Sounds like you're a coward who can't answer a question.
Wake Up, America! Wake Up! PLEASE!!
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Damn I missed this part of the RNC convention. Sounds lit
This is true since I've done some benefits work inside a few meat packing plants around NC. The ones guilty of this are the meat packing plants, however. The illegals don't see the significance of the social security cards other than it helps them find low skilled work. AND, they get paid about 20-25% less than the other minorities hired at the plants, AND ... all these employers withhold FICA from their paychecks even though these illegal workers have no way to access the FICA benefits.
One large plant in NC employs over 5,000 workers of which 25-30% of them are illegal. When ICE plans one of their surprise visits to the plants, miraculously, those 25-30% illegals don't show up on the day ICE visit. Wonder why that is? How do ALL the illegals suddenly NOT show up for work on the same day ICE visits the plants?
Its employers and the government system that is exploiting the illegals, not the other way around.
Undocumented immigrants are paying their taxes today, too | CNN
It's a surprising fact that's often overlooked in the immigration debate. Undocumented immigrants pay billions of dollars in federal taxes annually, between tax returns filed and taxes deducted from paychecks, experts estimate.www.cnn.com
What year was this or what lib source did you pull it?
I noticed how you cherry picked and left out this part: "This criminal activity is routinely swept under the rug in order to protect the myth of the law abiding illegal alien. However, when pushed, even the strongest supporters of illegal aliens are ****** to acknowledge that the vast majority of illegal aliens commit multiple felonies." Fits you like a glove.
And they wouldn't have to pay into the system and "not miss out" on FICA returns if they followed the law.
Well except for all the free school, free healthcare and Snap their ******* get while they are here. And don't mention if the kid(s) are born here. And I am calling BS on the company gets them SSN the front line sup might tell them were to go locally, but they are not getting them from the employer, who is risking 10 years in jail for them. The illegal criminal aliens get them at the border via the Coyote or their "family" has a local source.
And no the average illegal costs us 1000x more then they every produce. And, as a benefits guy you should know, they can get illegal criminal alien EIN and file for the returns and get even more money, since they really don't pay taxes. And the IRS won't turn them into ICE. And do companies exploit them, depends. Most are paid low end of the scale but still on the same scale, DOL looks for that and if they are paying taxes the DOL would see that. You as a benefits guy should know that.
Many of the illegals know the deal and have no issue, would like more, but they are making 100s to 1000s more than they would in Mexico.
And again if they didn't break the laws, many laws, they would not have to worry about the FICA. And yes if they can prove the company people should've know then they should get hooked up too.
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Sounds like you don't have an answer on how to fix it.
And still can't understand basic English.
They can file a return. They can get an EIN and file.
And they don't pay taxes at all. Like most of you.
I asked if you think putting ******* in cages is bad, and you responded with "well how do you fix all problems with immigration, huh?!?" That is not a good-faith argument. That is shifting the burden of proof and a straw man, since fixing all immigration wasn't the subject of what I was talking about.
You're not answering because you know that taking a position will open you up to me pointing out more contradictions in what you've been saying.
I assure you I pay more in taxes than you make in total and then some. Undocumented workers also pay more than their fair share:
So I am just curious. How do they know this? They can't even narrow the numbers down to within a round Million total (10 to 12 million could be here). And most estimates say the criminal illegal aliens cost the US tax paying Citizens over a $100 Billion each year. So who cares that they get screwed on a few bucks in taxes as each is committing 3-12 Felonies doing it. And yes in the hourly rates they work it is literally a few bucks and they could file and get the US Gov't to give them a lot more with deductions and credits.
No, my answer was very clear. And then I asked you how do you fix the system you are trying to hint is broken. Yet you think your false dilemma is a winner so you keep trying it.
Do you think the immigration system and borders are good or bad?
And I doubt that, How many checks or reports do you send to the IRS a year?
