Politics, Politics, Politics

So are Americans who supported Brexit, & tweeted support on twitter/engaged in trolling, considered to be ‘interfering’ in their elections as well?

since I know the "news" you get is not really the news...more slanted opinions...let me give you some of the news
used facebook and twitter to influence the minds of those not so well equipped to think rationally

after all what else could pump the minds of a few so full of ******* they throw out all rationality and are willing to support trump/p u t I n?


Mueller just hammered Facebook and Twitter

Maybe it wasn’t the Trump campaign that colluded with Russian operatives in the 2016 U.S. presidential election after all. Maybe it was Facebook (FB) and Twitter (TWTR), instead.
Special counsel Robert Mueller filed an indictment on February 16 charging 13 Russians with crimes relating to interference in the 2016 elections. The indictment describes a well-organized Russian scheme that began in 2014 and “had a strategic goal to sow discord in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election.” The Russians’ plan was “to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump,” the indictment states.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/mueller-just-hammered-facebook-twitter-225450649.html


after all...there has to be some logic as to why these trumpies just gave up any sense of sanity......it is understandable with the GOP they are willing to trash the country for personal wealth....but for the trumpies.....it is just plain lack of common sense and misguided beliefs from a snake oil sales man
 
How to disrupt an election: Fake IDs, fraud and Facebook
Desmond Butler, Stephen Braun and Ryan Nakashima, Associated

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A year before Donald Trump announced his presidential candidacy, two Russian operatives landed in the United States to lay groundwork for an intelligence operation targeting the legitimacy of the 2016 election.
What began as a Cold War-like attack by an old adversary would mix old-fashioned political agitation with 21st century social media tools that ultimately roiled the election and shook America's political landscape.
The indictment of 13 Russians by special counsel Robert Mueller Friday revealed that the now well-documented Russian social media campaign also relied on extensive intelligence work by operatives on U.S. soil. It also began earlier than commonly believed, first aiming to "sow discord" ahead of the 2016 election and later to boost Trump's candidacy.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-operatives-launched-attack-us-election-2014-000709461.html
 
follow the money



Who Is Richard Pinedo, Who Pleaded Guilty in Mueller's Trump-Russia Probe?
Max Kutner,Newsweek

A California man has pleaded guilty to identity fraud as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russian interference in U.S. elections.
Richard Pinedo, of Santa Paula, ran an online service called Auction Essistance, through which he bought and sold bank account numbers that would help users circumvent security measures of digital payment companies. Pinedo transferred, possessed and used the identities of other people in connection with unlawful activity, according to a statement of the offense. He pleaded guilty on February 12, according to court documents.
Pinedo faces up to 15 years in prison and a $250,000 fine, according to the plea agreement. It said he has no criminal history and that he agrees to cooperate with Mueller's office.

The Auction Essistance website said it was down for regularly scheduled maintenance on Friday afternoon. But a cached version of the site said it helps “people who have found out that eBay has suspended their accounts or have sided with buyers for ridiculous claims that these buyers have filed.”
The website said it offers “services that will enable you to get back onto eBay or Amazon ranging from pre-made eBay & Paypal accounts or verification tools.” It said it guarantees the accounts “are legitimate and not hacked or stolen like most other sellers offer.”

A LinkedIn page that appears to belong to Pinedo said he worked for Auction Essistance between November 2012 and February 2014 as a customer marketing manager. (Court documents state he worked for Auction Essistance from 2014 at least through December 2017.) According to the LinkedIn page, he most recently worked for a digital marketing company called SEO Distortion, which lists the same phone number as Auction Essistance. Under a section labeled "Who We Are," the website for SEO Distortion lists Pinedo as the only employee, with the title of CEO.

The SEO Distortion website appears to contain testimonials from people who do not exist. The site features a photo of a woman it names as Georgina Nichollas and says is an executive director at Rogerson Law Firm. But no such law firm appears to exist, and the image matches one on the LinkedIn page for a woman in the Netherlands with a different name. Another testimonial says it is from David Brandford, apparently an admissions director at West Virginia Tech. But a representative for the school said it had never hired anyone with the last name Brandford. A third testimonial says it is by Lisa Reynolds of "Quality Dallas Realty Service.” But no one by that name has a real estate license in Texas, and the image matches a sample picture on a website for a Dallas company that does headshots.
One of the testimonial images matches the first result for the Google search "dummy image for testimonial."
Pinedo, 28, also said he got an associate's degree in computer science from Ventura College in 2009. The LinkedIn page indicates he worked various jobs between 2009 and 2012, including as a sales associate for LA Fitness, a gym.

