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What has your definition of cuckolding to do with your definition of a DP (you're wrong by the way) and the Americanization of European words?
I'll let you stand as the expert on cuckolding, I don't understand it. With more people in the lifestyle, the definition is not as rigid as it was in the 80s or 90s, during your time.
A DP is a double penetration which we all know is one in the pink and one in the stink. Period.
DVP is double vaginal penetration- both in the cat, nothing in the back.
And a spit roast is one in the mouth and one in the south.
It's as simple as that.
The Celtics, were actually named after the Original Celtic who were from New York's west side pre WWI and were all irish immigrants - meaning born in Ireland. They weren't descendants but actually Irish immigrants. It wasn't until post WWII that Walter Brown up in Boston decided on Celtics as the name of the Boston pro team. It was named after the Original Celtics from Manhattan and a huge nod to the Irish ******* that runs through almost 1/6th of Bostonians at the time.
The pronunciation is correct. The hard 'k' came in usage back in the 18th century - before that it was a soft 'c' for about a thousand years going back to beginning of the Middle Ages - that's when the soft 'c' sound first began usage. Before then it was written as 'ts' which is hard to pronounce with modern English.
Chic Jeans, were called 'chick' because that's how the company advertised them! And it was always an American denim company going back to the 1920s. They called it 'chick'. So we called it chick.
You didn't watch the commercials?
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Not sure what you mean by "rigid" in this context. (@M-O Mary: ) The true definiton of "cuckolding" is the fact that a Woman who is in a "legitimate relationship" (- in former times presuming marriage) has sexual relations (of whatever form) with a man who is not her (primary) partner (with no difference if that partner knows about it, consents to it, or not)! The male partner is termed a "cuckold".
But the term has then been adopted to also refer to a sexual lifestyle or "kink" in which consenting adults (husband and wife or boyfriend and girlfriend both) willingly choose for the female partner of the couple to be shared in that way, meaning the male partner is aware of and consenting to his female partner having sexual relations with at least one other man but in many cases more than just one other man, all while the (primary) partners maintain their relationship.
The first definition (i provided above) of the term is the dictionary definition that exists for centuries now. The latter definition of cuckolding as a lifestyle came up not earlier than the second half of the 20th century, following a sexual liberation movement and the advent of swinging. That usage may be less well-defined than the one that's out and about for centuries - which is to be expected.
However there is a broad consensus on its meaning in the world of science spanning the fields of psychology, sexual biology, theory of evolution, ethology, and other social behavioral sciences. Plenty of papers have been published using the terms "cuckolding" and "cuckold" in a most general notion - with only consensus from both partners (and sexual arousal as a motivator) added to the "original" dictionary definition.
And i refuse to believe that any "individual definition" provided by any member or user of an arbitrary web forum site would be as relevant as to change established scientific consensus on a term's meaning!
I agree with what you’re saying, the genre has developed many different facets, the first of them being the voluntary cuck who was originally a Voyeur and then decided the person he wanted to watch was his significant other, I can buy that two, but like I said, in order for it to be cuckolding you have to have skin in the game!
Not sure what you mean by "rigid" in this context. (@M-O Mary: ) The true definiton of "cuckolding" is the fact that a Woman who is in a "legitimate relationship" (- in former times presuming marriage) has sexual relations (of whatever form) with a man who is not her (primary) partner (with no difference if that partner knows about it, consents to it, or not)! The male partner is termed a "cuckold".
But the term has then been adopted to also refer to a sexual lifestyle or "kink" in which consenting adults (husband and wife or boyfriend and girlfriend both) willingly choose for the female partner of the couple to be shared in that way, meaning the male partner is aware of and consenting to his female partner having sexual relations with at least one other man but in many cases more than just one other man, all while the (primary) partners maintain their relationship.
The first definition (i provided above) of the term is the dictionary definition that exists for centuries now. The latter definition of cuckolding as a lifestyle came up not earlier than the second half of the 20th century, following a sexual liberation movement and the advent of swinging. That usage may be less well-defined than the one that's out and about for centuries - which is to be expected.
However there is a broad consensus on its meaning in the world of science spanning the fields of psychology, sexual biology, theory of evolution, ethology, and other social behavioral sciences. Plenty of papers have been published using the terms "cuckolding" and "cuckold" in a most general notion - with only consensus from both partners (and sexual arousal as a motivator) added to the "original" dictionary definition.
