for COronVIrus Disease 2019) is an incredibly infectious strain of Coronavirus that can result in death due to respiratory failure. Generally thought to be spread from person-to-person through respiratory droplets. Currently there is no evidence to support transmission of COVID-19 associated with food.
The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

Why should I be worried about, how is it different from SARS and why should I be more than SARS or even the flu(H1N1)?

While COVID-19 and SARS but share the family of coronavirus COVID-19 is much more contagious and has killed more people even though SARS is technically deadlier. SARS has obvious symptoms of infection which meant it was easier to detect earlier on even though it was more likely to ******* you once you had it. COVID-19 has the unfortunate issue of infecting the host without showing any symptoms which makes it much easier for an infected person to pass it to others without even knowing they have it. Both have no vaccine and without a vaccine once you have it either your body recovers or you eventually die. Older people are more likely to suffer from weaker immune system and weaker lungs which is why it kills people over 60 at a higher rate, But younger people are still very much capable of dying due to COVID-19.

How can I protect myself from COVID-19?

As said previously, there is currently no vaccine to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) so the best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus.

• Clean your hands often
• Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds especially after you have been in a public place, or after blowing your nose, coughing, or sneezing.
• If soap and water are not readily available, use a hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol. Cover all surfaces of your hands and rub them together until they feel dry.
• Avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth with unwashed hands.

This next part is my opinion which I believe is still worth your time to read but that's your choice.
What does the end game look like? Where does end?

COVID-19 is so contagious, that we can't risk having one infected person living in what we used to remember was a normal society. There's no way one day, all movie theaters, restaurants, malls, etc are just going to open with the chance that one person may have it or else we're right back to where we all started. The end game has to be the vaccine. The problem is its not comming before 1 year (according to scientists) , and its not even guarented its gonna work (it might develop more strains like the flu does).

Because of that, I believe people should be prepared for things to be like this for a while. According to research there is realistically the amount of people infected is 4x the amount of confirmable cases and will double every 6 days. As I currently write this (at 03/21/2020 05:12), there are 275,469 worldwide cases [19,624 cases in the United States] so we're looking at realistically 1,101,876 [60,000] people infected and that number will jump to around 2 million [120,000] some time next week. That doesn't just go away! It can't! We haven't experienced something of this magnitude since the Spanish flu. This is just the beginning and real panic will set in once people start dying here at a quick rate. Before that happens be reasonable, but buy things that you may need to sustain yourself and your family. Long lasting food like pasta and rice, canned goods, things that can be frozen for long periods of time will be good to have once the seconds wave of panic begins. Most importantly though remember to wash your hands. Keep them clean with soap. No amount of hand sanitizer can replace that. If your running out of disinfectant then head to the liquorstore and buy some everclear and use it conservatively. It's 95% alcohol and will get the job done.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and I wish for everyone out there to stay safe and healthy.

Thank you again to all the Healthcare workers.

I just want to give you a shout out for taking the time to create this thread and for all of the important information you have provided to all of us,
Ms. TopCat

 

[malizia2000]

In my opinion you get to the same point, COVID19 is a disease like so many others, with a risk of death under 2% like many others. The difference is that this disease causes panic and fear will once again be the winners of the large economic groups and the most damaged are the poor and those who try to do business on their own.

The difference is that is more dangerous. Your president consider a success less than 100.000 deaths. If that is a normal influenza, I’m coming from mars.

 

[Cornudochile]

The difference is that is more dangerous. Your president consider a success less than 100.000 deaths. If that is a normal influenza, I’m coming from mars.

The point is not how dangerous the pandemic is, the point is how it is managed for the benefit of large corporations. And I'm not a North American. I'm Chilean

In my opinion and with respect for who is suffering from this disease, this Pandemic is nothing more than mass management.
COVID-19 will not cause more deaths than influenza caused in 2019 (650,000 deaths).
A new virus that causes deaths is the favorite subject of the press and if it comes from China it is more fearsome and suspicious.
Like influenza, people will die with this plague.
But this time the great owners of the money will benefit greatly, the panic of the people is their best reward. in a few months this will end, there will be thousands of unemployed, there will be thousands of small businesses in bankruptcy, there will be thousands of mortgages pending payment.
Before answering that I am an ignorant Republican, think about it for a moment.
In 2019 650,000 people died of influenza without TV cameras

 

[malizia2000]