Earlier on Friday, Mueller's office announced an indictment against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities affiliated with the Internet Research Agency, a troll farm. The indictment alleged that the defendants meddled in the 2016 election.
 
WhaaaaaT????????? even someone from Fox?

Shepard Smith: Mueller Indictments Prove Russian Probe Is 'Opposite Of A Hoax'
Mary Papenfuss,HuffPost

Fox News host Shepard Smith said Friday that special counsel Robert Mueller’s string of indictments against Russian operatives for meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election is a stark demonstration that the probe into Kremlin election interference is “the opposite of a hoax.”
Smith’s declaration was a pointed dig at Donald Trump’s often-repeated complaint that the Mueller probe is a “hoax,” a witch hunt, or “fake news” concocted by the media.
“If there was ever any question — even a single question — there is no more. Russia attacked the United States of America,” Smith said on “Shepard Smith Reporting.” He called it a “coordinated, government-sponsored campaign to undermine American democracy.”
The Russians “infiltrated our system, manipulated us on behalf of Vladimir Putin, and they did it online and in person, on our soil,” Smith added.
 
Once Trump gets "dumped" .... his followers are going to be walking around aimlessly like zombies ...

....."Trump" ...."Trump, what to do?" ....."Trump, guide us!"
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I read through the indictment, all of it. It is rather lengthy. Outside of the money laundering, and the identity theft, can anyone that keeps posting nonsensical memes explain to me what the other major areas of concern would be? I certainly don't want foreign involvement in US elections, but this wouldn't be the first time, and won't be the last time it happens. Again, if you've read through the indictment in its entirety, please outline what I should be concerned about. But you'd first need to read through the indictment. Monday, while you are at work, essentially stealing your employer's time, would probably be a good time for a lot of you to actually read it.
 
Outside of the money laundering, and the identity theft, can anyone that keeps posting nonsensical memes explain to me what the other major areas of concern would be?

I assume you are talking to me.....???


Robert Mueller's Russia Indictments Seem to Lay the Groundwork for Something Bigger
Jay Willis,GQ

On Friday, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein unsealed the indictments of 13 members of Russia's Internet Research Agency, laying out in painstaking detail the methods used to interfere in the 2016 election. Using an army of carefully-developed social media personas, the defendants worked to suppress minority turnout, shilled for Jill Stein, and even sent money to real-life Americans for a "cage large enough to hold an actress depicting Clinton in a prison uniform"—all from an office building on the other side of the planet. Given that Trump's margin of victory in key swing states proved smaller than the number of Stein votes, these efforts to sow chaos were probably more successful than the perpetrators could have imagined.

On their face, the indictments have little to say about the possibility of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, a fact that has already led to much rejoicing in MAGAland. Rosenstein's comments at the press conference, however, do not foreclose the possibility that this could change. "There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity," he said, and no assertion that the activities described altered the election's result. The indictment also takes care to note that the defendants conspired with "persons known and unknown to the grand jury." Together, these facts may very well mean that no one in the campaign broke the law. But Mueller's investigation isn't over, said Rosenstein, which means that more names—maybe even big ones—could be implicated in the future.

In any event, the indictments are a firm rebuke to those who believe that the Russia story is a hoax, a conspiracy theory to which Trump was reportedly clinging as recently as a few days ago. Collusion or no collusion, his own Department of Justice—remember, Rosenstein is a Trump appointee—is now on the record on the subject. The president cannot continue to refuse to treat Russia as a threat and/or to take meaningful action to protect the integrity of future elections without eliciting a lot of uncomfortable questions.
Mueller's decision to reveal he real-life consequences of the Kremlin's conduct could also provide valuable context for what might come next. Recall, for example, that one excuse for Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting with Russians promising "dirt" on Hillary Clinton was that nothing (allegedly) came of the meeting—a legal version of no harm, no foul. If, however—and this is merely hypothetical!—if any campaign associates did cooperate in Russia's meddling, establishing the success of their counterparts at undermining American democracy will make it much harder for the president to keep insisting that we have nothing to worry about.
 
