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The Obamacare mandate is misunderstood

The Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate for everyone to have coverage is frequently described as unpopular, but it also suffers from being misunderstood, making it more difficult to objectively evaluate its utility.

On the one hand, its negatives are easy to see. People must show they have coverage, otherwise they are subject to a penalty of $695 or 2.5% of an individual’s annual income, whichever is higher. If coverage is the carrot, this is the stick, and it’s not surprise that libertarians aren’t the only ones that don’t like being ****** to buy insurance.

But the flip side of the mandate is far more arcane, though not as much as some might think.

The logistical benefits of the mandate

The mandate has likely kept Obamacare afloat with insurers, which would not otherwise participate. While there is unpopularity surrounding the mandate — a YouGov poll had it at a 66% disapproval in February — Obamacare’s subsidized coverage had broad support with an 80% approval and its guaranteed issue (covering those with pre-existing conditions) had 75% approval.

The strength of support for Obamacare and specifically for allowing those with pre-existing conditions to obtain coverage sharply conflicts with the mandate’s unpopularity. The two are intertwined, something that polling shows is widely misunderstood.

A pool of insured people will only succeed if it’s made up of a diverse mix of people: those who need to draw from the plan and people who don’t. The ones who do not need coverage may not receive money, but they receive the peace of mind a safety net gives.


For myriad reasons, younger, healthier people may wish to opt out of coverage, and without a mandate they may simply do this, a move that would make the insurance pool heavier with those with pre-existing conditions who do not wish to opt out. Economically, this makes things untenable for insurers, which would have to increase premiums. The mandate, as it were, makes it possible to keep those with pre-existing conditions insured without runaway premiums.

Conservative philosophy popularized the mandate, and it may destroy it

The mandate has an interesting history, making its debut in American politics in 1989 from the conservative side via the right-leaning think tank The Heritage Foundation. Writing about the personal responsibility of self-sufficiency, a principle often at the center of some conservative arguments, the Heritage Foundation’s Stuart M. Butler, Ph.D. made the high-level conservative case.

“A mandate on individuals recognizes [an] implicit contract,” he wrote. “Society does feel a moral obligation to ensure that its citizens do not suffer from the unavailability of health care. But on the other hand, each household has the obligation, to the extent it is able, to avoid placing demands on society by protecting itself.”

Butler equated having a mandate for health insurance to having a mandate for car liability insurance, seeing a way to square coverage for all without resorting to ideas that some conservatives might consider to be “nanny state” territory.

The goals outlined in the 1989 paper are familiar: “guaranteed universal access to affordable health care,” a reeling in of “inflationary pressures” on the health care industry, and protecting health care innovation. Today, however, both the Foundation and Butler opposes Obamacare’s mandate, having shifted over time.

The mandate may go via tax reform, not by health care reform

Considering the mandate now is starkly different from considering a mandate almost three decades ago, especially since changes to the law of the land may have trickling consequences for millions as the Congressional Budget Office outlined over and over during the repeated efforts to repeal Obamacare, which ultimately failed due to the lack of a viable alternative.

But perhaps the most unusual thing about the current debate over the mandate’s future is that it is not coming via a health care reform process but instead in the context of a tax bill.

With the CBO estimating that a mandate repeal would add $338 billion over the next 10 years in government revenue, the mandate is on the chopping block to help pay for tax cuts. The mandate’s effects on the health care system of the United States have taken a back seat.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/obamacare-mandate-misunderstood-191518440.html
 
The GOP just want a political victory just to brag to their base about "doing something "extraordinary in Washington. This Tax reform bill will fail most likely in the Senate because of the Obama Mandate being eliminated. Remember , you break it, you buy it.
 