The point is not how dangerous the pandemic is, the point is how it is managed for the benefit of large corporations. And I'm not a North American. I'm Chilean

In my opinion and with respect for who is suffering from this disease, this Pandemic is nothing more than mass management.
COVID-19 will not cause more deaths than influenza caused in 2019 (650,000 deaths).
A new virus that causes deaths is the favorite subject of the press and if it comes from China it is more fearsome and suspicious.
Like influenza, people will die with this plague.
But this time the great owners of the money will benefit greatly, the panic of the people is their best reward. in a few months this will end, there will be thousands of unemployed, there will be thousands of small businesses in bankruptcy, there will be thousands of mortgages pending payment.
Before answering that I am an ignorant Republican, think about it for a moment.
In 2019 650,000 people died of influenza without TV cameras

I’m Italian and I’m a nurse. I’ve never seen in my country, one of the most advanced for health, 11000 people die in tre weeks for influenza. I’ve seen with my eyes what effects can have on people and it’s not a normal flue. Maybe in chile is not pandemic yet and hope it will never be, but covid 19 is a real threat and be safe. A lot of people is in war against that virus because it’s not a normal flue.

 

[Blade4u22]

And I know your wrong as a matter of fact.

I NEVER post anything that isn't proven fact. Its all researched and checked. Just like everything in my article is a proven fact and true and has been verified by media sources, The Tainwan Gov, the Chinese themselves and the US-UK .... So thumbing it down doesn't take away that everything in it is a proven fact.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/grows-virus-cell-culture.html.

Human Coronavirus Types | CDC

CDC Human Coronavirus Types: Information about the six types of coronaviruses including MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV.

www.cdc.gov

Naming the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and the virus that causes it

An explanation of the official names for the corona virus disease (COVID-2019) and the virus that causes it.

www.who.int

.

And after you follow the many trails you get to.
https://www.cleanlink.com/news/article/SARS-CoV-2-and-COVID-19-Whats-The-Difference--25264

Just like I did.

Here is some further links for you showing that SARS-covid2 is Covid19

BEI Resources Repository

The BEI Resources Repository is a central repository that supplies organisms and reagents to the broad community of microbiology and infectious diseases researchers. Materials are available through an online catalog.There is no charge for research materials, but domestic investigators will be...

www.niaid.nih.gov

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-17/coronavirus-glossary.. latimes.

Ok I see the confusion now

SARS-CoV-2 is not the same SARS that existed when over a decade ago that caused the initial scare to the world. Just like there's multiple strains of the flu there are multiple strains of SARS. So you're right to say it's SARS but your wrong if you're saying it's the same SARS that the world was afraid of before

 

[Deleted125623]

Ok I see the confusion now

SARS-CoV-2 is not the same SARS that existed when over a decade ago that caused the initial scare to the world. Just like there's multiple strains of the flu there are multiple strains of SARS. So you're right to say it's SARS but your wrong if you're saying it's the same SARS that the world was afraid of before

I'm not saying its, the very same SARs but it has a direct genetic connection making it a varient of the original SARs. So I'm not wrong in what I say.

In 2007 researchers in Hong Kong found a which had previously killed more than 700 people in China between 2002 and 2003. The study published in the Clinical Microbiology Reviews found the same causative agent found in the SARS outbreak to the novel coronavirus – which has now been officially identified as Sars-Cov-2. The project claims the presence of the killer virus could be carried by bats and transmitted through the consumption of exotic animals .

The study states: “The presence of a large reservoir of Sars-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, along with the tradition of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb.” The deadly coronavirus is thought to have originated from a meat market in the Chinese city of Wuhan in late 2019, but the exact cause of the outbreak is yet to be officially known.

In 2008 researchers in Germany also found a link between a pathogen found in coronavirus and SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome).The SARS pandemic originated in China in 2002 and infected 8,098 people - killing 774.

Since the emergence of SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, bats have been the suspect of harbouring emerging viruses. Several studies have recently reported the detection of coronaviruses of pandemic potential [26,27]. Genetic evolutionary analysis of SARS-CoV-2 revealed that this virus is genetically related to two bat coronaviruses.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352771420300136

The scientists first obtained bronchoalveolar lavage (BAL) fluid samples taken from the patients, isolated the DNA and RNA, then sequenced the genetic material. Most of the viral sequences belonged to the CoV family of viruses, which includes the SARS-CoV and the Middle East respiratory syndrome-related (MERS) CoV. The researchers then constructed the whole genomic sequence of the new virus—now known as COVID-19—and found that its genome sequence is 79 percent similar to the SARS-CoV, about 51.8 percent similar to the MERS-CoV, and about 87.6-87.7 percent similar to other SARS-like CoVs from Chinese horseshoe bats (called ZC45 and ZXC21). These findings clearly suggest that the virus originated from bats.