Police: 11-Year-Old Student Arrested for Writing Note Threatening to ******* Classmates at Florida School

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ning-to-*******-classmates-at-florida-school/
 
Five key takeaways from the Russian indictments

New indictments of 13 Russians who allegedly meddled in the 2016 election set the political world abuzz on Friday.
The charges were first posted on the Department of Justice's (DOJ) website but were fleshed out by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein at a hastily convened news conference.

What are the key political ramifications from the new charges?
Fire and fury from Trump?
President Trump is hypersensitive to any suggestion that his victory over Hillary Clinton in 2016 was illegitimate. These new indictments are sure to get under his skin for precisely that reason.
The indictments lay out in granular detail the nature of the alleged Russian effort to aid Trump. According to prosecutors, that effort involved significant manpower and money. There were more than 80 employees assigned to one part of the project by July 2016, according to court documents, and a broader effort codenamed "Project Lakhta" was being bankrolled at a rate of $1.25 million per month as of September 2016.

The court documents note that the overall objective was to "sow discord in the U.S. political system." But, they add, "Defendants' operations included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaging Hillary Clinton."
Whatever the legal ramifications, this is a significant political problem for Trump. By its very nature, it casts a cloud over his win.
Democrats seized on that issue, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).
"As desperately as President Trump insists that the Special Counsel investigation is a 'hoax'," Pelosi said, "these latest indictments build on multiple guilty pleas and indictments of several Trump campaign officials, demonstrating the gravity of the Trump-Russia scandal."
The president began tweeting about the matter within hours of the indictment, noting that prosecutors say the Russian effort began in 2014, before his presidential campaign began.

"No collusion!," he also insisted - a message reiterated by a written statement from White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
But with the indictments dominating political news, expect more explosive Trump comments, soon.
No proof - here - of collusion
Rosenstein emphasized during his news conference that none of the information amounted to a smoking gun proving allegations of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
"There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election," he said.
These are important points, and should serve to put a brake on some of the wilder speculation about what the indictments mean.
However, Rosenstein's words are not the sweeping exonerations that Trump and his allies suggest either.

Clearly, Friday's indictments are part of a much broader picture of Russia-related activities under investigation.
That picture includes the hacking of the Democratic National Committee; the hacking of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta's emails; a June 2016 meeting with a Russian lawyer at Trump Tower which Donald Trump Jr. had been led to believe would deliver dirt on Clinton; and the guilty pleas of Michael Flynn, the president's former national security advisor, and George Papadopoulos, a former campaign advisor.
Also, the fact that an allegation is not made in one set of indictments self-evidently does not preclude it from being made in others in the future.
A detailed picture
The specifics offered by the indictments are themselves fascinating.
If the allegations are true, Russians sought to thwart the candidacies of Trump's Republican rivals such as Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas) and Marco Rubio (Fla.).

They sought to suppress support among black voters for Hillary Clinton, creating fake accounts on social platforms including Facebook and Instagram with names like "Blacktivist" and "Woke Blacks" - and suggesting that she was not strong enough on issues germane to the African-American community.
They alleged that Clinton had been engaged in voter fraud during the Iowa caucuses.
They also promoted rallies - including, apparently, one for Clinton with the working title "Support Hillary. Save American Muslims" - that seem to have been aimed at stoking discord.
Even details that have no direct political import make the indictments read like a spy thriller.
In a September 2017 email, an alleged Russian conspirator writes to a family member: "We had a slight crisis here at work: the FBI busted our activity (not a joke). So, I got preoccupied with covering tracks together with the colleagues."
Rosenstein makes his stand

Rosenstein has been buffeted by frequent news reports that Trump is frustrated with him, and might consider seeking his ouster. He faced additional criticism following the publication of a memo written by staff of Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) earlier this month.
The deputy attorney general's decision to hold a news conference to announce the indictments was not especially out of the ordinary. But, in the current context, it had the effect of tying him more closely to Mueller and to the probe.
Rosenstein is clearly trying to walk a line. His emphasis that the Friday indictments contained neither proof of collusion nor proof that Russia's effects affected the election's outcome might help to placate Trump to some degree.
Still, this was a symbolic show of independence amid a partisan storm.
The Nunes memo didn't work
The Nunes memo released on Feb. 2 had been anticipated as a possible game-changer, at least among many of the president's supporters,