....This Tax reform bill will fail most likely in the Senate because of the Obama Mandate being eliminated. Remember , you break it, you buy it.
Don't count on that Chung ... the Republicans are use to working around the issues. Plus they control Washington right now. How do you think Trump got elected to begin with? This party now operates on "win at all costs" ... usually at the expense of the American tax payers, too. So, I don't think the threat of "you break it you buy it" raises an eyebrow with them.
....Now they're holding the "middle class tax cut" as hostage if the Obama mandate is not approved for elimination in their tax cut proposal ... saying this will be $300 billion going straight to the middleclass ... gif_YellowBall-laughing6.gif and their die-hard base keeps being sucker punched with these kind of promises ... over, and over, and over. Talk about "dense" ... they keep falling for it. gif_Yellowball-JerkingOff.gif
 
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Democrats lashed out at Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., Thursday after Los Angeles TV and radio host Leeann Tweeden accused him of kissing and groping her during a USO tour in 2006, with at least two female lawmakers pledging to return campaign funds raised by Franken's political action committee.

Leaders of both parties in the Senate called for an ethics investigation of Franken, a request echoed by the senator himself, Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...turn-on-franken-over-groping-allegations.html
 
Leaders of both parties in the Senate called for an ethics investigation of Franken, a request echoed by the senator himself
Yeah, "ethics investigations" has become a playground activity for Congress ... doing one of those and they think that justifies not doing constructive things for the tax payers.
 
just little things the right is doing to fuck the country

U.S. regulator votes to loosen media ownership rules
Reuters Reuters

The U.S. Federal Communications Commission on Thursday voted to remove key roadblocks to increased consolidation among media companies, potentially unleashing new deals among TV, radio and newspaper owners as they seek to better compete with online media.

The Republican-led FCC voted 3-2 to eliminate the 42-year-old ban on cross-ownership of a newspaper and TV station in a major market. It also voted to make it easier for media companies to buy additional TV stations in the same market, and for local stations to jointly sell advertising time and for companies to buy additional radio stations in some markets.

Big media companies including Tegna Inc, CBS Corp and Nexstar Media Group Inc have cited the expected rule change as motivation for considering expansion opportunities.

"This is really about helping large media companies grow even bigger," said Democratic FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn, adding that Republicans were "more intent on granting the industry’s holiday wish list early rather than looking out for the public interest."
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/fcc-votes-loosen-media-ownership-190606980.html
 
Let's make America Great Again?

NBC analysis: GOP tax plan could save Trump and his family more than $1 billion

Trump and his family could stand to save more than $1 billion under a tax proposal passed by House Republicans on Thursday, according to an analysis commissioned by NBC News.

Most of the savings Trump and his heirs would see would come from the measure's repeal of the estate tax - the tax levied on property transferred to beneficiaries after an individual dies.

The analysis was based on Trump's estimated net worth and his 2005 tax return, the only such return made public thus far. It found that the president could save more than $20 million himself, while his heirs could save $1.1 billion.

Based on the analysis of Trump's 2005 return, the president would also save a considerable amount of money under the House bill's repeal of the Alternative Minimum Tax.

Under HR-1, the alternative minimum tax would be repealed. Line 45 of page two of Form 1040 reports an alternative minimum tax liability of $31,261,179," Maury Cartine, a tax expert at Marcum LLP, wrote in the analysis.

"Assuming the alternative minimum tax was repealed under HR-1, the taxpayers would not have paid $31,261,179 of alternative minimum tax," he wrote.

The analysis also notes, however, that because the capital gains tax is higher now than it was in 2005 and because of a tax on investment income and fewer itemized deductions, Trump's savings would have been about $22.6 million.

Trump has refused to release his personal income tax returns, meaning that more up-to-date information is not available. The 2005 return was leaked to MSNBC earlier this year.

According to the analysis commissioned by NBC News, the biggest savings for Trump and his heirs would come from the repeal of the estate tax, which currently levies a 40 percent tax on estates worth more than $5.5 million for individuals and $11 million for couples.

Bloomberg's Billionaire Index estimates the president's net worth at about $2.86 billion, and the House GOP's tax proposal calls for the estate tax to be repealed by 2024. If Trump and his wife are still alive at that time, they would save about $400 million for every $1 billion in net assets, according to Cartine. That would add up to about $1.1 billion in savings by 2024.

