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Since you're now asserting that Hugo Chavez' family owned and controlled 70% of the Venezuelan economy themselves, the burden of proof is on you to actually demonstrate that btw.
 
And yet they are Communist. How could that be?

How could all the countries you say are not Socialist and Communist be Socialist and Communist by their own declaration?
How can the three countries you say are not Capitalists' be Capitalist by their own declaration?

How is that possible?

How can all the economic forums note them as Communist, but Ridge, who has no idea what the internationally accepted economic base definition of socialism is, know better than the people living there and the World Economic Forum, Econ Professor world wide and the State Department? How could that be?

Hey I'm just using your definitions here. I asked for a definition of socialism, you provided it, and I'm applying it according to the exact wording of what you wrote.

If you want to argue that China is actually communist, you totally can (and should), but you have to walk back your definition.
 
When the numbers and evidence doesn't say what you want it to, I guess closing your eyes and pretending it's not there is one strategy.
Well you would have to provide some.

An Fox attributed single number and a random GDP number does not prove Venezuela is not a socialist dictatorship and Norway is Socialist state.

You should read the article I posted. It address the Nordic myth you Leftist Socialist believe. As far as Venezuela, well you are about the only person who believes that they are capitalist.
 
Well you would have to provide some.

An Fox attributed single number and a random GDP number does not prove Venezuela is not a socialist dictatorship and Norway is Socialist state.

You should read the article I posted. It address the Nordic myth you Leftist Socialist believe. As far as Venezuela, well you are about the only person who believes that they are capitalist.

For the 10,000th time, I am using your definition of socialism. I am saying that under your definition, Venezuela is capitalist with a couple of "socialized" industries, like Norway.

You can't be this learning disabled, can you? I've repeated this over and over and over again but you're still not getting it.
 
Since you're now asserting that Hugo Chavez' family owned and controlled 70% of the Venezuelan economy themselves, the burden of proof is on you to actually demonstrate that btw.


Yes, Venezuela Is a Socialist Catastrophe
In the age of A.O.C., the lesson must be learned again.


Wow even psycho hard left NY Times thinks you are clueless

Oh and here is Fox saying you don't know what you are talking about.

How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case



And here is a choice quote: "Thousands of private businesses were nationalized – including media outlets, oil and power companies, mines, farms, banks, factories, and grocery stores." That was 2006
 
This is going past funny and into pathetic. You don't even know how to argue because you're too dense to understand the point, even when I'm telegraphing it to you over and over.

Here's a hint: posting articles that say Venezuela is socialist actually strengthens my argument, not weakens it.
 
This is going past funny and into pathetic. You don't even know how to argue because you're too dense to understand the point, even when I'm telegraphing it to you over and over.

Here's a hint: posting articles that say Venezuela is socialist actually strengthens my argument, not weakens it.

Not even close. You argued Norway and Venezuela are the same. They are not.
 
Sorry hit the button too quick

Hugo nationalized 1000s of business and controlled the economy

He built competing national businesses, but they didn't do so great and didn't displace or replace the existing private economy. You can tell, because, well, 70% of the economy remained in private industry and commerce.

A larger percentage of the economy in private business then, drum roll, Norway
 
Not even close. You argued Norway and Venezuela are the same. They are not.

No, I'm arguing that you don't have a consistent definition of socialism, and just apply it willy-nilly according to what you think makes you look good.

Which is funny because you can find Fox News doing the same thing arguing that Venezuela is super capitalist and not at all socialist before their economy crashed after the price of oil dropped, then afterwards they argue that Venezuela was the most socialist place ever and that's why their economy failed.
 
He built competing national businesses, but they didn't do so great and didn't displace or replace the existing private economy. You can tell, because, well, 70% of the economy remained in private industry and commerce.

A larger percentage of the economy in private business then, drum roll, Norway

What year did this 70% come from? And who provided it to Fox, if it comes from there? The very same source you claim said it 70 % private states 2006 Hugo nationalized the vast majority of the business. Hugo didn't start as a socialist when he took the "Presidency". He ****** the country there.

Norway is a capitalist country with high taxes and welfare.

Not even close.
 
And Mac you of all people. Are you fucking serious about Trumps infidelity. So what these women are liars like Hillary said of Bill's accusers? Oh that was a long time ago? He has never been charged? It's a Republican conspiracy?
The Women Who Have Spoken Out Against Joe Biden
By Amanda Arnold and Claire Lampen
Joe Biden.