And i refuse to believe that any "individual definition" provided by any member or user of an arbitrary web forum site would be as relevant as to change established scientific consensus on a term's meaning!
No…I didn’t spend much time on the commercials, I was pretty young and busy folding Jean in the mall where I saw the first store back when I had just left my teens and they hired me. As you’re willing to give me credit on cuckolding, I’ll concede to the Irish being immigrants as opposed to descendants of immigrants. The term “DVP” must be a relatively new one cause I’ve never heard of it since I got involved around forty years ago. “My time”…as you refer to it actually ran from ‘85 to ‘07. Yes your description of “spit roast” is quite correct, although the term “seesaw” was the original…as was my description of “DP…sorry, but when you’re wrong you’re wrong, I’m afraid we’ll have to agree to disagree! I guess I just stopped studying when I found out the Celtics were pronounced with a hard C, so I can’t argue with you on that. They were really only examples of terms that changed their pronunciation, or adopted a form of Americanization. The attraction to Anal sex (and it’s new classification), is also a product of the ‘80’s..,people were doing it for many years before that and DP had nothing to do with the anus until the VCR and internet came along.
those commercials sure got a young boy up for a while
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Mary. Is the G. O. A. T. She is a *******.
Please keep your distance. Mary. I have your back.
Please keep your distance. Mary. I have your back.
Wish I knew what the censored word is, LOLMary. Is the G. O. A. T. She is a *******.
Please keep your distance. Mary. I have your back.
I spar with her regularly. Who tf are you? You're certainly not Robert Ulrich.Mary. Is the G. O. A. T. She is a *******.
Please keep your distance. Mary. I have your back.
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Well it appears your lack of spine rather create dumbass acronyms than to say what you're really thinking.
I know exactly what you wrote, just wondering if you have the balls to put your racism on full display?
That’s really reaching for the reference, but I get it, both my hub and I have a strong fondness of T-Birds, we had 3 of them. When the last one (my hubs pride and joy, a ‘95 40th Anniversary Edition monochromatic black with custom black rims), got totaled by a little old lady in a shopping center parking lot. We couldn’t find a replacement, so hub got frisky and bought an ‘04 40th Anniversary Edition Mustang GT, monochromatic white…but I digress, I believe Dan Tanner was how he spelled it!
Uh oh…there goes that trigger, rather than give one the benefit of the doubt, when you think you’re being triggered (without any proof), you instantly jumped on the race card (although all things considered, your assumption has a strong possibility of being correct), but to be the bigger man you should attempt to extract the proper meaning while you maintain your civility, there’s always the outside chance he means “BIG” POS, as opposed to Black. Personally (unless I’m smacked in the face with some blatant white racism), I usually anticipate a rather calm non racist attitude on sites like this. I mean, it’s hard for people of different races to fuck if that shits in the way, wouldn’t you agree. I mean hell, I spent 23 years fuck’n black guys and I hope you don’t think that’s all we did in those motel rooms for a few hours. We joked around and laughed, smoke a shitload of weed, and everybody got along real good (and I had a couple of guys that I maintained a relationship with for six years, it wasn’t just about cock and pussy, we’re fuck’n people first, no?
The quick answer is, no. Experience on this site has taught me better.
A non-verified, non-paying single white guy on this site is the worst addition to this site and ALWAYS starting *******.
When triggered, their true nature comes out. I'm not going to ask him to explain himself or politely digress. My response will be quick aggressive and decisive. I don't fuck around with racism, and could care less about hurting their feelings.
Other than that, I'm just a big ol' puppy dog.
Excellent wheels.
Dan Tanner was cool asf, however, I like the Spenser character better. On tv it was far short of the complexities that we got to know in the books (12 years old reading those PI books), but it was interesting. I guess Spenser was a Boston version of the the Vegas Tanner.
I just saw this somewhere - this woman has a very cute ass.
Plus he drove a killer Mustang
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Just as a point of information, I once saw an interview with him where he discussed that T-Bird, he hated it, it had drum brakes and he called it a death trap, his big problem with it was the Continental kit, it changed the whole balance of the car and when pushed just the slightest it would fishtail. My hub says that makes sense, I remember how much he said things changed when I was on the back of his BSA chopper, he had to compensate when we cornered, plus I had to lean with him, not against him, I learned that the hard way, LOL. Nothing bad happened, but the first time I screwed up and he had to get us out of a fishtailing situation…don’t ya just love adrenaline?