Trump has repeatedly insisted that the tax reform plan would not benefit him and that he would, in fact, take a financial hit from it.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...lar1-billion/ar-BBF3Bmr?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp
 
Looks like Wisc is trying to compete with Kansas to see who can raise the dumbest *******
and from what I can see in Kansas it's working

Here's what happened to teachers after Wisconsin gutted its unions

Britta Pigorsch was a sophomore in a high school outside of Madison, Wisconsin, when Act 10 passed the state legislature in 2011. She already knew she wanted to be a teacher. But the legislation, which gutted collective bargaining rights for public sector unions and slashed their benefits, galvanized her further. "It angered me," said Pigorsch. "I thought: Well, I could either not go into education, or I could go into education and be a voice that stands up for it." Now 22 years old and soon to receive her teaching certificate from the University of Wisconsin, Pigorsch faces a vastly changed landscape. Along with diminished leverage with school boards, teachers have seen lower pay, reduced pension ...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/3f12369d-9b71-3a99-85ec-f689cfc438cc/ss_here's-what-happened-to.html

back when I worked for the air line a few years ago we 3 teachers working there...said it was more money and the only way they could pay off their loans...here in this state a clerck working at QT makes more money than a teacher...that's why they push home schooling here so much...a fool raising an idiot!
 
Derided by critics, trickle-down economics gets another try
Paul Wiseman, AP Economics Writer,Associated Press


Does money roll downhill?

In their drive to cut taxes, President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans are betting it does.

Behind their legislation is a theory long popular among conservatives: Slash taxes for corporations and rich people, who will then hire, invest and profit — and cause money to trickle into the pockets of ordinary Americans. The White House says the plan's corporate tax cut alone would eventually raise average household incomes by $4,000 a year.

The tax plan's "trickle-down" approach was popularized in the 1980s during the Reagan administration, though it dates back at least to a 1932 wisecrack by Will Rogers. And history shows it has a spotty record of delivering on its promises.

The Republicans' latest version of the approach edged closer to the finish line Thursday when the House passed its form of the bill; the Senate is working on its own. Republicans hope to send final legislation to Trump by Christmas, though it's unclear whether they can succeed by then.

Among the key planks in their legislation: Shrink the corporate tax rate to 20 percent from 35 percent. End or ease the inheritance tax on the wealthiest estates. Cut taxes on business partnerships. Offer a temporary tax cut on corporate profits held abroad. Repeal the alternative minimum tax on very high earners. And reduce personal income tax rates for many.

The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center has found that the House tax plan would deliver an average tax cut of $360 for middle-income taxpayers in 2027. A far more generous bounty would go to the highest-earning 1 percent: An average tax cut of $62,000. For the top 0.1 percent, the gain would average $321,000.

And the income tax cuts for individuals would expire within the next decade. By contrast, Republican lawmakers say the tax cuts for corporations need to be permanent. The tax cuts would also add roughly $1.5 trillion to the federal debt.

Republicans argue that the corporate tax cuts, in particular, would unleash a boom that would speed annual economic growth to at least 3 percent consistently from the so-so 2 percent performance of recent years.

The thinking is that reducing corporate taxes would raise companies' after-tax profits, thereby encouraging them to invest more. Investments in machines and technology would make employees more productive and empower them to command higher pay. The White House's own study estimates that the corporate tax cut would eventually swell average U.S. household income by $4,000 a year.

"It will increase real wages, and it will increase them substantially," says Arthur Laffer, an economist who advised President Ronald Reagan and now runs a consultancy. "It also will increase the number who get jobs."

Laffer occupies a position of prominence in the history of trickle-down economics. In 1974, he famously sketched a diagram on a restaurant napkin to illustrate his belief that the government could cut taxes and, contrary to economic assumptions, end up producing more revenue, not less. Economic growth would accelerate, and income would slosh downhill from corporations and the wealthy to ordinary Americans.