It's not clear, because you never answered
You're asking about a complete system, not a single action. Since it's a complex system, I will answer "good in some ways and bad in others"
Quarterly, like anyone with substantial non-w2 income
. You act like I haven't given you the same answer 3 or 4 times and them you give a very similar answer. Quarterly? Well you missed one check/report for 1099 income. And "non-w2 income"
, yeah... when you don't know what you don't know.... And yet I asked a very specific questions, are open borders good or bad? Why won't you answer? Why do you keep not answering the question I have asked so many times? Why are you for the destruction of America? Why won't you answer the question? You are either for borders and the dems hate you or you are for the destruction of American and want to starve *******. Why do you want to starve ******* and be a racist?
Is the immigration system of the US good or bad? Why won't you answer the question? Why won't you say if the system is good or bad? It is a simple question you are either a good person or a terrible person. Why do you hate America and want to starve ******* and be a racist?
Quarterly? Well you missed one check/report for 1099 income. And "non-w2 income"
I don't do a lot of consulting lately (though I used to). My non-W2 income is mostly coming from investments, which even at max withholdings are still below what I need to pay to avoid IRS fees.
Sorry you're poor.
What was it then? Good or bad?
That's not what you asked at all. Why are you changing the question instead of answering mine?
If you want to me to answer the question of whether open borders are good -- just ask it.
My response would be that they can be good, but they require a lot of forward planning. The EU operates on open borders, but they had to do a lot of investment to give a more level playing field to labor markets to avoid e.g. everyone from Spain immediately moving to Germany to work in shops.
The US has open borders, but we have a Federal Government that keeps a level playing field between states (hence why my New York tax dollars support people in Florida and Texas).
Trolling 101: at least try to sound sincere
None of these suits have ever led to convict
They are all lies
Let’s investigate Biden family
Do you realize that for years no one had any issue with Trump when he was a Democrat but understand this they want to investigate everything he snd his family has ever donesvzm Trump U
How about Bernie Sanders Burlington College Clintons with DeJohn U and OBama with PhoenixU
No we never check them
Pelosi and Peter pelosi high tech scam
Maxine Waters money laundering ponzu scheme with CITI Bsnk where her ******* with no qualifications received $900,000 job
Do throw stones at Trump
Before you take the splinter out of the Trumls take the log out of you MAGA
that is a nice story....but in what chapter do you shut the fuck up?
you are nucking futs you know that don't you....but then you are a trumptard so we have low expectations
first off there have been some conconvictions in regard to some of those....but like with stormy daniels and the 13 year old and others....he bought his way out...…...you surely remember before the election the tape of him bragging about most of this
Investigate all you want....the complaint there....Biden likes to give people a hug...….both sides and a lot of people have stated so....but typical of the right......trump so corrupt he corrupts everyone around him...but lets investigate someone else....that is the way the right likes to do things anyway...….ignore their mess...deflect away from it and cast doubt on the other party...nothing truthful..just cast doubt
for years he was not a leader of this country representing us around the world.....now he is a national embarrassment with his lies and corruption....but it is people like you that condone it and help promote it as alright
and what does Bernie sanders...Clinton or any of the others you mentioned have to do with you condoning trumps corruption and ******* of 170,000 of it's citizens?
Pelosi? what are you doing now making up news as you go...I read the "Bing" and the "Yahoo" home pages every morning....and nothing there on any of that...…...must be more of something Fox news and it's fools help push and promote
you got a lot of accusations there...…….but with trump firing so many legal people anymore trying to cover his tracks....most start at the top...that would be trump....one PROVEN criminal at a time and there are only so many legal people in the country...….most are involved with trump one way or the other...defending him or trying to jail him...….of course you do know now we are trying him and we are paying for his defense.....if he was to catch covid save the country a lot of money....that is something else he promoted
now please cancel my subscription to you issues!
Nah, just took your script, flipped it on you, and did a better job.
FYI 2 holes in your "I'm Rich" BS.
1) No one paying AMT or Quarterly calls it "non-w2" Especially if you are a "consultant"
2) Anyone paying AMT or Quarterly knows there are either 5 checks or 5 Returns. 1 check each quarter coupled with an "Informational" Return, unless you are an idiot who wants to talk to the IRS, and either a full return or a full return and a check in April. And you would know this because it pisses you off to have to write those checks and pay your accountant.
"The US has open borders, but we have a Federal Government that keeps a level playing field between states (hence why my New York tax dollars support people in Florida and Texas)."