Chinese Scientists Sequence Genome Of COVID-19 - Asian Scientist Magazine

A research group in China has sequenced the genome of the COVID-19 virus and reported that the virus most likely originated from bats.

www.asianscientist.com

 

[Blade4u22]

I'm not saying its, the very same SARs but it has a direct genetic connection making it a varient of the original SARs. So I'm not wrong in what I say.

In 2007 researchers in Hong Kong found a direct link between COVID-19 and the SARS virus which had previously killed more than 700 people in China between 2002 and 2003. The study published in the Clinical Microbiology Reviews found the same causative agent found in the SARS outbreak to the novel coronavirus – which has now been officially identified as Sars-Cov-2. The project claims the presence of the killer virus could be carried by bats and transmitted through the consumption of exotic animals .

The study states: “The presence of a large reservoir of Sars-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, along with the tradition of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb.” The deadly coronavirus is thought to have originated from a meat market in the Chinese city of Wuhan in late 2019, but the exact cause of the outbreak is yet to be officially known.

In 2008 researchers in Germany also found a link between a pathogen found in coronavirus and SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome).The SARS pandemic originated in China in 2002 and infected 8,098 people - killing 774.

Ironically the information you put on here actually proves my point. Let's start here:

"In 2007 researchers in Hong Kong found a direct link between COVID-19 and the SARS virus which had previously killed more than 700 people in China between 2002 and 2003. The study published in the Clinical Microbiology Reviews found the same causative agent found in the SARS outbreak to the novel coronavirus – which has now been officially identified as Sars-Cov-2. The project claims the presence of the killer virus could be carried by bats and transmitted through the consumption of exotic animals."

The bolded sentence isnt saying that the two viruses are the same. They have the same causative agent. I say this again, both the original SARS and COVID-19(Sars-Cov-2) are both the in coronavirus family so it's expected for them to shave the same causative agent. It's why your own source labels them as two different things.

"In 2008 researchers in Germany also found a link between a pathogen found in coronavirus and SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome).The SARS pandemic originated in China in 2002 and infected 8,098 people - killing 774."

Again your own scouce is labeling them as two different viruses.

Look I'm not saying pathology is easy to understand because it's not. What I am saying that you're wrong. You're even wrong based on the information/scouce which you have even provided.

There's nothing wrong with being wrong. The issue is when you wrong and decide that you're not open to being wrong... Especially in an area you're not an expert in. Because then you can't grow as an intellectual and a human being. I'm honestly trying to politely help you see the error in your argument. People are wrong all the time.

WD-40 is called WD-40 because there were 39 failures prior to the success.

Viagra was originally made as heart medication.

Did they double down on their wrongness. No, because that would get them nowhere instead they learned from their mistakes or changed their way of thinking until they were successful. It's ok to be wrong.

 

[Deleted125623]

I suggest you read the added

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352771420300136

The scientists first obtained bronchoalveolar lavage (BAL) fluid samples taken from the patients, isolated the DNA and RNA, then sequenced the genetic material. Most of the viral sequences belonged to the CoV family of viruses, which includes the SARS-CoV and the Middle East respiratory syndrome-related (MERS) CoV. The researchers then constructed the whole genomic sequence of the new virus—now known as COVID-19—and found that its genome sequence is 79 percent similar to the SARS-CoV, about 51.8 percent similar to the MERS-CoV, and about 87.6-87.7 percent similar to other SARS-like CoVs from Chinese horseshoe bats (called ZC45 and ZXC21). These findings clearly suggest that the virus originated from bats. ..

DNA sleuths read the coronavirus genome, tracing its origins and looking for dangerous mutations

As epidemiologists race to contain the outbreak of a novel #coronavirus, they’re getting backup from the explosion in genetic technologies

www.statnews.com

Since the sequencing of the first 2019-nCoV sample, from an early patient, scientists have completed nearly two dozen more, said Andrew Rambaut of the University of Edinburgh, an expert on viral evolution. That pace is “unprecedented and completely unbelievable,” said Andersen, who worked on sequencing the Ebola genome during the 2014 outbreak. “It’s just insane.”