Over the years, the concept — also known as supply-side economics — has frequently drawn ridicule.

"Voodoo economics" was the derisive term George H.W. Bush applied to it in his failed 1980 bid for the Republican presidential nomination against Ronald Reagan, a supply-side enthusiast.

The liberal economist John Kenneth Galbraith in 1982 likened the trickle-down idea to horse manure: "If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows."

Will Rogers may deserve credit for coining the term in ridiculing President Herbert Hoover's efforts to combat the Great Depression.

"The money was all appropriated for the top in the hopes that it would trickle down to the needy," Rogers wrote in his syndicated column in 1932. In fact, Rogers argued, money tends to trickle up — from the hands of the poor into the hands of the rich.

In the view of Carl Davis, research director at the left-leaning Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, the track record for supply-side economics "is not particularly inspiring."

In 1981, in the midst of a deep recession, President Reagan pushed through an aggressive tax cut. The economy did rebound strongly over the next few years. But economists have long given credit mainly to the Federal Reserve, which aggressively slashed interest rates. And the tax cuts increased federal deficits, eventually forsing Reagan and Congress to reverse course and raise taxes.

Bruce Bartlett, a former aide to tax-cut advocate Rep. Jack Kemp, says the '81 tax cut made sense: The top individual tax rate was 70 percent — far above the current 39.6 percent — and the economy, unlike the relatively healthy one today, had endured a long era of stagnation.

But Bartlett, an official in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations, has lost faith in tax cuts. In 1986, he notes, the United States slashed the corporate tax rate from 46 percent to 34 percent. Yet wages fell. Likewise, President George W. Bush's tax cuts in 2001 and 2003 produced one of the weakest economic expansions in American history: The Bush tax cuts were still in place when the economy sank into the Great Recession of 2007-2009.

And Kansas has just finished a failed experiment in tax cutting. After Gov. Sam Brownback pushed through big tax cuts in 2012 and 2013, the payoff was underwhelming at best: Tax collections fell shy of expectations, triggering a budget crisis. In June, Kansas passed a big tax increase (over Brownback's veto), leading Moody's Investors Services to upgrade the outlook for the state's credit rating.

Owen Zidar, an economist at the University of Chicago's outlook for Booth School of Business, says his own research suggests that tax cuts are more effective when they target lower-income taxpayers, who are likelier than the rich to spend a tax-cut windfall.

In addition, Bartlett and other critics say, now is an especially inauspicious time for sharp tax cuts. The economy is enjoying the third-longest economic expansion on record and doesn't need much help. Unemployment, at 4.1 percent, is extremely low, and many employers are already struggling to fill job openings. In a healthy economy, sharp tax cuts can also raise the risk of high inflation.

What's more, corporations are recording healthy profits, enjoying low borrowing rates and sitting on a record $2.3 trillion in cash. If they want to make investments, most already can.

At a meeting of The Wall Street Journal's CEO Council this week, the moderator asked participating executives whether their companies would increase investment if the Republican tax plan became law. Few raised their hands — to the surprise and seeming consternation of Gary Cohn, Trump's top economic adviser, who was in attendance.

"Why aren't the other hands up?" Cohn asked.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/derided-critics-trickle-down-economics-161414376.html
 
The chairman of the Florida Democratic party resigned on Friday after six women came forward to accuse him of creating a hostile work environment by making sexually-charged comments.

“When my personal situation becomes distracting to our core mission of electing Democrats and making Florida better, it is time for me to step aside,” said Stephen Bittel, a Miami Beach businessman with close ties to Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

“I have to apologize for all who have felt uncomfortable during my tenure at the Democratic party,” Bittel continued, adding that he will work to elect a successor.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/17/d...g-resigns-over-sexual-harassment-allegations/
 
Donations to the Clinton Foundation have plummeted since Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 presidential election, according to the organization’s latest tax filings.
The latest tax filings released by the foundation a week ago showed that contributions dropped 42 percent in 2016 from $108 million to $63 million—right around the time Clinton lost last year’s presidential election, according to the New York Post.