Soon after it was first released, however, it became clear that its central allegations, of FBI and Department of Justice misdeeds, lacked the power to fundamentally undercut Mueller's probe.
Prominent Republicans, including Speaker Paul Ryan (Wis.) and Rep. Trey Gowdy (S.C.) made that point clear.
The new indictment, however, makes the idea of the Russian investigation as a hoax largely unsustainable.
In a statement on Friday afternoon, Nunes made no mention of the famous memo. Instead he highlighted previous statements he had made about Russia's "worldwide influence operations." He also blamed the Obama administration for what he said was a failure to take appropriate action.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-indictments/ar-BBJf30I?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp
 
explain to me what the other major areas of concern would be?

read BBBulls impeachment thread....he takes it into great detail....but mainly it just opens the door for more to come....Mueller has been pretty tight lipped about everything until he is ready

I am betting the money laundering is what will bring him down...but maybe more...
 
I will agree with Clapper......the money will bring out more.....

Former intelligence chief predicts 'other shoes to drop' in Mueller case

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper predicted Friday there will be "other shoes to drop" in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 US election. "I think there are other shoes to drop here, notably the finances," Clapper said on "Anderson Cooper 360." Although he admitted that he did not know for sure, Clapper said that following the indictments announced in the probe Friday, more information about President Donald Trump's financial assets could potentially come out from the investigation. "I think that's going to be another profound thing that's going to come out about this. What were the financial relationships between

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/ca7853d9-8b7c-333a-8f91-2e6c0e7d2e21/former-intelligence-chief.html
 
and naturally from the cartoon network


Fox News’ first response to Russian election meddling indictments: blame Obama
thinkprogress.org

Amid news that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has indicted 13 Russian nationals on charges of conspiracy related to meddling in the 2016 presidential election, Fox News returned to a favorite strategy: blame Barack Obama. Former House Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), now a Fox News contributor, was asked about the indictments on Friday afternoon. He immediately downplayed the notion that this interference may have had any impact on Donald Trump’s victory in the incredibly close 2016 election and suggested that it was the fault of the previous president. “I think a lot of people were very concerned, even at a small level, that this was happening. [Current House Oversight Chairman] Devin ...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/9f813b36-eb30-3ac3-8b50-ede216a1c9fa/ss_fox-news’-first-response-to.html



Former House Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), .....naturally....he got the boot because he refused to investigate Trumps making money while in office......voters and etc got pissed at him ...put the heat on him....and now he works for Fox...how ironic
 
yeah I know just full of all kinds of ******* today
just seeing things get closer makes me a happy man!


but question is what will the republicans do?
now that it has been discovered that a lot of them received money from Russia during their campaign ( I posted that earlier this week)
trump already has done nothing on it even when congress di approve more sanctions
for you disbelievers that has to say something

dream come true......seeing him escorted out of the white house in handcuffs!
 
can anyone that keeps posting nonsensical memes explain to me what the other major areas of concern would be?

there are several things in there kind of....fishy.....
but seeing how Mueller is working....who knows
the thing that keeps pissing me off is the statements that it in no way effected the election...how can they say that?....who knows how many "weak minds" believed all that false propaganda?

and it said that no trump campaign people meat with the Russians knowingly

that does not cover the trump tower meeting and more and more is coming out on that...and I think that is where manafort will really fry..although they already have him on a bunch now...add to it some Russian biz people are suing him...which just helps Muellers case...bad timing for Manafort

Manafort and Papadopolis are the two keys to frying trump....manafort so far is keeping mum....and Papadopolis IS TALKING!
 
Wait until the proof if given that the Russians gave the NRA money to be given to the Republicans running for election & re-election in 2012 & 2016. That'll be a nice one - the Russian Republican Party ... kind of rhymes.
 
Boy, that will be a shocker. To everyone, except those that pay attention. You see, we had this little Ukraine thingy previously. And other little thingys in previous elections. But hey, it will be a glorious day, if it comes, for the uninformed.
 
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