The genome of the Wuhan virus is 29,903 bases long, one of many clues that have led scientists to believe it is very similar to SARS.
By comparing the two dozen genomes, scientists can address the “when did this start” question. The 24 available samples, including from Thailand and Shenzhen as well as Wuhan, show “very limited genetic variation,” Rambaut concluded on an online discussion forum where virologists have been sharing data and analyses. “This is indicative of a relatively recent common ancestor for all these viruses.”

(Writing in the New England Journal of Medicine on Friday, another team of scientists in China reported that the new coronavirus is 86.9% identical to the bat SARS-like coronavirus.)


Again...I don't think I am wrong in what I say, because I'm not saying its the very same SARs but it has a direct genetic varient of the original SARs virus found in bats in 2017 which is proven even by all the links I provided.

 

[Blade4u22]

I suggest you read the added

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352771420300136

The scientists first obtained bronchoalveolar lavage (BAL) fluid samples taken from the patients, isolated the DNA and RNA, then sequenced the genetic material. Most of the viral sequences belonged to the CoV family of viruses, which includes the SARS-CoV and the Middle East respiratory syndrome-related (MERS) CoV. The researchers then constructed the whole genomic sequence of the new virus—now known as COVID-19—and found that its genome sequence is 79 percent similar to the SARS-CoV, about 51.8 percent similar to the MERS-CoV, and about 87.6-87.7 percent similar to other SARS-like CoVs from Chinese horseshoe bats (called ZC45 and ZXC21). These findings clearly suggest that the virus originated from bats. ..

DNA sleuths read the coronavirus genome, tracing its origins and looking for dangerous mutations

As epidemiologists race to contain the outbreak of a novel #coronavirus, they’re getting backup from the explosion in genetic technologies

www.statnews.com

Since the sequencing of the first 2019-nCoV sample, from an early patient, scientists have completed nearly two dozen more, said Andrew Rambaut of the University of Edinburgh, an expert on viral evolution. That pace is “unprecedented and completely unbelievable,” said Andersen, who worked on sequencing the Ebola genome during the 2014 outbreak. “It’s just insane.”

The genome of the Wuhan virus is 29,903 bases long, one of many clues that have led scientists to believe it is very similar to SARS.
By comparing the two dozen genomes, scientists can address the “when did this start” question. The 24 available samples, including from Thailand and Shenzhen as well as Wuhan, show “very limited genetic variation,” Rambaut concluded on an online discussion forum where virologists have been sharing data and analyses. “This is indicative of a relatively recent common ancestor for all these viruses.”

(Writing in the New England Journal of Medicine on Friday, another team of scientists in China reported that the new coronavirus is 86.9% identical to the bat SARS-like coronavirus.)


Again...I don't think I am wrong in what I say, because I'm not saying its the very same SARs but it has a direct genetic varient of the original SARs virus found in bats in 2017 which is proven even by all the links I provided.

You literally said "COVID-19 is SARS"

 

[Deleted125623]

You literally said "COVID-19 is SARS" View attachment 3254165

In that context as in covid-19 thats true because Covid-19 IS SARs-covid2 is a direct genetic variation of the original SARs. So it isn't the original virus... But you keep splitting hair trying to make yourself right.

Once I get back my answer from the CDC, ( which hubby was kind enough to contact one of his friends there) I am hoping to show you once and for all that the SARs-covid2 is geneticaly linked to the SARs virus found in bats in 2017 who were responsible for the outbreak in 2002.

Scotland, the US, Taiwan, japan, Australia, the UK , Germany all are saying that the similarity to the original virus is 58% by their mapping of the virus.

You do understand what similar means right?

uncountable noun
If there is a similarity between two or more things, they are similar to each other.

countable noun [usually plural]
Similarities are features that things have which make them similar to each other.

Once I have my answers you wil be the first to know.

 

[Orion Pax]

Ding Ding!

 

[Deleted125623]

Ding Ding!

Not at all...It makes a change to have a sometimes heated arguement over different positions and idea's on the matter without the usual vitrol and nastyness usually associated with B2W threads on here. Both of us consider we have a strong postion on the matter and are continually trying to persuade and change the others point of view. No political BS, no name calling, no cussing ( I think thats how you call it in the US) staying on the subject defending a point of view..A rarity on here and I'm for one enjoying the disagreement as much as the agreement. As only from both parts can you judge your own standpoint .