Joe Biden. Photo: Bastiaan Slabbers/NurPhoto via Getty Images
Ahead of former vice-president Joe Biden’s expected 2020 presidential bid, women are speaking out about their personal interactions with him — alleging he physically touched them in ways that made them feel uncomfortable. Last week, the Cut published an essay by Lucy Flores, a former Nevada lieutenant governor nominee, who wrote that Biden smelled her hair and kissed the back of her head at a campaign event in 2014. In the week since, several more women have come forward.
Below, here’s a running list of the allegations against Biden.
Lucy Flores
On March 29, in the aforementioned essay published on the Cut, former Nevada lieutenant governor nominee Lucy Flores alleged that Biden smelled her hair and gave her “a big slow kiss” on the back of her head at an event for her 2014 campaign. In that moment, she wrote, she felt “embarrassed” and “shocked.”
“I wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from me,” she continued. In response to the essay, Biden claimed that he had no memory of having “acted inappropriately,” but added that if he was in the wrong, he would “listen respectfully.”
Amy Lappos
When Amy Lappos was a congressional aide for U.S. representative Jim Himes in 2009, she claims that Biden touched and rubbed his nose against hers during a political fund-raiser. “It wasn’t sexual, but he did grab me by the head,” she told Hartford Courant on April 1. “He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth.”

After the incident, Lappos didn’t file a formal complaint. “He was the vice president,” she told the Courant. “I was a nobody.”
D.J. Hill
D.J. Hill was one of two women to come forward with allegations in the New York Times, which referred to Biden’s conduct as “tactile politics” in a report published on April 2. At a 2012 at a fundraising event in Minneapolis, Hill alleges that Biden rested his hand on her shoulder, and then started to move it down her back, which left her feeling “very uncomfortable.”
“Only he knows his intent,” she told the Times, adding, “If something makes you feel uncomfortable, you have to feel able to say it.”
Caitlyn Caruso
In the same Times report, a woman named Caitlyn Caruso claimed that after sharing the story of her sexual assault at a University of Nevada event in 2016, Biden hugged her “just a little bit too long” and laid his hand on her thigh.
“It doesn’t even really cross your mind that such a person would dare perpetuate harm like that,” she told the Times. “These are supposed to be people you can trust.”
Ally Coll
On April 3, Ally Coll told the Washington Post that at a 2008 reception, Biden squeezed her shoulders, complimented her smile, and held her “for a beat too long.” A young Democratic staffer at the time, Coll said her initial reaction was to shrug it off. But she told the Post she now feels the alleged incident was inappropriate, adding, “There’s been a lack of understanding about the way that power can turn something that might seem innocuous into something that can make somebody feel uncomfortable.”
Sofie Karasek
In 2016, Sofie Karasek was photographed holding hands and touching foreheads with Biden at the Oscars, where she stood alongside 50 other sexual-assault survivors during Lady Gaga’s performance. It was a moment that soon went viral, and was described then by the Post as “powerful.” But in the Post’s report published this week, Karasek says she believes that Biden violated her personal space. She also told the Post that she wasn’t impressed with Biden’s two-minute-long video response to the growing unwanted-touching allegations against him — in which he never says he’s sorry — as he “didn’t take ownership in the way that he needs to.”
“He emphasized that he wants to connect with people and, of course, that’s important,” she told the publication. “But again, all of our interactions and friendships are a two-way street … Too often it doesn’t matter how the woman feels about it or they just assume that they’re fine with it.”
Vail Kohnert-Yount
In the same Post report, Vail Kohnert-Yount alleged that when she was a White House intern in the spring of 2013, Biden “put his hand on the back of [her] head and pressed his forehead to [her] forehead” when he introduced himself, and that he called her a “pretty girl.” She was “so shocked,” she said, “that it was hard to focus on what he was saying.” Though she told the Post that she doesn’t believe Biden’s conduct constituted sexual misconduct, she described it as “the kind of inappropriate behavior that makes many women feel uncomfortable and unequal in the workplace.”
Alexandra Tara Reade
Alexandra Tara Reade told the Union that Biden touched her several times when she worked in his U.S. Senate office in 1993. The incidents, in which she said Biden would “put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck,” allegedly occurred when she was in her mid-20s. Reade told the Union that her responsibilities at work were reduced after she refused to serve drinks at an event — a task she believes she was assigned because Biden liked her legs.
Reade reportedly spoke to U.S. Senate personnel about what was going on, and Biden’s office allegedly found out. She left his office two months later, after only nine months on the job. Reade told the Union that she didn’t feel sexualized by the way she’d been treated, instead saying she felt ornamental, like a lamp: “It’s pretty. Set it over there. Then when it’s too bright, you throw it away.”
In March 2020, Reade expanded on her account, telling the podcaster Katie Halper that Biden sexually assaulted her in the spring of 1993. Reade reiterated her story in interviews with the New York Times the following month, telling the paper that — when she dropped off a gym bag with him one day — he pushed her up against a wall and started kissing her neck, before sliding his hand up her shirt and ultimately up her skirt. “It happened at once. He’s talking to me and his hands are everywhere and everything is happening very quickly,” she recalled. “He was kissing me and he said, very low, ‘Do you want to go somewhere else?’” Reade said Biden penetrated her with his fingers before she was able to pull away. When she did, she says he appeared confused. “He looked at me kind of almost puzzled or shocked,” she told the Times. “He said, ‘Come on, man, I heard you liked me.’” Through a spokesperson, Biden strongly denied this account.
Reade also said Biden reprimanded her. “He pointed his finger at me and he just goes: ‘You’re nothing to me. Nothing,’” she said. “Then, he took my shoulders and said, ‘You’re OK, you’re fine.’”
In a statement to the Times, Biden’s deputy campaign manager, Kate Bedingfield, said: “Vice President Biden has dedicated his public life to changing the culture and the laws around violence against women. He authored and fought for the passage and reauthorization of the landmark Violence Against Women Act. He firmly believes that women have a right to be heard — and heard respectfully. Such claims should also be diligently reviewed by an independent press. What is clear about this claim: It is untrue. This absolutely did not happen.”