Donations tanked by 37 percent in 2015 after the organization tried to fend off allegations that Clinton had used the foundation to engage in pay-to-play schemes with foreign governments.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...s-plummeted-following-hillarys-election-loss/
 
Reagan adviser: Tax cuts set stage for an all-out attack on welfare state
The Seattle Times


President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans want Americans to think that their proposed tax legislation is all about increasing economic growth. That’s their stated goal. But the stealth goal of GOP tax cuts is to start down the path toward gutting the New Deal and the Great Society — and if tax cuts pass, they might get away with it. There’s no evidence that a tax cut now would spur growth. Yet leaders such as House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, still maintain the fantasy that their brew of income and corporate tax cuts will mean “faster economic growth” and “better jobs being created.” But with near-full employment and a roaring stock market, you don’t cut taxes. When past presidents ...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/01f376...04b8e1aa/ss_reagan-adviser:-tax-cuts-set.html
 
Mmmmm doesn't Trump have a private jet.....what a coincidence.....

Private-Jet Owners Are Poised to Get Tax Break Under Senate GOP Plan

Senate Republicans say their tax bill will bring big tax cuts for middle-class families and businesses. If you own a private jet, you’ll also get a break. The revised bill that emerged from the Senate Finance Committee this week scraps excise taxes on the use of private aircraft. The exemption would apply to expenses including storage, maintenance and hiring a crew. The provision is expected to cost the federal government less than $50 million over a decade, according to the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation. The change would be a boon to scores of large businesses that use corporate jets to fly employees around the world for business and personal travel. People who lease aircraft for more ...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/5520e0d7-3b51-386e-a801-56de5c964712/private-jet-owners-are-poised.html
 
House Approves Tax Cuts That Would Overwhelmingly Benefit the Rich
democracynow.org

On Capitol Hill, Republican lawmakers are moving closer to pass a sweeping $1.5 trillion tax cut that largely benefits the wealthy and the nation’s largest corporations. The House passed its version of the bill on Thursday by a vote of 227 to 205. Thirteen Republicans joined Democrats in opposing the legislation. The massive tax cut was approved without the House holding a single hearing. Hours later, the Senate Finance Committee approved its own version of the bill, but it is unclear if the Republicans have enough votes for it to pass the full Senate. One of the biggest beneficiaries of the tax bill may be President Donald Trump’s own family. An NBC News analysis based on his 2005 tax return found Trump would personally save $20 million under the House bill, while his heirs could save $1.1 billion. Meanwhile, the Senate plan will actually result in higher taxes for workers who earn less than $75,000 by 2027, according to a new analysis by the Congress Joint Committee on Taxation. ...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/ce8d5477-1d40-3197-97bd-789314ca6523/house-approves-tax-cuts-that.html
 
"subhub174014, post: 1586954, member: 60485"]House Approves Tax Cuts That Would Overwhelmingly Benefit the Rich
democracynow.org

On Capitol Hill, Republican lawmakers are moving closer to pass a sweeping $1.5 trillion tax cut that largely benefits the wealthy and the nation’s largest corporations. The House passed its version of the bill on Thursday by a vote of 227 to 205. Thirteen Republicans joined Democrats in opposing the legislation. The massive tax cut was approved without the House holding a single hearing. Hours later, the Senate Finance Committee approved its own version of the bill, but it is unclear if the Republicans have enough votes for it to pass the full Senate. One of the biggest beneficiaries of the tax bill may be President Donald Trump’s own family. An NBC News analysis based on his 2005 tax return found Trump would personally save $20 million under the House bill, while his heirs could save $1.1 billion. Meanwhile, the Senate plan will actually result in higher taxes for workers who earn less than $75,000 by 2027, according to a new analysis by the Congress Joint Committee on Taxation. ...
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your quote feature is making your posts invisible
 
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