No, America does not have open borders. We have long borders making enforcement hard. Hence the point of this whole exchange.
And your "New York" tax dollars stay in NY. Your Federal Tax dollars go to the Federal Government. And they both abuse and miss use those dollars. You really don't know how the US works do you?
And you just hinted you are a Troll. "Trolling 101: at least try to sound sincere" You took a class.... But you are ok because you are a sincere Troll.
Enjoy. This alludes to two trends.
1) ya'll Dems are full of it on the BS racist Narrative
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2) Social Media is using "fact check" to censor because all of this is verified and all over the internet. And not one mention of Covid. The only reason it is "fact check" is to protect the lib Dem narrative.
I know sub and Ridge and Ed you won't watching it. Your sensitive dem psychics can't take it.
1) ya'll Dems are full of it on the BS racist Narrative
and
2) Social Media is using "fact check" to censor because all of this is verified and all over the internet. And not one mention of Covid. The only reason it is "fact check" is to protect the lib Dem narrative.
I know sub and Ridge and Ed you won't watching it. Your sensitive dem psychics can't take it.
I never said I'm rich. I said you're poor.
I haven't had to pay AMT in awhile since I'm not doing a lot of real-estate and I haven't been exercising a lot of ISOs.
People with a high salary but also money coming from investments pay estimated taxes quarterly to avoid underpayment penalties.
Weird, every time I've driven across state lines in the US I've never been stopped at a border, or needed a passport. Does your state have a border? I wasn't aware of any physical borders between states in the US.
Odd.....with all the ******* going on...…..and nothing from Adolp Shitler……….this 17 year old...……..NOT anything to do with BLM....just a white supremist there to push trouble......a trump supporter.....with photographic eveidance…….trump caught with his pants down …..and not saying a fucking word.....if this kid had not been caught he would have kept pushing the "democratic" lawlessness
how much of the rest of this is the same was...…….Minn found a lot were the same type people....but the arrests were not public enough for trump to stop with his bullshit
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You've stated numerous times your fears that Trump won't debate Biden or will back out of some/all debates. I am shocked! shocked! you haven't excoriated Pelosi over her call to not let Biden debate Trump.
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I would be surprised if any debates happen. I don't think either campaign sees much up-side
You've stated numerous times your fears that Trump won't debate Biden or will back out of some/all debates. I am shocked! shocked! you haven't excoriated Pelosi over her call to not let Biden debate Trump.
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sorry we pushed your buttons....we were looking for "mute"
I imagine Pelosi thinks it is a lose-lose situation for Biden because Trump is so dishonest & unethical, and won't play by the rules of the debate. He'll attempt to take over the debate, use his own rules, talk about what he wants, making up exaggerations, lies, and destroying the truth, which would put Biden on "defense" to protect the facts. When you think back to 2016, that's exactly what he did to Clinton, and she fell for it.
This debate, however, would be totally different because Trump has basically failed at everything he promised, in his 2016 platform, to do ... Mexican fence, healthcare, illegal immigration, de-nuclearization of N Korea & Iran, paying off the Nat'l Debt, draining the "Swamp", etc. Biden, should debate Trump because he would be able to crush Trump on any and/or of of those topics as they come up. Plus, the covid-19 is in the fore-front of this election cycle and has been a major catastrophe for Trump.
As of yesterday, Biden said he wanted to debate Trump. Notre Dame & Uni Michigan cancelled their planned debates because of covid-19. Only one I see still up is the Cleveland debate. I honestly think it would be a major mistake for the Democrats to allow Trump to get off so easily on his first-term failures, as he's had NO successes to amount to anything.
I think it is Trump who doesn't want to debate Biden. If you recall, during the Muller investigations, Trump talked loudly and boldly about wanting to sit, under oath, to answer Muller's questions ... then when the time came to do so, he balked and refused. Not ONLY did he refuse for himself, he told all of his administration to IGNORE their subpoenas to testify under oath ... I'm sure you recall that happening, right? Trump's biggest "hand" is bluffing ... he'll bluff right up to the last minute. I'd call his bluff and debate the cocksucker.
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