kind of a double standard there isn't it.....it is well known trumps escapades...even with underaged....but you over look that...….and jump on the rumors put out by you Russian friends
 
Which is funny because you can find Fox News


hate to correct you...….but even fox says they are not a news network!

just these right wingers will buy anything that tells them what they want to hear....which is why most avoid facts and do not have a brain in their head.....like the one you are talking to

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No, I'm arguing that you don't have a consistent definition of socialism, and just apply it willy-nilly according to what you think makes you look good.

Which is funny because you can find Fox News doing the same thing arguing that Venezuela is super capitalist and not at all socialist before their economy crashed after the price of oil dropped, then afterwards they argue that Venezuela was the most socialist place ever and that's why their economy failed.

My definition has not changed. Again you stated you didn't even know what the definition of socialism was.

When in reality we both know you are a liar. We both know you have posted your desire and love of socialism a time or two or more on this very forum. Oops did I just spoil your surprise.

And since you are a socialist who needs Venezuela to be a capitalists failure because it serves as the trump card example of a rich capitalist country turned socialist turned just another failed country where the people die due to socialism.

Hugo was a South American Socialist Dictator who killed the richest country in South America with Socialism.
 
want more....the net is full of them....I won't even go into Ivanka...nor the pee tapes


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Jeffrey Epstein's indictment most probably has shaken up many of his wealthy acquaintances over the years, including Donald Trump, whose Labor Secretary Alex Acosta did his level best to shield Epstein from being prosecuted at all.. Acosta and his department at the time did everything it could to let an accused ******* get off scot-free.

The Ties That Bind Jeffrey Epstein, William Barr & Donald ...
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May 04, 2019 · Epstein made new and high profile friends as his wealth grew. Among those friends was now president, Donald Trump. Trump said of Epstein in 2003, “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

The ‘sex slave’ scandal that exposed ******* billionaire ...
Oct 09, 2016 · Epstein was also a regular visitor to Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago, and the two were friends. According to the Daily Mail, Trump was a frequent dinner guest at Epstein’s home, which was often ...

Trump called Epstein a ‘terrific guy’ who enjoyed ‘younger ...
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Jul 08, 2019 · Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine that year for a story headlined “Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery.” “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes...

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you won't get any of this on your fox channel
 
want more....the net is full of them....I won't even go into Ivanka...nor the pee tapes


Images of Trump and Jeffrey Epstein
bing.com/images



Jeffrey Epstein reportedly bragged he introduced Trump to ...
...
President Donald Trump has sought to distance himself from wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein, who is now facing charges of sex trafficking of minors and conspiracy, playing down their past relationship.. Epstein, however, attempted to highlight his connections to the new commander-in-chief — and the first lady. After Trump was elected president, Epstein started claiming that he was the one …


Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘first victim’ met Donald Trump at 14 ...
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Jan 18, 2020 · A woman who says she was Jeffrey Epstein’s first known victim claims in a new lawsuit that the multimillionaire sex offender introduced her to Donald Trump when she was 14, saying “This is a

Trump Bragged About Jeffrey Epstein's Penchant For Young ...
Jeffrey Epstein's indictment most probably has shaken up many of his wealthy acquaintances over the years, including Donald Trump, whose Labor Secretary Alex Acosta did his level best to shield Epstein from being prosecuted at all.. Acosta and his department at the time did everything it could to let an accused ******* get off scot-free.

The Ties That Bind Jeffrey Epstein, William Barr & Donald ...
...
May 04, 2019 · Epstein made new and high profile friends as his wealth grew. Among those friends was now president, Donald Trump. Trump said of Epstein in 2003, “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

The ‘sex slave’ scandal that exposed ******* billionaire ...
Oct 09, 2016 · Epstein was also a regular visitor to Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago, and the two were friends. According to the Daily Mail, Trump was a frequent dinner guest at Epstein’s home, which was often ...

Trump called Epstein a ‘terrific guy’ who enjoyed ‘younger ...
...
Jul 08, 2019 · Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine that year for a story headlined “Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery.” “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes...

Donald Trump Is Accused Of ******* A 13-Year-Old. Why Haven ...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-*******
...
Nov 02, 2016 · The accuser says Trump raped her repeatedly at parties thrown by since-convicted ******* Jeffrey Epstein, who was widely known to throw wild parties with young women and girls. Epstein was convicted in 2008 of soliciting an ******* girl for ******* and served a small portion of an 18-year sentence.




How Is Jeffrey Epstein Connected to President Donald Trump?
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  • The Plea Deal
  • Epstein and Trump's Friendship
  • After Epstein's Death
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you won't get any of this on your fox channel
Propaganda

This is fake
 
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